Weird builds please?

[Mason_Jar]

@Jampula, sure. Whatever you want to call it. I was just asked to make a 2hand zon.

[Crash]

someone build judgesin

Judgesin is popular and not a weird build. Pretty common for atmg sin

[HechtHeftig]

I was refering to this

lol wtf does this still work?

Sky Spirit

Sky Spirit
Falcon Mask (Sacred)
Defense: (2390 - 2689) to (2642 - 2972)
(Druid Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 120
2% Chance to cast level 32 Tempest on Striking
150% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 42-84 Lightning Damage
+(20 to 25)% to Lightning Spell Damage
-(28 to 35)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
10% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(140 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 10%
+1 Life on Striking
+(4 to 5) to Light Radius
Socketed (4)

Devil's Dance

Devil's Dance
Bolt Quiver (Sacred)
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
7% Chance to cast level 1 Stormpike on Striking
+(3 to 4) to Druid Skill Levels
+(3 to 4) to Amazon Skill Levels
+(3 to 4) to Necromancer Skill Levels
50% Attack Speed
-20% to Enemy Lightning Resistance

Cyclops (Xis)

Rare rings with +1 skill, -enemy lightning resist, lightning spell, and supernova on kill

Tried it out lately. Sadly I have neither sky spirit nor devils dance and so far the build sucks. The attack speed of a great crossbow is too slow. If guess a normal crossbow would be much better. Anyway: the killspeed RN is far worse than a crafted bow with arrows on striking. Mainly due to the attack speed.

[Crash]

I was refering to this

lol wtf does this still work?

Sky Spirit

Sky Spirit
Falcon Mask (Sacred)
Defense: (2390 - 2689) to (2642 - 2972)
(Druid Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 120
2% Chance to cast level 32 Tempest on Striking
150% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 42-84 Lightning Damage
+(20 to 25)% to Lightning Spell Damage
-(28 to 35)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
10% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(140 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 10%
+1 Life on Striking
+(4 to 5) to Light Radius
Socketed (4)

Devil's Dance

Devil's Dance
Bolt Quiver (Sacred)
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
7% Chance to cast level 1 Stormpike on Striking
+(3 to 4) to Druid Skill Levels
+(3 to 4) to Amazon Skill Levels
+(3 to 4) to Necromancer Skill Levels
50% Attack Speed
-20% to Enemy Lightning Resistance

Cyclops (Xis)

Rare rings with +1 skill, -enemy lightning resist, lightning spell, and supernova on kill

Tried it out lately. Sadly I have neither sky spirit nor devils dance and so far the build sucks. The attack speed of a great crossbow is too slow. If guess a normal crossbow would be much better. Anyway: the killspeed RN is far worse than a crafted bow with arrows on striking. Mainly due to the attack speed.

Because you're using a heavy crossbow. That's obviously slower. Repeating has the best speed and fairly high average base damage, no?

Plus as its nearly all electric, you'll want crushing blow (elfin weapons and other gear) for immunes, and -135 enemy lightning

[Fumbles]

Heavy and repeating have the same wsm now. Without the fiend aura its 680 ias to hit 11 frames with either of those xbows, 215 if aura is active. Prior to this patch the repeating xbox had a -20 wsm which made having fiend aura unnecessary to keep speed capped. Now its mandatory unless a slot or two is sacrificed for wolf stance or some form of skill based speed. Sky Spirit and Devil's Dance add 25 and 50% ias respectively, making them even more important than before.

[HechtHeftig]

Yes exactly. Even with 200 ias it was 2 frames slower than the bow with around 140 ias.

I'll have to try again with a different crossbow.
I had around 60% -enemy lightning resist but I guess I can get some more

[Crash]

Max Block (if its possible?) Lightning Treewarden:

Thunderbane

Sky Spirit

Sky Spirit
Falcon Mask (Sacred)
Defense: (2390 - 2689) to (2642 - 2972)
(Druid Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 120
2% Chance to cast level 32 Tempest on Striking
150% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 42-84 Lightning Damage
+(20 to 25)% to Lightning Spell Damage
-(28 to 35)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
10% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(140 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 10%
+1 Life on Striking
+(4 to 5) to Light Radius
Socketed (4)

Natasha's Legacy (Xis)

Stormflyer

Stormflyer
Kite Shield (Sacred)
Defense: (4190 - 4737) to (4889 - 5527)
Chance to Block: 1% + Class%
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 550
Required Dexterity: 559
Item Level: 120
25% Chance to cast level 60 Forked Lightning on Melee Attack
1% Base Block Chance
+(30 to 40)% to Lightning Spell Damage
-(15 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+(130 to 160)% Enhanced Defense
(11 to 15)% to Dexterity
(31 to 40)% to Energy
Lightning Absorb 5%
25% Weapon Damage Taken Restores Mana
Socketed (4)

Ornate Craft Gauntlets: Gorefest oskill, burning veil proc, lightning spell and pierce

Lightning Enchanted

or

Prodigy (Xis)

Epicenter (Xis)

Rare Rings: +1 skill, supernova or unseelie curse proc, lightning spell and pierce

Klaatu Barada Nikto

Klaatu Barada Nikto
Amulet
Required Level: 110
Item Level: 105
30% Enhanced Damage vs. Necrobots
10% Chance to cast level 40 Nova Bomb on Melee Attack
+2 to All Skills
25% Attack Speed
Adds 1-188 Lightning Damage
+650 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
Stun Attack
+(11 to 16) to Hive
Lightning Resist +(40 to 50)%
Poison Resist +(40 to 50)%

or Rare Amulet: 3-4 skills, mythal proc, lightning spell and pierce (but plz god no lightning arena because that skill is so laggy and shitty)

Playstyle: Gorefest as main attack (need multihitting skill for sky spirit proc and on melee attack for weapon and shield and amulet procs). Idol of Scosglen to help spread slow and more tempest on striking and gain the def/dr boost.

Stats: Enough str for gear, enough dex for max block (rest?), leftovers in str to boost force of nature spell damage

Skills: max force of nature, goodberry, lifeshield, TW form, circle of life passive, idol of scosglen,
1pt acid fiends (gg aura for spell damage and speed)
leftovers poison flash to boost fiend HP

sockets: weapon: 15%IAS/4% lightning spell damage crafted jewels
armor: 15% FHR/4% lightning spell damage and resist if possible crafted jewels, or pgems for resist/max resist

[intermission]

Recently I'm playing my pal with this setup(full screen of supernovas):

Worldstone Shard

Ornate craft circlet: +3 all skills
Ornate craft gauntlets: CtC Stormblast

Icetomb

Icetomb
Field Plate (Sacred)
Defense: (5937 - 7017) to (7053 - 8335)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 625
Item Level: 105
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
+50 Spell Focus
+(20 to 30)% to Cold Spell Damage
-(20 to 25)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(120 to 160)% Enhanced Defense
+(31 to 40) to all Attributes
(11 to 15)% to Strength
Maximum Fire Resist -1%
Cannot Be Frozen
Socketed (6)

but

Hellbourne Disciple

will be probably better

Hibagon

Avatar

Avatar
Shields
'IgnFulGla'
Runeword Level: 100
+1 to All Skills
45% Cast Speed
45% Hit Recovery
-(27 to 30)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
-(27 to 30)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
-(27 to 30)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
(16 to 25)% Magic Find
Requirements +25%

still waiting for

Stormflyer

Stormflyer
Kite Shield (Sacred)
Defense: (4190 - 4737) to (4889 - 5527)
Chance to Block: 1% + Class%
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 550
Required Dexterity: 559
Item Level: 120
25% Chance to cast level 60 Forked Lightning on Melee Attack
1% Base Block Chance
+(30 to 40)% to Lightning Spell Damage
-(15 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+(130 to 160)% Enhanced Defense
(11 to 15)% to Dexterity
(31 to 40)% to Energy
Lightning Absorb 5%
25% Weapon Damage Taken Restores Mana
Socketed (4)

to drop

Malthael's Ward

Malthael's Ward
Sash (Sacred)
Defense: 1013 to 1027
Required Level: 80
Required Strength: 400
Item Level: 1
+1 to Paladin Skill Levels
+(11 to 15)% to Fire Spell Damage
+(11 to 15)% to Cold Spell Damage
+(26 to 38)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(21 to 40) to Vitality
(11 to 20)% Bonus to Defense
Requirements -20%
Socketed (2)

Malthael's Sanctuary
(Paladin Ritualist Set)

for Terror strike duration
2x rare rings +1 skill supernova after kill

Black Dwarf

Black Dwarf
Amulet
Required Level: 110
Item Level: 105
+2 to All Skills
20% Cast Speed
20% Hit Recovery
+(15 to 25)% to Lightning Spell Damage
-(5 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+(15 to 25)% to Cold Spell Damage
-(5 to 20)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(21 to 29) to Supernova
(30 to 40)% Bonus to Defense
-5 to Light Radius

stats: half vita half energy

max: Terror Strike, Stormlord, Hymn, Superbeast, Blessed Life, Lemures as main skill

What do you think?
Note that I'm playing single player so I'm using what I can find in my stash.

[Crash]

Recently I'm playing my pal with this setup(full screen of supernovas):

Worldstone Shard

Ornate craft circlet: +3 all skills
Ornate craft gauntlets: CtC Stormblast

Icetomb

Icetomb
Field Plate (Sacred)
Defense: (5937 - 7017) to (7053 - 8335)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 625
Item Level: 105
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
+50 Spell Focus
+(20 to 30)% to Cold Spell Damage
-(20 to 25)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(120 to 160)% Enhanced Defense
+(31 to 40) to all Attributes
(11 to 15)% to Strength
Maximum Fire Resist -1%
Cannot Be Frozen
Socketed (6)

but

Hellbourne Disciple

will be probably better

Hibagon

Avatar

Avatar
Shields
'IgnFulGla'
Runeword Level: 100
+1 to All Skills
45% Cast Speed
45% Hit Recovery
-(27 to 30)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
-(27 to 30)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
-(27 to 30)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
(16 to 25)% Magic Find
Requirements +25%

still waiting for

Stormflyer

Stormflyer
Kite Shield (Sacred)
Defense: (4190 - 4737) to (4889 - 5527)
Chance to Block: 1% + Class%
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 550
Required Dexterity: 559
Item Level: 120
25% Chance to cast level 60 Forked Lightning on Melee Attack
1% Base Block Chance
+(30 to 40)% to Lightning Spell Damage
-(15 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+(130 to 160)% Enhanced Defense
(11 to 15)% to Dexterity
(31 to 40)% to Energy
Lightning Absorb 5%
25% Weapon Damage Taken Restores Mana
Socketed (4)

to drop

Malthael's Ward

Malthael's Ward
Sash (Sacred)
Defense: 1013 to 1027
Required Level: 80
Required Strength: 400
Item Level: 1
+1 to Paladin Skill Levels
+(11 to 15)% to Fire Spell Damage
+(11 to 15)% to Cold Spell Damage
+(26 to 38)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(21 to 40) to Vitality
(11 to 20)% Bonus to Defense
Requirements -20%
Socketed (2)

Malthael's Sanctuary
(Paladin Ritualist Set)

for Terror strike duration
2x rare rings +1 skill supernova after kill

Black Dwarf

Black Dwarf
Amulet
Required Level: 110
Item Level: 105
+2 to All Skills
20% Cast Speed
20% Hit Recovery
+(15 to 25)% to Lightning Spell Damage
-(5 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+(15 to 25)% to Cold Spell Damage
-(5 to 20)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(21 to 29) to Supernova
(30 to 40)% Bonus to Defense
-5 to Light Radius

stats: half vita half energy

max: Terror Strike, Stormlord, Hymn, Superbeast, Blessed Life, Lemures as main skill

What do you think?
Note that I'm playing single player so I'm using what I can find in my stash.

Stormblast is useless to you without any weapon damage to boost it. It's not a spell-based damage output, so it will be weak in comparison. Supernova looks fun, but it's a very weak spell. Great aoe, not so great damage.

Lemures is kinda meh, but you can make it work I guess. You need more pierce and cold spell to make it worth using, since it's your main attack and you seem to have gone full lightning. Switch your boots out for a sacred craft for more cold spell and pierce if you want that. Hibagon doesn't do a whole lot for your build since you're going to be in melee range anyways. The reanimates have nice auras, but it isn't a playstyle to use them as tanks while you sit behind for DPS output.

Overall, it's a pretty standard Unholy Melee Pala setup. Check out the Blood Knight guide in the Guides Section.

[ergon]

someone build judgesin

Judgesin is popular and not a weird build. Pretty common for atmg sin

oh I thought that was an old build and didn't work anymore or had to be reworked. I can only get atmg from gear then?