@suchbalance - bowazon sigma guide when?

[JetJet]

all this talk about how bowzon is okay but the player can't utilize her because they can't position or lack defense items is bullshit, bowzon is complete garbage and anyone who tries to say otherwise is just talking out of their ass, there's a reason why less than who knows 10% bowzons went over lvl 120 last patch, nobody plays her. for a glass cannon type of char she barely even has enough dmg to do any 105 ubers .

[mtuanhl]

My bowzon in sigma ss19 https://youtu.be/GqVbtvYOZRs

Can you please tell me something about your skilling and equip?
I just started a bowzon and thinking about some things like Frenzy yes/no ..... Barrage or Wyrmshot .... which reward .. etc.
and i want to try to play her untwinked ... if possible

Update

[mtuanhl]

Wyrmshot is the best, barrage for fun

[makhail24]

My bowzon in sigma ss19 https://youtu.be/GqVbtvYOZRs
Gear

Windforce

Windforce
Long War Bow (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (154 - 182) to (173 - 205)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 1950
Item Level: 120
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.13 per Dexterity)%
Knockback Enemies If You Have at Least 1000 Strength
10% Chance to cast level 10 Claw Tornado on Striking
30% Movement Speed
+3.75 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
10% Mana stolen per Hit
+(120 to 160)% Enhanced Damage
50% Slower Stamina Drain
Requirements +200%
Socketed (6)

Helepolis

Helepolis
Spangenhelm (Sacred)
Defense: (2894 - 3192) to (3206 - 3537)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 675
Item Level: 105
+38 to Maximum Damage
+(14 to 24) to Guard Tower
10% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
(21 to 30)% to Strength
Physical Resist 20%
(31 to 50)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (4)

Rogue Foresight

Rogue Foresight
Heavy Gloves (Sacred)
Defense: 492 to 522
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 525
Item Level: 120
+1 to All Skills
5% Deadly Strike
-10% to Strength
20% to Dexterity
Physical Resist 5%
Socketed (4)

Black Void

Black Void
Heavy Belt (Sacred)
Defense: (3060 - 3442) to (3304 - 3717)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 625
Item Level: 120
20% Attack Speed
Adds 10-15 Damage
(10 to 15)% Life stolen per Hit
Slow Target 10%
+(140 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
10% to Strength
10% to Dexterity
Target Takes Additional Damage of (25 to 50)
30% Magic Find
Socketed (2)

Akarat's Trek

Akarat's Trek
Light Plated Boots (Sacred)
Defense: (1960 - 2352) to (2170 - 2604)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 625
Item Level: 120
2% Chance to cast level 30 Hammertime on Melee Attack
2% Chance to cast level 30 Thunder Wave on Melee Attack
2% Chance to cast level 30 Thunder Hammer Nova on Melee Attack
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(15 to 20) to Charged Strike
Weapon Physical Damage +(60 to 90)%
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
10% to All Attributes
+10 to Light Radius
Socketed (4)

Rebel (Xis)

Bag of Tricks

Bag of Tricks
Arrow Quiver
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
2% Chance to cast level 1 Knife Throw on Striking
2% Chance to cast level 1 Arrow on Striking
2% Chance to cast level 1 Javelin on Striking
Adds 1-63 Fire Damage
Adds 1-63 Lightning Damage
Adds 1-63 Cold Damage
-5% to Enemy Elemental Resistances

Giant's Knuckle

Giant's Knuckle
Ring
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
20% Attack Speed
Adds 10-15 Damage
(5 to 10)% Life stolen per Hit
5% Deadly Strike
+25 Life Regenerated per Second
Physical Resist 5%

x2

Dyers Eve

Dyers Eve
Amulet
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
5% Chance to cast level 5 Time Strike on Striking
+2 to All Skills
Adds 15-20 Damage
5% Life stolen per Hit
Elemental Resists +10%
Physical Resist (1 to 10)%

Skillplan
Max: barrage; dragonlore;paragon; wild and free;war spirit; defensive harmony

really with that full buffed gear it can barely survive in fautz..really bowazon must be given love not class bias'ed anyway...what gems did you put in your weapon? ruby or skeleton?
im using rapid wyrm shot bow,,asgardrea,,bag of tricks,,giants knuckle item i am farming duncraig..is it the best place to farm sacred uniques?,,..i really suggest for farming fautz you should switch to spirit of vengece and quiver change coz the dps of spirit of vengece is really insane+jewels of %spell damage and energy factor and dex%

[mtuanhl]

6x Perfect Rainbow Stones on Weapon
Mo ed and life per hit or DS
I have 16k hp ; ~70% life per hit ; 50% PR >>> tanky in Fautz

[ELBOWgrease0000]

imho bowzon was a breeze in Sigma up through 125's.
Definitely need to use certain movement/positioning on the uber bosses though (Kabraxis), but theyre all trophy-farmable w/Bowzon once u get your Tactics sorted out.
Full Disclosure: @Tzorun Tzin that bastard took me about 50 tries and im never going back in there with a BowZ, esp w/lvl timer now.
The rest 125+ are also doable and repeatable, just not all of them a 'sure thing' everytime (for me, anyways).

there are beaucoup specialist bows out there, too, which might greatly help vs. specific bosses.
(Could maybe try

Signal Fire

Signal Fire
Composite Bow (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (202 - 233) to (315 - 348)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 470
Item Level: 120
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.13 per Dexterity)%
Sun Strike Shoots 1 Projectile
Sun Strike: +18% Bonus Fire Damage per Base Level in the Bow Tree
50% Attack Speed
Adds 50-150 Damage
-(25 to 40)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
+50 to Sun Strike
+300 Life Regenerated per Second
Maximum Fire Resist +(3 to 5)%
Cannot Be Frozen
Socketed (6)

against Astrogha, for instance).
And Firedance gloves

Lorekeeper

Lorekeeper
Light Gauntlets (Sacred)
Defense: (1018 - 1179) to (1159 - 1342)
Required Level: 80
Required Strength: 300
Item Level: 120
+3 to All Skills
20% Combat Speeds
+(5 to 10) to Firedance
+(90 to 120)% Enhanced Defense
Regenerate Mana +(40 to 60)%
Requirements -50%
Socketed (4)

help a lot in tough areas obvsly, if you need the DPS boost.
So theres ways to supplement the 'Cannon' part....

But yah, i do agree that at the very top end, Bowzons DPS is just a bit too low- maybe 10-15%, even when using some of the new gimmick bows.
Maybe they could make the innate Bloodlust skill's +15%EWD to scale up w/level or something if ur not a bloodfury...

Anywhoo-- whats ur skillplan look like, stats, and primary skill use?
how r u speccing Wyrmshot?
whats ur initial magic damage source for dragonlore to scale off of?

[Marco]

bowzon is complete garbage and anyone who tries to say otherwise is just talking out of their ass, there's a reason why less than who knows 10% bowzons went over lvl 120 last patch, nobody plays her. for a glass cannon type of char she barely even has enough dmg to do any 105 ubers .

for the luls








Who's talking out of their ass?

[lazyknob]

So.. many a time in various games, people talk about a build being bad, then someone posts said bad build clearing end game content often in decked out gear. I'm not sure if the masses are invalidated, but does it answer the sentiment?

I'm barely 2 weeks into median xl, so I'm still very new. What's the perspective of balance around these parts?
Is a class considered effective after it's twinked, fully geared and able to clear content?
or
Effective enough at all levels for solo self found games and clearing content on par as its level?
or
Perhaps if a player with more than 4000 hours in, is able to clear content then everything is ok even if everyone else can't?

[Marco]

So.. many a time in various games, people talk about a build being bad, then someone posts said bad build clearing end game content often in decked out gear. I'm not sure if the masses are invalidated, but does it answer the sentiment?

Actually there's currently two topics going on about bowa, I've posted a text reply in the other topic here. There's some comments/thoughts on the build as a whole, including weaknesses, just to be clear, I'm not trying to prove bowzon is excellent or anything, just that its not bad at all as a lot of people claim.

I didn't have decked-out gear. I spent 20 TG on the bow to try rapid wyrm, this bow stops being relevant at 125 where you can get a craft to do the job better. You can even see from the char looks that I was using TU4 quilted armor. So yes, it certainly works SSF.

[lazyknob]

Thanks for the reply, I actually started out a bowazon right after reading the 2 threads in question. Much to my chagrin most of the recommended gear from the old guide is obsolete because of the change in item stats!