Why do we still have gold penalty on death.

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that's exactly the issue, if you have 1000 gold in your stash you lose only a fraction of that, but even if you have A SHITTON of gold it only takes a few deaths to cut it down to a pitiful sum. this means hoarding gold is useless, and comes back to the problem the OP mentions, i.e. having to interrupt whatever you are doing to scavenge gold which breaks the flow of the game.

dying is an integral part of the MXL experience so you don't want to make it too annoying
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Aquiring of one rune from K3K and one balanced knife from Malah to be able resurrect merc or buy few potions breaks the flow of the game so much and is annoying for you? Imo its minimum effort for what you get in return.
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Dont open bottle yet my friend, im done with that topic as people clearly want median to be 3 clicks from the boss without effort of aquiring gold if they fail to survive on way, like auto gold pick up and map reveal so far wasnt enough of time saver.
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it's annoying because it takes no effort, it's just a waste of time and yes, it breaks the flow

just let me farm some iotss to hoard gold and take it away from me gradually as I keep dying, penalty is still there but now it actually makes sense

and lose the condescending tone, it does nothing to further your discourse and just makes you sound like some elitist gitgudder :roll:
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Unda wrote:[...]map reveal so far wasnt enough of time saver.


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But seriously. Map reveal was only implemented to give every player (especially the new ones) the same conditions. Maphack still works and is faster than the ingame map reveal. You can watch any median stream to see what I'm talking about.

And concerning Gold pick up: Srsly.. This is just a quality of life change. Every new game nowadays has this kind of thing. Why shouldn't MXL get it as well? Picking up gold isn't satisfying in the slightest, especially in Iotss, where you can easily break you lmb thanks to constantly clicking on the gold to pick it up.
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Gekko64 wrote:it's annoying because it takes no effort, it's just a waste of time and yes, it breaks the flow

just let me farm some iotss to hoard gold and take it away from me gradually as I keep dying, penalty is still there but now it actually makes sense

and lose the condescending tone, it does nothing to further your discourse and just makes you sound like some elitist gitgudder :roll:


Dont be so touchy and apply this to all topics where you discover such tone just for get rid of inconsistency here, elitist git gudder because of that i dont see current gold penalty as any inconvenience?

HechtHeftig wrote:But seriously. Map reveal was only implemented to give every player (especially the new ones) the same conditions. Maphack still works and is faster than the ingame map reveal. You can watch any median stream to see what I'm talking about.

And concerning Gold pick up: Srsly.. This is just a quality of life change. Every new game nowadays has this kind of thing. Why shouldn't MXL get it as well? Picking up gold isn't satisfying in the slightest, especially in Iotss, where you can easily break you lmb thanks to constantly clicking on the gold to pick it up.


Was referring only to time saved when mentioned map reveal and auto gold picks, because argument here that aquiring gold takes that much time it breaks the flow of the game. So i dont get it why you try arguing with me defending those QoL changes when i didnt said anything against it.
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Just make mercs immortal. Best suggestion, right ? I mean the learning curve with autobody recovery already went down so fast ... Now remove gold/xp penalty for dying and topics like "tp scrolls are too expensive please fix" will show up.
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Anonymous: wrote:Just make mercs immortal. Best suggestion, right ? I mean the learning curve with autobody recovery already went down so fast ... Now remove gold/xp penalty for dying and topics like "tp scrolls are too expensive please fix" will show up.


First thing I thought was how much lolz it would be to see people hanging back as their mercs solo all ubers....
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Gekko64 wrote:that's exactly the issue, if you have 1000 gold in your stash you lose only a fraction of that, but even if you have A SHITTON of gold it only takes a few deaths to cut it down to a pitiful sum. this means hoarding gold is useless, and comes back to the problem the OP mentions, i.e. having to interrupt whatever you are doing to scavenge gold which breaks the flow of the game.

dying is an integral part of the MXL experience so you don't want to make it too annoying



Dying is indeed a core part of this. It cannot be helped unless we redo everything and start over. We have major limits and its insane to see what the devs have accomplished over the past decade. I would be happy and content with the penalty on banked gold being removed. That way i can actually save up gold for once instead of losing it everytime i do an uber im trying to push.

Unda im not going to ask you to leave because this is a public place, but please could you stop derailing my thread. I am trying to have a legitimate discussion and all you are doing is shitting all over the rest of the community and clogging my post.