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ReTLoM wrote:Barbarian takes a long time ???? you can beat every uber with t6 uniques from gift box no crafts and stuff. You can go summoner and farm super ez on day 1 tran dunc and fauz ...


oh please... just because Aerial could kill astro with t6 gear doesn't mean everybody can do it. And you forgot one small detail: summoner is never going to be faster than uhc paladin. Faster = better.
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ReTLoM wrote:Barbarian takes a long time ???? you can beat every uber with t6 uniques from gift box no crafts and stuff. You can go summoner and farm super ez on day 1 tran dunc and fauz ...

Comapring to paladin - yes, too long.
Of course you can do all ubery using pretty common equipment, but this does not change the fact that the paladin goes so much easier.
That's my opinion. You can even publish me a swordazon build, which with the same sword does the whole game, but the easiest way is to play with a paladin.
And the barbarian ... you know, before he gets it will be a long time. Paladin got hatred and the terror ran. He must wait a bit on destro sometimes.
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thunderman wrote:
ReTLoM wrote:Barbarian takes a long time ???? you can beat every uber with t6 uniques from gift box no crafts and stuff. You can go summoner and farm super ez on day 1 tran dunc and fauz ...


oh please... just because Aerial could kill astro with t6 gear doesn't mean everybody can do it. And you forgot one small detail: summoner is never going to be faster than uhc paladin. Faster = better.

Sure. I completely agree. Paladin is incomparably easier than a barbarian, and as I wrote - it is strong from the beginning. I still do not see the weaknesses of this character, and believe me - I am looking for them passionately.
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ReTLoM wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dt5Nf7ct5c&feature=youtu.be&t=12



glorious. you deserve a free uldy charm for that one
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Barb can get all charms. Pala weakling has to trade for his.
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Pheasant wrote:Barb can get all charms. Pala weakling has to trade for his.


all characters can get all charms
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shnurr214 wrote:
Pheasant wrote:Barb can get all charms. Pala weakling has to trade for his.


all characters can get all charms


Aye, but to some it is much easier. Although it is easy to accept the variety of builds and the ease or difficulty of certain uber challanges depending on them, it is difficult to understand why a particular class generally makes it easier than others.
I can not understand why a paladin game is so easy.
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darkstorm <333 xD
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Marco wrote:darkstorm <333 xD

Love you too :*
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Stealthmaster wrote:Imo, one of the strongest was a Pouncesin from 1F9b version (or just before 1Z9). Probably the only cons of this build was a very expensive weapon (required extreme patience in crafting a Naginata (lots of shrines thus lots of time spent in Fauztinville). 1F9b was a version when some charms had +1 to random regular character skill, BLaz boss with almost the same health as Assur, powerful Zod runes, powerful Hammertime on kill proc etc. etc.

For the build take a look at this: http://www.medianxl.com/h12-pouncesin. You can still google for 1F9 version and give it a try :)


You motivated me^^ and as i realized, that its not that likely to get such a required Nagi, even if perma-shrine-crafting 2-3 hours per day for a few weeks, and the only tool i found for this didnt work, i decided to invest a few hours into AHK :D

With 0 programming skills it was a challenge to get this working, its not perfect - can be improved ofc - but it works. And burns 1 shrine in around 3 seconds and autodetects "to pounce". Can be altered for any word/screenshot fragment and item. You have to prepare your stash for it ofc, so it can go through pages full of shrines automaticly... The only thing you have to do is to run it, sit back/doing something else, and if you hear a sound, to take a quick look at the Nagi, rolled with pounce, if you like it or not, then continue the transmutor. If anyone is interessted, i can make a video... Its just useful for crafting very rare/expensive items, if the requirements are that high. Or for any perfectionist ofc^^