Marco wrote:Frytas wrote:Goatmilk wrote:So much for being excited for bringing back the elemental sorc builds.. what a joke. UHM is going to be good for sure, but the announcement for the patch made it sound like there'd be super amazing changes for a lot of stuff that just didn't get, well anything that matters really. -_-
Not sure what's up with the downvotes, you're right. After the announcement, I expected a general buff to ele & poison trees but it ended up being a single target skill rework + pyroblast and tempest buffs. I guess you gotta agree with every change(or lack thereof) blindly no matter what.
How are you any different than these "blind agreers"? You're making the opposite argument with the same lack of information and playtesting.
It's a bit amusing when people say the announced sorc changes were "misleading" when word by word, what happened is exactly what was announced. I encourage everyone that thinks so to actually read the "Build Improvements" paragraph and not jump directly into the builds list to assume they are getting an amount of changes on par with new assassin build.
On the other hand seeing certain people demand early patch notes only to get super salty and cynical at some random "taken out of context" changes, makes me question if we should do early log releases at all. This endless battle between conspiracy theorists and believers is just getting too old and toxic. Now it seems that if you support a change you're dumb because the devs are just trying to fuck us over.
Even calling buffs "a nerf" seems to be the trend now and I've even heard (multiple times now) that this blatantly obvious buff patch is a "nerf patch".
Oh well. Keep it civil folks, is all I ask.
That Neutraldin Guy chiming in here. The overall patch notes are vastly buff related with some small nerfs to magic missile and maelstrom and oris herald being about all the nerfs we saw, oh and no 100% avoid cheese on ww druid.
Outside of that practically everything was a buff across the board. The elemental changes to sorc are a slight bit confusing in the patch notes but they made the skills which require skill to properly use the strongest single target available and some getting insane number bumps like the poison one with a 419% I believe it was.
But this sorta thing proves my view on needing a better format to talk about the changes and why I'm hosting a podcast along with Toxen, so things wont just be people bashing one thing cause it wasnt what they wanted. Instead there will be actual discussion and debates on the topic amongst the speakers with Q&A interaction with the chat afterwards.
This post isn't aimed at you Marco, more so using your point of view and message as a reasoning for my point of view on why forums/discord aren't a great tool for balance changes because people rant and rage over the smallest thing