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that guy should wear a one direction t-shirt not pantera :facepalm:
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To be fair, it wasn't always a normal thing in the US either. It's easy to forget that what we see now is the result of a process. So maybe today this is the way many Russians react to gays, but we can't say for sure that that won't have changed in a few years.
Plus, just because laws have changed doesn't mean that there is no gay discrimination in the US, you could probably make the same video there and get similar results if you waited long enough. You will almost always find someone who doesn't agree with you, doesn't matter where you go. ;)
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Think of it this way, some people find it disgusting to see homos making out or walking like that. I am one of those people. Imagine a person eating horse shit and drinking donkey semen. Oh yeah maybe he loves it and doesn't like classic soda. So fucking what? It doesn't make that less horrible to see. If these people want tolerance, then they should tolarate when they are called queers and laughed at. Society is fucked up. First, boy likes boy. Then boy wants to be a female. Then what? people are losing enough humanity just from technological advancements, we don't need more of this de-humanization :facepalm:

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well im fine with faggots till they keep their shit away from me/public. everyone has right to do whatever he wants at his home, fuck other guy, put glass bottles into ass etc. but keep that shit behind your house door lol.

btw whats signnature price? i mean that crap under post
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Well, homosexuality behaviour has been found in tons of other animals, so it's not something that's just made up by humans. And yeah it makes sense that you can find it disgusting. It would be like a straight guy watching gay porn, ofc you'd be grossed out, but I just don't see why you would go out of your way to insult people and spit on them in public. You'll notice that societies with more acceptance are generally happier people.

As for boys wanting to be female, well unfortunately you can't really know if other animals experience that or not because of the lack of communication, so it might actually be something unique to humans. I'd guess it's not though.
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There are enough animals / living creatures in the world for anything to be possible, including animals, I don't think that automatically justifies it.

Is it wrong if a 40-year old looking perv makes out with a 5 year old girl in public, even if she consents? That's not even sexual intercourse. But yet, it would be disgusting.

As for the spitting and insulting... That's the least you would expect from a country with high military culture.

Saying societies with more acceptance are generally happier seems kind of vague and trivial. Maybe killing people makes me happy.

And, for males trying to be females... I have only one advice... Maybe someone was born short but feels tall in his soul and mentality... Only one thing to do, suck it up.


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Marco wrote:There are enough animals / living creatures in the world for anything to be possible, including animals, I don't think that automatically justifies it.

Is it wrong if a 40-year old looking perv makes out with a 5 year old girl in public, even if she consents? That's not even sexual intercourse. But yet, it would be disgusting.

As for the spitting and insulting... That's the least you would expect from a country with high military culture.

Saying societies with more acceptance are generally happier seems kind of vague and trivial. Maybe killing people makes me happy.

And, for males trying to be females... I have only one advice... Maybe someone was born short but feels tall in his soul and mentality... Only one thing to do, suck it up.


You're all over the place, but basically, the first bolded part is straight up illegal because the girl is underage and cannot legally consent. I think you're trying to think of something that's disgusting, but you sort of reached in the wrong direction. A good analogy would be people that wear nothing but a thong and walk around outside (you see guys doing that in gay pride parades, and it's legitimately disgusting. Then again i think neither gender should be doing that shit).

The underlined part I agree with. High military cultures tend to have more bullies. Compare bullying in the US or Russia to what happens in Finland (where bullying is almost non existent) and then look at the respective cultures and how they treat their military (hint hint, both glorify it).

Happiness is subjective and many more advanced societies are happier because they have higher standards of living, no conflict, but also just so happen to be more accepting of LGBT people (and to an extent other cultures). I don't think one can say being more accepting of other cultures/sexual orientations will make one happier (correlation/causation issue here).

FInally: "And, for males trying to be females... I have only one advice... Maybe someone was born short but feels tall in his soul and mentality... Only one thing to do, suck it up."
You're young and last I remember you dropped out of university, but if you ever go back I highly recommend taking some psychology courses (if you have time). They are quite fun and very educational, even if you have no intention on working in psych related fields (though argentina does have the most therapists per capita).
That said, your opinion is quite ignorant. People being born and feeling they are trapped in the wrong gender's body is not the same as a short person feeling like they are "tall in their soul". I've never heard of the latter. The former however, is well documented. It's hypothesized aberrant hormonal exposure when children are in their mother's womb leads to gender dysphoria. That is real. People aren't pretending they feel like they're the opposite sex for shits and giggles (what advantage do they gain from this? Being discriminated against? Nobody would choose that).
Yes transgender is "weird", but mostly because it's so rare and we have so little exposure to it.
The same way people are repulsed by 2 men making out in public (and i'll admit i'm weirded out by this as well). Not only are societies not exposed to gay relationships, we're exposed ONLY to straight relationships. Notice nobody ever complains about a guy and girl making out (or even openly having sex in the middle of some concert). It's a matter of exposure. I guarantee if i sat someone down for a few hours and made them watch gay porn, they WOULD be desensitized to it.

Also, fun fact (i learned this in psych). Straight guys or women watching guy-on-guy porn were always mildly aroused (they actually did studies on this). Just the mere act of watching sex (gender is irrelevant) gets people horny.
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Asteroth wrote:You're all over the place, but basically, the first bolded part is straight up illegal because the girl is underage and cannot legally consent. I think you're trying to think of something that's disgusting, but you sort of reached in the wrong direction. A good analogy would be people that wear nothing but a thong and walk around outside (you see guys doing that in gay pride parades, and it's legitimately disgusting. Then again i think neither gender should be doing that shit).


Nah, illegal my ass, I'm talking about ethics here supposing that's even a thing. What is 'legally consent' supposed to be? Here in Argentina, if you're less than 18 you don't go to jail because well you are a kid and don't know what you're doing, and that's how bad things are here. Also I was suggesting they are only making out so again is that even illegal? They say love doesn't discriminate age. Maybe age of 5 was a bit of an exaggeration, but make it 11 or 12, when they clearly know what they're doing and are giving their consent.

Asteroth wrote:That said, your opinion is quite ignorant. People being born and feeling they are trapped in the wrong gender's body is not the same as a short person feeling like they are "tall in their soul". I've never heard of the latter. The former however, is well documented. It's hypothesized aberrant hormonal exposure when children are in their mother's womb leads to gender dysphoria. That is real. People aren't pretending they feel like they're the opposite sex for shits and giggles (what advantage do they gain from this? Being discriminated against? Nobody would choose that).
Yes transgender is "weird", but mostly because it's so rare and we have so little exposure to it.
The same way people are repulsed by 2 men making out in public (and i'll admit i'm weirded out by this as well). Not only are societies not exposed to gay relationships, we're exposed ONLY to straight relationships. Notice nobody ever complains about a guy and girl making out (or even openly having sex in the middle of some concert). It's a matter of exposure. I guarantee if i sat someone down for a few hours and made them watch gay porn, they WOULD be desensitized to it.


Okay, I won't blame you or anyone for calling my opinion ignorant or closeminded. And don't get me wrong, I'm not all that against this as I make myself sound, in fact I think it's okay if gay people want to share their pertenences (I am completely against gay adoption though). As for the tall vs short example, that was probably not my best one but, don't forget we have very different cultures. If you saw transvestites here in Argentina, you would probabably not think too different from me. There are "men" here that inject themselves car oil and some really fucked up shit to get cheap breast or curver-ass or body in general. These completely disgusting people are big STD spreaders. They are completely fucked up from bottom to top and I wouldn't even be surprised if some of these "men" would become trans just to work as prostitutes (trans are rather popular in prostitution here, and poverty is big - go figure). These people are completely baked off that it's hard to tell whether they are even concious or not.

That aside (why am I disgusted by trans), I think you misunderstood where I was going. I never said these people were pretending or that the feeling wasn't real. What I was trying to say is that if you feel like a girl in a boy's buddy, then bad luck. Trying to change your appearance won't ever change your gender. Does that mean they have to live unhappily forever? Dunno, life isn't fair for everyone.
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