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Hey, i want to play a nagisin this season. I only played barb and uhc so far, i dont have any clue about assassin. Can someone tell me which skills i should use and which item stats are most important?
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See this post from Marco, kinda explains why most people say Assassin is a squishy starter.
Marco wrote:That said, there's a few things that can make leveling assassin drastically different in terms of execution. In one hand, the constant upkeep and scaling of shadow refuge is very important and is often overlooked in many specs for being in a melee tree. Another topic is increasing HP early on either via RWs or jewels which is fundamental. If you miss one or even both of these things (you can assume a good majority reading tier list will) you are going to get absolutely demolished. This happens because hit-recovery animation will interrupt you anytime a blow deals 1/12 of your hp - no physical mitigation combined with a low health pool will get you quickly hitlocked to death.


For skills you'll want to max: Perfect Being, Shadow Refuge, Way of the Spider, Barrier Strike, and Laser Blade. Rest into probably Broadside. Once you get to 90, take all your Way of the Spider points and instead max Prismatic Cloak and max Broadside. Also put 1pt into Beacon. That should set you up for success.
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Yeah, other characters have various ways to mitigate phys damage (druid has acid fiends, barb has minions/passives, zon has passives, paladin has minions/blessed life). Assassin is pretty sad in that respect and her life growth is the worst in the game.

TU setup to not die horribly over and over again going into hell, because we need to prioritize not getting hitlocked:

Weapon: Any rare claw/naginata-type as you'll be using crucify from lvl 1 ->
Shark
Shark
Weapons
Except Necromancer Daggers, Assassin Claws

'Eld'
Runeword Level: 8
5% Chance to cast level 9 Bloodlust on Kill
+(7 to 9)% Bonus Damage to Bloodlust
20% Attack Speed
+5 to Maximum Damage
+0.125 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
1.5% Bonus to Attack Rating (Based on Character Level)
+(24 to 35)% Enhanced Damage
-1 to Mana
in a halberd/naginata base ->
Na-Krul's Spine
Na-Krul's Spine
Naginata (4)

Two-Hand Damage: (25 - 28) to (31 - 39)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 6
Required Dexterity: 58
Item Level: 10
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Area Effect Attack
20% Chance to cast level 4 Flamefront on Melee Attack
5% Chance to cast level 2 Bloodlust on Melee Attack
+6% Bonus Damage to Bloodlust
15% Attack Speed
Adds (8 to 10)-(13 to 20) Damage
+(35 to 40)% Enhanced Damage
Elemental Resists +(21 to 25)%
Physical Resist (3 to 5)%
Socketed (2)
Two-Hand Damage: (79 - 90) to (96 - 112)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 26
Required Dexterity: 95
Item Level: 36
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Area Effect Attack
30% Chance to cast level 12 Flamefront on Melee Attack
7% Chance to cast level 8 Bloodlust on Melee Attack
+12% Bonus Damage to Bloodlust
25% Attack Speed
Adds (13 to 15)-(28 to 35) Damage
+(81 to 103)% Enhanced Damage
Elemental Resists +(31 to 35)%
Physical Resist (9 to 11)%
Socketed (4)
Two-Hand Damage: (194 - 214) to (221 - 246)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 47
Required Dexterity: 192
Item Level: 51
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Area Effect Attack
40% Chance to cast level 20 Flamefront on Melee Attack
9% Chance to cast level 14 Bloodlust on Melee Attack
+18% Bonus Damage to Bloodlust
35% Attack Speed
Adds (18 to 20)-(43 to 50) Damage
+(126 to 149)% Enhanced Damage
Elemental Resists +(41 to 45)%
Physical Resist (15 to 17)%
Socketed (5)
Two-Hand Damage: (255 - 277) to (290 - 320)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 57
Required Dexterity: 382
Item Level: 85
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Area Effect Attack
45% Chance to cast level 24 Flamefront on Melee Attack
10% Chance to cast level 17 Bloodlust on Melee Attack
+24% Bonus Damage to Bloodlust
40% Attack Speed
Adds (21 to 23)-(51 to 60) Damage
+(149 to 171)% Enhanced Damage
Elemental Resists +(46 to 50)%
Physical Resist (18 to 20)%
Socketed (6)
I still feel this edges out the new TU just because of the inherent resistances.
Blackleach Blade
Blackleach Blade
Halberd (4)

Two-Hand Damage: (13 - 17) to (15 - 20)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 6
Required Dexterity: 46
Item Level: 10
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Area Effect Attack
+(1 to 2) to Assassin Skill Levels
+100 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(31 to 70)% Enhanced Damage
-(26 to 30)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Slow Target 10%
Maximum Life +(2 to 3)%
+(11 to 20) Life after each Kill
Socketed (2)
Two-Hand Damage: (46 - 59) to (56 - 72)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 26
Required Dexterity: 76
Item Level: 31
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Area Effect Attack
+(2 to 4) to Assassin Skill Levels
+250 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(71 to 120)% Enhanced Damage
-(31 to 35)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Slow Target 15%
Maximum Life +(3 to 4)%
+(21 to 40) Life after each Kill
Socketed (4)
Two-Hand Damage: (121 - 132) to (148 - 160)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 47
Required Dexterity: 153
Item Level: 51
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Area Effect Attack
+(4 to 6) to Assassin Skill Levels
+500 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(121 to 140)% Enhanced Damage
-(36 to 40)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Slow Target 20%
Maximum Life +(4 to 5)%
+(31 to 60) Life after each Kill
Socketed (5)
Two-Hand Damage: (159 - 184) to (197 - 229)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 57
Required Dexterity: 305
Item Level: 77
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Area Effect Attack
+(6 to 8) to Assassin Skill Levels
+1000 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(141 to 180)% Enhanced Damage
-(41 to 50)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Slow Target 25%
Maximum Life +(5 to 6)%
+(41 to 80) Life after each Kill
Socketed (6)
does have some pretty nutty synergy with Way of the Spider though. Give both a try.
Helm:
Lavadome
Lavadome
Helm (4)

Defense: (78 - 89) to (115 - 131)
Required Level: 4
Required Strength: 29
Item Level: 10
+(0 to 1) to All Skills
+(41 to 60)% Enhanced Defense
+15 to Vitality
(3 to 5)% to Vitality
+(81 to 120) to Life
Fire Resist +(11 to 30)%
Socketed (1)
Defense: (300 - 334) to (391 - 435)
Required Level: 22
Required Strength: 57
Item Level: 31
+1 to All Skills
+(71 to 90)% Enhanced Defense
+30 to Vitality
(6 to 10)% to Vitality
+(121 to 160) to Life
Fire Resist +(31 to 50)%
Socketed (3)
Defense: (753 - 825) to (970 - 1062)
Required Level: 39
Required Strength: 201
Item Level: 51
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
+(101 to 120)% Enhanced Defense
+45 to Vitality
(11 to 15)% to Vitality
+(161 to 200) to Life
Fire Resist +(51 to 70)%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1191 - 1290) to (1519 - 1645)
Required Level: 48
Required Strength: 402
Item Level: 77
+2 to All Skills
+(131 to 150)% Enhanced Defense
+60 to Vitality
(16 to 20)% to Vitality
+(201 to 240) to Life
Fire Resist +(71 to 90)%
Socketed (4)
. You need the extra life
Armor:
Werecat
Werecat
Breast Plate (4)

Defense: (203 - 224) to (379 - 422)
Required Level: 5
Required Strength: 30
Item Level: 10
5% Chance to cast level 1 Claw Tornado on Melee Attack
15% Attack Speed
4% Life stolen per Hit
+(24 to 40)% Enhanced Defense
+(41 to 50) Defense
+(11 to 20) to all Attributes
Physical Resist 3%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (622 - 681) to (1100 - 1207)
Required Level: 23
Required Strength: 60
Item Level: 36
6% Chance to cast level 7 Claw Tornado on Melee Attack
30% Attack Speed
6% Life stolen per Hit
+(58 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+(81 to 100) Defense
+(21 to 30) to all Attributes
Physical Resist 4%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1471 - 1589) to (2563 - 2777)
Required Level: 40
Required Strength: 210
Item Level: 51
7% Chance to cast level 13 Claw Tornado on Melee Attack
45% Attack Speed
8% Life stolen per Hit
+(92 to 109)% Enhanced Defense
+(131 to 150) Defense
+(31 to 40) to all Attributes
Physical Resist 5%
Socketed (5)
Defense: (2168 - 2330) to (3757 - 4046)
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 420
Item Level: 85
8% Chance to cast level 16 Claw Tornado on Melee Attack
60% Attack Speed
10% Life stolen per Hit
+(109 to 126)% Enhanced Defense
+(181 to 200) Defense
+(41 to 50) to all Attributes
Physical Resist 6%
Socketed (6)
--> Transition to
Dragonheart

Dragonheart
Body Armors

'OhmThulFal'
Runeword Level: 70
+2 to All Skills
30% Attack Speed
30% Cast Speed
30% Block Speed
45% Hit Recovery
+1.625% Enhanced Defense (Based on Character Level)
5% to Dexterity
+(550 to 650) to Life
Cold Resist +25%
ASAP, jewels should be Ber crafts with life/stats/ar/resists/fhr/ias, more of these mods the better, but at least get life and one other mod.
Belt:
Wormtongue
Wormtongue
Light Belt (4)

Defense: (53 - 58) to (71 - 78)
Required Level: 3
Required Strength: 26
Item Level: 1
(31 to 50)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 5-13 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(2 to 4)% Life stolen per Hit
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+(11 to 15) to Dexterity
Socketed (1)
Defense: (214 - 231) to (259 - 279)
Required Level: 21
Required Strength: 55
Item Level: 31
(71 to 90)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 19-50 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(8 to 10)% Life stolen per Hit
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+(21 to 25) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
Defense: (544 - 581) to (649 - 693)
Required Level: 38
Required Strength: 192
Item Level: 51
(111 to 130)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 75-150 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(14 to 16)% Life stolen per Hit
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+(31 to 35) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
Defense: (801 - 851) to (946 - 1006)
Required Level: 46
Required Strength: 384
Item Level: 77
(131 to 150)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 100-250 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(17 to 19)% Life stolen per Hit
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+(36 to 40) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
or an honorific belt with +stats/breakpoints built in
Gloves:
Toorc's Gift
Toorc's Gift
Chain Gloves (4)

Defense: (26 - 30) to (47 - 54)
Required Level: 5
Required Strength: 28
Item Level: 10
2% Chance to cast level 1 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
5% Attack Speed
Stun Attack
+(12 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(11 to 15)%
Socketed (1)
Defense: (155 - 172) to (211 - 234)
Required Level: 22
Required Strength: 57
Item Level: 31
3% Chance to cast level 2 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
15% Attack Speed
Adds (11 to 15)-(16 to 25) Cold Damage
Stun Attack
+(47 to 63)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(21 to 25)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (434 - 472) to (573 - 624)
Required Level: 40
Required Strength: 201
Item Level: 51
4% Chance to cast level 3 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
25% Attack Speed
Adds (36 to 45)-(46 to 63) Cold Damage
Stun Attack
+(81 to 97)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(31 to 35)%
Socketed (3)
Defense: (657 - 710) to (859 - 928)
Required Level: 48
Required Strength: 402
Item Level: 77
5% Chance to cast level 3 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
30% Attack Speed
Adds (81 to 100)-(101 to 125) Cold Damage
Stun Attack
+(98 to 114)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(36 to 40)%
Socketed (4)
stun is nice, some swear by
Featherclaw
though.
Boots:
Lionpaw
Lionpaw
Chain Boots (4)

Defense: (49 - 54) to (71 - 78)
Required Level: 4
Required Strength: 29
Item Level: 10
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+(7 to 10) to all Attributes
+(31 to 50) to Life
+(16 to 25) to Mana
(3 to 5)% Bonus to Defense
10% Gold Find
Socketed (1)
Defense: (203 - 218) to (267 - 288)
Required Level: 22
Required Strength: 58
Item Level: 31
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+(15 to 18) to all Attributes
+(71 to 90) to Life
+(36 to 45) to Mana
(9 to 11)% Bonus to Defense
15% Gold Find
Socketed (2)
Defense: (519 - 554) to (667 - 712)
Required Level: 39
Required Strength: 202
Item Level: 51
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+(23 to 26) to all Attributes
+(111 to 130) to Life
+(56 to 65) to Mana
(15 to 17)% Bonus to Defense
20% Gold Find
Socketed (3)
Defense: (759 - 807) to (974 - 1036)
Required Level: 48
Required Strength: 403
Item Level: 77
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+(31 to 35) to all Attributes
+(131 to 150) to Life
+(66 to 75) to Mana
(18 to 20)% Bonus to Defense
25% Gold Find
Socketed (4)

Jewelry: Prioritize +skills/+life/resists/breakpoints. No specific recommendations on uniques here because you can't guarantee one will roll up.

Sockets: Jah Runes/perfect skulls in weapon, topaz/bloodstone/onyx/turquoise in armor for resistances to at least 75%, rest should probably be jewels as noted above for the armor. For both, life and resists are priorities early on.
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Prepare to die a lot when getting early charms and good gear. And if you have an unstable/bad connection consider playing something else.
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It's not that bad. Shadow Refuge on left click, and Right click is Barrier Strike, Broadside, and Blink.
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In 1.4 nagisin has a huge bust of damage and this class has become playable again.
Several advices:
1) CRUCIFY - 1 point - this is the best dmg skill for a solo target
2) SHADOW REFUGE - enough for 50 resists. It the late game 1 point only needed.
3) LASERBLADE - max - defence boost and solid dmg up
4) HADES GATE - 4-5 points. You will need 3.8 seconds cooldown, so, when you under SHADOW REFUGE and BLOODBATH this will be zero cooldown.
This is our main farming skill
5) I prefer max WAY OF THE GRYPHON then BEACON - WAY OF THE GRYPHON gives you solid dmg boost in the current patch
6) BARRIER STRIKE - good skill for control enemies and for damage by targets who try to run away from you, but I do not see any reasons to spending more than 1 point in it.

Mainly I max these skills: LASERBLADE, WAY OF THE PHOENIX, PERFECT BEING, WAY OF THE GRYPHON, PRISMATIC CLOAK
Free points - WAY OF THE SPIDER

In the mid-game, your first goal will be to find a sacred naginata(any! you may make it rare with Charsi), then craft it by any available shrine for at least +8 for skills.
Then try to find another one and craft it with abandon/weird shrine for better stats. When you get a better result, swap it and continue craft on previous.
Then farm for nagiset
Athulua's Oracle
Athulua's Oracle
Amulet

Required Level: 60
Item Level: 60
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
40% Attack Speed
(150 to 250)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Cannot Be Frozen
- will be a good choice for an amulet.

This needs proof!!! and I will be extremely grateful for one)))
Your breakpoints for AS = 240 and for HR = 200
So, for the start of the mid-game two
Ring of Truth
Ring of Truth
Ring

Required Level: 20
Item Level: 20
25% Block Speed
15% Hit Recovery
(31 to 50)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Slows Attacker by (3 to 5)%
(11 to 15)% Bonus to Defense
+2 to Light Radius
will be a good choice, then swap it when you will have better

Gem crafting - all possible sockets( when you have enough resists) - Ber crafting - AS/FR for breakpoints - than any good what you are able to roll.
You will have poor HP pool, but a perfect lifestill and have no problem with mana too.

Mercs - I prefer act 5 - he is able to be a tank and provide us with a dmg boost, but feel free to test others.


Does someone understand how to use BACKSTAB now? It looks like absolutely useless in the current patch!
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What base item would you put Dragon Heart 'Kra' into ?

How much STR is too much?
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Maphyr wrote:What base item would you put Dragon Heart 'Kra' into ?


No less than light plate. I'd definetly say don't be afraid to even go for ancient armor because you get a lot of move speed already and you teleport around, the defense is helpful. One of my favorite things to do is make xis rebel with good rolled -req/hp/leech jewels - about 3xx req and it will allow you to use all the highest defense bases with 0 points invested in strength. Especially plated belt and greaves which give a lot of defense.
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Mirtazapin wrote:Hey, i want to play a nagisin this season. I only played barb and uhc so far, i dont have any clue about assassin. Can someone tell me which skills i should use and which item stats are most important?
tyvm

https://www.twitch.tv/nodoubt0322/videos
https://tsw.vn.cz/acc/char.php?name=naginata-girl

I've streamed solo self-found nagisin.
She is already lv134.
It may give you some idea about how to play nagisin.
It impressed me that nagisin can farm duncraig with t4 gears.
Of course, there are a lot of death.
But if you get used to the playing style, the situation becomes better and better.