Carnage or Parasite (Melee Necro)

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Eltrius
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Hi guys, back with new character, i want your opinion, as i remember the last version of MedianXL the only build with melee necro is with Parasite, but i saw some videos of necro with a base building with carnage (the first skill in melee tree), i want to know the good and bad points in a carnage build or a parasite build, i really like parasite but i don't know if it get nerf or something, i'm waiting for your opinion

PD: Is it worth pestilence with melee build? ...
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Eltrius wrote:i remember the last version of MedianXL the only build with melee necro is with Parasite
you remember wrong . there was a massacre(now carnage) build there since 2010 , constantly updated . search the guides section
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So Carnage or Parasite?
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they are different builds , both as good . pick one and play it
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Dreamhunter wrote:So Carnage or Parasite?


as of me, im using parasite coz of the more range it gives and pestilence tho
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Actually, since Carnage only gains attack rating with levels, it's a 1-hard-point skill and can be combined with Parasite in the same build. I'm playing a solo melee necro in SP, already got 20 charms by playing with maxed Parasite for mobs and Carnage for single targets. I guess you could also make a build purely based on Carnage, probably spending the free points from Parasite in Dragonfire Oil (which I'm playing with 1 point) and relying on procs like crucify for life leech if you can get it (from rathma set for example, which btw I still can't find the damn boots to complete it), but I don't really think you would be better off in many scenarios with that setup.
The other build that was possible with massacre which was based exclusively on procs and spell dmg (with maxed shadows - now skeletal flayers) I don't really know if still works because carnage is not a faster way to trigger hits like massacre was.
Finally, about pestilence, I used it maxed all throughout the early and mid game and highly recommend it. Recently, as I got +max skills from charms and also a nice Hive Oskill from a unique amulet to replace it, I decided to respec out of it.
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here's a link for the Carnage melee necro (no.21) viewtopic.php?f=40&t=491#link21
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ChuckNoRis wrote:here's a link for the Carnage melee necro (no.21) viewtopic.php?f=40&t=491#link21


Was getting ready to build this.

Doesn't carnage multi-hit, a lot? If so wouldn't the flat damage from Dragonfire Oil be really good. Or elemental damage in general? Plus, CB?
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I am not sure you have red the skillplan and gearing before asking that question
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ChuckNoRis wrote:I am not sure you have red the skillplan and gearing before asking that question


I did.

No mention of its mutli-hitting nature. In the skill plan you have dragonfire oil used but at the endgame you respect into no points into it. So it is only usable before endgame? I have DFT currently maxed at it seems to carry some good tri-elemental damage with it. Is it not enough to consider?

It also says to max pestilence. Is the synergy bonus why? Does it really add more damage than DFT + dragonfire oil would?