Thinking of Doing Poison Throw Barb - Need Feed Back

I did Uldyssian and Spirit world with this build (could't do this with my UHC). Uldy took me about 45 minutes and of course charm +1 sk

. Reaching Spirit world was hard but Spirit of Giyua - easy.

Pajaqs wrote:I did Uldyssian and Spirit world with this build (could't do this with my UHC). Uldy took me about 45 minutes and of course charm +1 sk . Reaching Spirit world was hard but Spirit of Giyua - easy.

Did you go Dual wield or block?

Dual wield. Some dex to rise AR and rest in vit.
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Istaryu wrote:
Istaryu wrote:Poison throw barb is ridiculosly strong for bossing, with very, very cheap gear.

2x
Raptor

Raptor
Throwing Axes
'ZodSurLemEl'
Runeword Level: 85
(Barbarian Only)
3% Chance to cast level 60 Thunder Slam on Kill
-19% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(6 to 11) to Snake Stance (Barbarian Only)
+3 to all Attributes
5% to Vitality
Maximum Life +3%
Regenerate Mana +15%
+115 Life after each Kill
, or maybe 2x
Sterrenvogel
Sterrenvogel
Throwing Axe (4)
Required Level: 1
Required Strength: 15
Item Level: 1
Innate Lightning Damage: (13.0% of Strength)
+1 to Barbarian Skill Levels
10% Movement Speed
+100 to Attack Rating
Adds (6 to 7)-(9 to 10) Lightning Damage
-(6 to 8)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+100 Defense
Socketed (1)
Required Level: 17
Required Strength: 36
Item Level: 31
Innate Lightning Damage: (20.0% of Strength)
+1 to Barbarian Skill Levels
15% Movement Speed
+250 to Attack Rating
Adds (20 to 21)-(30 to 31) Lightning Damage
-(11 to 13)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+250 Defense
Socketed (2)
Required Level: 36
Required Strength: 81
Item Level: 51
Innate Lightning Damage: (26.0% of Strength)
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
20% Movement Speed
+500 to Attack Rating
Adds (58 to 60)-(90 to 93) Lightning Damage
-(16 to 18)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+500 Defense
Socketed (2)
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 167
Item Level: 77
Innate Lightning Damage: (33.0% of Strength)
+3 to Barbarian Skill Levels
25% Movement Speed
+1000 to Attack Rating
Adds (174 to 180)-(250 to 260) Lightning Damage
-(18 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+1000 Defense
Socketed (2)
is better for bossing
Slimedrool
Slimedrool
Jawbone Cap (4)
Defense: (34 - 37) to (50 - 55)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 3
Required Strength: 25
Item Level: 1
6% Chance to cast level 12 Harvest on Melee Attack
+1 to Barbarian Skill Levels
-(4 to 5)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+10 Life after each Kill
10% to All Vendor Prices
Socketed (1)
Defense: (157 - 170) to (200 - 215)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 20
Required Strength: 50
Item Level: 31
9% Chance to cast level 20 Harvest on Melee Attack
+1 to Barbarian Skill Levels
-(8 to 9)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+25 Life after each Kill
10% to All Vendor Prices
Socketed (2)
Defense: (411 - 439) to (503 - 537)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 37
Required Strength: 175
Item Level: 51
12% Chance to cast level 28 Harvest on Melee Attack
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
-(12 to 13)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+40 Life after each Kill
10% to All Vendor Prices
Socketed (3)
Defense: (605 - 643) to (736 - 783)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 350
Item Level: 77
15% Chance to cast level 36 Harvest on Melee Attack
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
-(14 to 15)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+60 Life after each Kill
10% to All Vendor Prices
Socketed (4)
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Glowskull
Glowskull
Crown (4)
Defense: (164 - 187) to (248 - 281)
Required Level: 10
Required Strength: 26 to 29
Item Level: 19
+(6 to 8)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
+(4 to 6)% to Poison Spell Damage
-3% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(41 to 60)% Enhanced Defense
Poison Resist +(16 to 25)%
(11 to 20)% Bonus to Defense
Requirements -(11 to 20)%
Socketed (1)
Defense: (561 - 620) to (785 - 868)
Required Level: 28
Required Strength: 50 to 56
Item Level: 36
+(11 to 13)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
+(10 to 12)% to Poison Spell Damage
-6% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(81 to 100)% Enhanced Defense
Poison Resist +(36 to 45)%
(21 to 30)% Bonus to Defense
Requirements -(16 to 25)%
Socketed (3)
Defense: (1272 - 1392) to (1754 - 1920)
Required Level: 46
Required Strength: 165 to 186
Item Level: 67
+(16 to 18)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
+(16 to 18)% to Poison Spell Damage
-9% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(101 to 120)% Enhanced Defense
Poison Resist +(56 to 65)%
(31 to 40)% Bonus to Defense
Requirements -(21 to 30)%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1911 - 2076) to (2614 - 2839)
Required Level: 54
Required Strength: 306 to 349
Item Level: 85
+(18 to 20)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
+(18 to 20)% to Poison Spell Damage
-12% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(121 to 140)% Enhanced Defense
Poison Resist +(66 to 75)%
(41 to 50)% Bonus to Defense
Requirements -(26 to 35)%
Socketed (4)

Queen of Glass
Queen of Glass
Ancient Armor (4)
Defense: (315 - 344) to (630 - 688)
Required Level: 11
Required Strength: 33 to 34
Item Level: 29
15% Cast Speed
-(6 to 8)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+(76 to 125) to Mana
Lightning Resist +(21 to 25)%
Cold Resist +(21 to 25)%
Requirements -(11 to 15)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (899 - 969) to (1718 - 1852)
Required Level: 30
Required Strength: 57 to 60
Item Level: 40
25% Cast Speed
-(11 to 13)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+(176 to 225) to Mana
Lightning Resist +(31 to 35)%
Cold Resist +(31 to 35)%
Requirements -(21 to 25)%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (2084 - 2224) to (3911 - 4173)
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 175 to 186
Item Level: 67
35% Cast Speed
-(16 to 18)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+(276 to 325) to Mana
Lightning Resist +(41 to 45)%
Cold Resist +(41 to 45)%
Requirements -(31 to 35)%
Socketed (5)
Defense: (3013 - 3202) to (5650 - 6005)
Required Level: 54
Required Strength: 323 to 344
Item Level: 85
40% Cast Speed
-(18 to 20)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+(326 to 375) to Mana
Lightning Resist +(46 to 50)%
Cold Resist +(46 to 50)%
Requirements -(36 to 40)%
Socketed (6)

Featherclaw

belt and boots just random shit shimmering crafts with nice poison pierce
whatever rings and amulets you can find with skills and/or poison pierce

socket no runes everywhere for easy pierce

max snake bite, gladiators dominance, snake stance, get 1 point in mountain king, 1 point stampede, immortal, and thundergod, put the rest of the points in ancients blood fore more skill lvls in snake bite and glad dominance. Use snake stance at all times, use stampede to clear, snake bite for bosses / poison absorbs

With this build, astro dies in 2 shots, belial in like 3-4, xazax in like 15, kabraxis in like 5, really insane.

Istaryu wrote:
Hexium wrote:
Rockshatter
Rockshatter
Balanced Axe (4)
Throw Damage: (14 - 16) to (27 - 39)
One-Hand Damage: (3 - 4) to (19 - 29)
Required Level: 6
Required Strength: 77
Item Level: 19
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
1% Chance to cast level 7 Blast Wave on Kill
+(11 to 20) to Maximum Damage
3% Life stolen per Hit
+(18 to 40)% Enhanced Damage
(2 to 3)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(19 to 30)%
+(16 to 25) to Strength
Socketed (2)
Throw Damage: (34 - 39) to (66 - 82)
One-Hand Damage: (11 - 13) to (47 - 59)
Required Level: 24
Required Strength: 115
Item Level: 36
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
2% Chance to cast level 19 Blast Wave on Kill
+(21 to 30) to Maximum Damage
6% Life stolen per Hit
+(64 to 86)% Enhanced Damage
(4 to 6)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(43 to 54)%
+(36 to 45) to Strength
Socketed (4)
Throw Damage: (100 - 111) to (156 - 179)
One-Hand Damage: (29 - 32) to (97 - 114)
Required Level: 43
Required Strength: 225
Item Level: 59
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
2% Chance to cast level 31 Blast Wave on Kill
+(31 to 40) to Maximum Damage
9% Life stolen per Hit
+(109 to 132)% Enhanced Damage
(7 to 9)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(67 to 78)%
+(56 to 65) to Strength
Socketed (5)
Throw Damage: (150 - 165) to (208 - 232)
One-Hand Damage: (37 - 40) to (126 - 143)
Required Level: 53
Required Strength: 445
Item Level: 85
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
3% Chance to cast level 37 Blast Wave on Kill
+(41 to 50) to Maximum Damage
12% Life stolen per Hit
+(132 to 154)% Enhanced Damage
(10 to 12)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(79 to 90)%
+(66 to 75) to Strength
Socketed (6)

Vilehand
Vilehand
Leather Gloves (4)
Defense: 6 to 8
Required Level: 1
Required Strength: 25
Item Level: 1
+(3 to 5)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
+(6 to 10)% to Poison Spell Damage
Poison Length Reduced by (31 to 35)%
Socketed (1)
Defense: 70 to 75
Required Level: 17
Required Strength: 50
Item Level: 31
+(0 to 1) to All Skills
+(6 to 8)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
+(11 to 15)% to Poison Spell Damage
Poison Length Reduced by (36 to 40)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: 176 to 184
Required Level: 34
Required Strength: 175
Item Level: 51
+1 to All Skills
+(8 to 10)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
+(16 to 20)% to Poison Spell Damage
Poison Length Reduced by (41 to 45)%
Socketed (3)
Defense: 243 to 258
Required Level: 43
Required Strength: 350
Item Level: 77
+1 to All Skills
+(11 to 13)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
+(21 to 25)% to Poison Spell Damage
Poison Length Reduced by (46 to 50)%
Socketed (4)

Destroying Angel
Destroying Angel
Small Shield (4)
Defense: (59 - 65) to (112 - 123)
Chance to Block: Class%
Required Level: 2
Required Strength: 27
Required Dexterity: 34
Item Level: 1
+50 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(6 to 10)% to Poison Spell Damage
-3% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Attacker Flees after Striking (4 to 5)%
+(12 to 23)% Enhanced Defense
Poison Resist +(21 to 25)%
Requirements +10%
Socketed (1)
Defense: (229 - 248) to (363 - 392)
Chance to Block: Class%
Required Level: 20
Required Strength: 60
Required Dexterity: 55
Item Level: 31
+150 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(16 to 20)% to Poison Spell Damage
-6% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Attacker Flees after Striking (8 to 9)%
+(35 to 46)% Enhanced Defense
Poison Resist +(31 to 35)%
Requirements +20%
Socketed (3)
Defense: (581 - 621) to (880 - 941)
Chance to Block: Class%
Required Level: 37
Required Strength: 227
Required Dexterity: 124
Item Level: 51
+300 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(26 to 30)% to Poison Spell Damage
-9% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Attacker Flees after Striking (12 to 15)%
+(58 to 69)% Enhanced Defense
Poison Resist +(41 to 45)%
Requirements +30%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (858 - 914) to (1287 - 1371)
Chance to Block: Class%
Required Level: 46
Required Strength: 490
Required Dexterity: 278
Item Level: 77
+600 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(36 to 40)% to Poison Spell Damage
-12% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Attacker Flees after Striking (16 to 20)%
+(69 to 80)% Enhanced Defense
Poison Resist +(46 to 50)%
Requirements +40%
Socketed (4)

Slimedrool
Slimedrool
Jawbone Cap (4)
Defense: (34 - 37) to (50 - 55)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 3
Required Strength: 25
Item Level: 1
6% Chance to cast level 12 Harvest on Melee Attack
+1 to Barbarian Skill Levels
-(4 to 5)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+10 Life after each Kill
10% to All Vendor Prices
Socketed (1)
Defense: (157 - 170) to (200 - 215)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 20
Required Strength: 50
Item Level: 31
9% Chance to cast level 20 Harvest on Melee Attack
+1 to Barbarian Skill Levels
-(8 to 9)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+25 Life after each Kill
10% to All Vendor Prices
Socketed (2)
Defense: (411 - 439) to (503 - 537)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 37
Required Strength: 175
Item Level: 51
12% Chance to cast level 28 Harvest on Melee Attack
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
-(12 to 13)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+40 Life after each Kill
10% to All Vendor Prices
Socketed (3)
Defense: (605 - 643) to (736 - 783)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 350
Item Level: 77
15% Chance to cast level 36 Harvest on Melee Attack
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
-(14 to 15)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+60 Life after each Kill
10% to All Vendor Prices
Socketed (4)

Robe of Leaves
Robe of Leaves
Scale Mail (4)
Defense: (127 - 147) to (254 - 293)
Required Level: 4
Required Strength: 27 to 28
Item Level: 10
+5% Bonus Elemental Damage to Mark of the Wild
-(2 to 3)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
-(2 to 3)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
-(2 to 3)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(24 to 43)% Enhanced Defense
+10 Life Regenerated per Second
Maximum Life +(2 to 3)%
Poison Resist +(21 to 25)%
Requirements -(3 to 5)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (452 - 505) to (816 - 911)
Required Level: 21
Required Strength: 52 to 54
Item Level: 31
+10% Bonus Elemental Damage to Mark of the Wild
-(5 to 8)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
-(5 to 8)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
-(5 to 8)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(64 to 83)% Enhanced Defense
+20 Life Regenerated per Second
Maximum Life +(3 to 4)%
Poison Resist +(31 to 35)%
Requirements -(6 to 10)%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1166 - 1275) to (2031 - 2221)
Required Level: 39
Required Strength: 171 to 179
Item Level: 51
+15% Bonus Elemental Damage to Mark of the Wild
-(10 to 13)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
-(10 to 13)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
-(10 to 13)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(104 to 123)% Enhanced Defense
+35 Life Regenerated per Second
Maximum Life +(4 to 5)%
Poison Resist +(41 to 45)%
Requirements -(11 to 15)%
Socketed (5)
Defense: (1738 - 1885) to (3030 - 3287)
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 322 to 338
Item Level: 77
+20% Bonus Elemental Damage to Mark of the Wild
-(15 to 18)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
-(15 to 18)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
-(15 to 18)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(124 to 143)% Enhanced Defense
+50 Life Regenerated per Second
Maximum Life +(5 to 6)%
Poison Resist +(46 to 50)%
Requirements -(16 to 20)%
Socketed (6)

Wormtongue
Wormtongue
Light Belt (4)
Defense: (53 - 58) to (71 - 78)
Required Level: 3
Required Strength: 26
Item Level: 1
(31 to 50)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 5-13 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(2 to 4)% Life stolen per Hit
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+(11 to 15) to Dexterity
Socketed (1)
Defense: (214 - 231) to (259 - 279)
Required Level: 21
Required Strength: 55
Item Level: 31
(71 to 90)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 19-50 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(8 to 10)% Life stolen per Hit
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+(21 to 25) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
Defense: (544 - 581) to (649 - 693)
Required Level: 38
Required Strength: 192
Item Level: 51
(111 to 130)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 75-150 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(14 to 16)% Life stolen per Hit
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+(31 to 35) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
Defense: (801 - 851) to (946 - 1006)
Required Level: 46
Required Strength: 384
Item Level: 77
(131 to 150)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 100-250 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(17 to 19)% Life stolen per Hit
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+(36 to 40) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)

Zealot Rush
Zealot Rush
Light Plated Boots (4)
Defense: (67 - 78) to (102 - 119)
Required Level: 6
Required Strength: 31
Item Level: 10
5% Attack Speed
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
(11 to 25)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+(21 to 40)% Enhanced Defense
(3 to 5)% to Dexterity
1% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (1)
Defense: (248 - 281) to (338 - 384)
Required Level: 24
Required Strength: 62
Item Level: 36
10% Attack Speed
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
(41 to 55)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+(41 to 60)% Enhanced Defense
(9 to 11)% to Dexterity
2% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (2)
Defense: (613 - 685) to (817 - 914)
Required Level: 41
Required Strength: 218
Item Level: 51
20% Attack Speed
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
(71 to 85)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+(61 to 80)% Enhanced Defense
(15 to 17)% to Dexterity
3% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (3)
Defense: (944 - 1044) to (1247 - 1378)
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 436
Item Level: 85
30% Attack Speed
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
(86 to 100)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+(81 to 100)% Enhanced Defense
(18 to 20)% to Dexterity
4% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (4)

These are my current early game items. I am stacking as much Poison Damage Over X duration as possible as it seems to be beneficial as explained in https://docs.median-xl.com/doc/wiki/poison under "Passive Poison Damage".

Wrong. Use 2x
Sterrenvogel
Sterrenvogel
Throwing Axe (4)
Required Level: 1
Required Strength: 15
Item Level: 1
Innate Lightning Damage: (13.0% of Strength)
+1 to Barbarian Skill Levels
10% Movement Speed
+100 to Attack Rating
Adds (6 to 7)-(9 to 10) Lightning Damage
-(6 to 8)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+100 Defense
Socketed (1)
Required Level: 17
Required Strength: 36
Item Level: 31
Innate Lightning Damage: (20.0% of Strength)
+1 to Barbarian Skill Levels
15% Movement Speed
+250 to Attack Rating
Adds (20 to 21)-(30 to 31) Lightning Damage
-(11 to 13)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+250 Defense
Socketed (2)
Required Level: 36
Required Strength: 81
Item Level: 51
Innate Lightning Damage: (26.0% of Strength)
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
20% Movement Speed
+500 to Attack Rating
Adds (58 to 60)-(90 to 93) Lightning Damage
-(16 to 18)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+500 Defense
Socketed (2)
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 167
Item Level: 77
Innate Lightning Damage: (33.0% of Strength)
+3 to Barbarian Skill Levels
25% Movement Speed
+1000 to Attack Rating
Adds (174 to 180)-(250 to 260) Lightning Damage
-(18 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+1000 Defense
Socketed (2)
for insane pierce and +skills, and
Featherclaw
for more ar. Also i recommend
Queen of Glass
Queen of Glass
Ancient Armor (4)
Defense: (315 - 344) to (630 - 688)
Required Level: 11
Required Strength: 33 to 34
Item Level: 29
15% Cast Speed
-(6 to 8)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+(76 to 125) to Mana
Lightning Resist +(21 to 25)%
Cold Resist +(21 to 25)%
Requirements -(11 to 15)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (899 - 969) to (1718 - 1852)
Required Level: 30
Required Strength: 57 to 60
Item Level: 40
25% Cast Speed
-(11 to 13)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+(176 to 225) to Mana
Lightning Resist +(31 to 35)%
Cold Resist +(31 to 35)%
Requirements -(21 to 25)%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (2084 - 2224) to (3911 - 4173)
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 175 to 186
Item Level: 67
35% Cast Speed
-(16 to 18)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+(276 to 325) to Mana
Lightning Resist +(41 to 45)%
Cold Resist +(41 to 45)%
Requirements -(31 to 35)%
Socketed (5)
Defense: (3013 - 3202) to (5650 - 6005)
Required Level: 54
Required Strength: 323 to 344
Item Level: 85
40% Cast Speed
-(18 to 20)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+(326 to 375) to Mana
Lightning Resist +(46 to 50)%
Cold Resist +(46 to 50)%
Requirements -(36 to 40)%
Socketed (6)
.

To be fair Raptor+Shield or even TU+Shield does the same. The thing about DW in my personal opinion is i dont find it worth it simply because damage is never going to be the issue anyway. Hell i fucked up my weapon and run for 2 levels with a white balanced axe till i could reequip it while leveling and my damage was still insane..

Defenses is what becomes an issue in my experience especially going into places like Fauzt/Brimm and thats where to me Max Block shines. And seeing as how either way you go you still will dump everything in dex to eventually put Opinophagius into the build it just made the most sense to be to go with a nice shield instead of DW. But, i will agree if all you care about is raw damage and dont have endgame Ophino yet DW Raptor or Sterrenvogel are the way to go. But, again to me i felt defenses was more lacking than damage when i tested out DW.

Also while leveling i found the Hunter Set Shield and used it till i got Toraja's Champion Shield because of the +1 block it had which ended up giving me Max Block at 115 or so with less than 100 Sigs. So in the end i wouldn't exactly say going DW or 1H+Shield either way would be Wrong but rather a preference in which you feel is more important to you. Massive Damage and so so defenses or Amazing Damage and Great Defenses.

Sure, you will want ophiophagus eventually, i was just talking about a dirt cheap build that can do most ubers super easily. Farming will definetly be a pain without ophiophagus, but for bossing purely, its not needed.

how exactly do you reach max block and phis res? I'm struggling so hard

plotzer wrote:how exactly do you reach max block and phis res? I'm struggling so hard

Before 400Sigs? About any equipable +1 Base Block Shield and dumping everything into dex except str to equip items. I was max block at sub 100 sigs and a like level 110-115 with Hunter Set Shield. But i did respec into Mountian King and 1 point Glad Dom to do so for easy mode farming exp then respec back into 1 mountain king and rest in Glad Dom later with more charms and sigs and Abandon Crafted Gear. From there you want to get as many +1 skill charms as well as +skills on gear, 400sigs, More Character Levels, and as much %dex on gear as possible in order to get that max block without the +1 base Block. This is where Abandon Crafted Gloves, Boots, and/or Belt can go a long way to achieving max block without a +1 base.

Hunter Set Shield isn't the ONLY option its just the easiest option to find in K3K farming. But like i said there are a few +1 base block shields that will work whichever you happen to find first with low str req and any other usable stats will do though for getting that max block as early as going into Hell difficulty.

The Hunter Set in general isn't a terrible option but you will however Struggle to get really good Pierce AND Duration with the set. But it is an option and one you may find you need for things like Fauzt/Brimm farming till you can get into endgame gear. Because the extra Leech and Phys Damage from the set will help make up survival if you have low Defense. around 130-150K+ Defense is what i felt like i needed for those two places. Farm the piss out of levels there till your 136-140.

You can also use IO runes for 5% Dex per. Squeezing in some IO runes for more % dex is something you will be doing anyway once you have Ophinophagius. The idea will be to get enough %Dex on gear, flat stats and +skills from Charms, and levels for main stats to achive massive %Dex scaling with only 1 point in Mountain King 28-32 in Ancient and the rest or max Glad Dom and ofcourse 6 Stampede and SMax Snake Bite and Stance.

Phys Res im currently sitting at 23% or 24% and working on getting more but, not quite sure myself how im going to get 50% cap quite yet. But with Max Block, our more than respectable Damage, and 150-200K Defenses its good enough for most content in the game so far.

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My endgame gear so far. Note that its still a work in progress and probably not my final Gear just the best ive managed to put together and test so far. Theres a couple more options i wish to explore if possible but what i have already im fairly confident i can get most all content done as is or rather finish what few i have not done yet. One thing to note is i run Jah Runes in my weapon just for Fauzt/Brimm farming for a little extra leech and damage which helps. Otherwise those change to Nef runes in weapon and Hammerfist also changes out for crafted Gloves with Pierce to Cap at 170%. Ammy and Rings also Change for this as well. (Those swap items are in my Character Inv.) Otherwise i farm with i think 136 or 146% Poison Pierce in current Gear. Things like the Astrogia Set is an example of things i still wish to explore. Theres also a couple Runewords that could work in place of things like my Helm for example i think Taha Helm is almost exactly the same as Royal Circlet minus MF and like 6% Dex.

Demonlord wrote:To be fair Raptor+Shield or even TU+Shield does the same. The thing about DW in my personal opinion is i dont find it worth it simply because damage is never going to be the issue anyway. Hell i fucked up my weapon and run for 2 levels with a white balanced axe till i could reequip it while leveling and my damage was still insane..

Defenses is what becomes an issue in my experience especially going into places like Fauzt/Brimm and thats where to me Max Block shines. And seeing as how either way you go you still will dump everything in dex to eventually put Opinophagius into the build it just made the most sense to be to go with a nice shield instead of DW. But, i will agree if all you care about is raw damage and dont have endgame Ophino yet DW Raptor or Sterrenvogel are the way to go. But, again to me i felt defenses was more lacking than damage when i tested out DW.

Also while leveling i found the Hunter Set Shield and used it till i got Toraja's Champion Shield because of the +1 block it had which ended up giving me Max Block at 115 or so with less than 100 Sigs. So in the end i wouldn't exactly say going DW or 1H+Shield either way would be Wrong but rather a preference in which you feel is more important to you. Massive Damage and so so defenses or Amazing Damage and Great Defenses.

Agree to this. DW with mediocre defense and no leech/sustain just isn't for me, too much kiting. I find having decent block better than more health, and I'll have more AR as well.

Astroghas moon set, raptor runeword, crown of the black rose, triunes blessing, shimmering craft ancient armor and gauntlets and two rings that have +1 skills poison peirce and supernova procs. Maxed snake stance, glads dom, snake bite, 6 into stampede, 5 into mountain king and using thunder god, 1 wolf for defense. Mo'd tcd on all armor gear since spell damage is irrelevant and all sockets possible are no runes for piece. Seems like only pierce and skill lvls with high defense and resists will get you anywhere with this build

Or you can substitute the craft armor for cathedral runeword, the xis version obviously for the poison skill duration bonus