Which items should be renewed/reworked/deleted?

We all played one, few or many seasons of Median.
There are many items of different kinds SU and SETS.
Among these items you can find many that we use every season, some are mid and some are end game BIS.
But in this Topic lets focus on items that you never used or will use, that are unpopular or so weak no one would even consider that as a pick or they are just free signets.

When making the poll I picked up BAD/unpopular items from my experience and by looking at Trade transactions popularity.
Feel free to add comments with BAD/unpopular items I did not include in the poll.

Each user has 5 picks.
I needed to put some items in one slot cause there is only 20 poll options

I can only talk about sin sets.
Vizjun is perfectly strong, on the same level as nagi and psi, that are suited as well. Witchhunter is decent enough, and at best would require a very minimal buff. But yea Tracker's definitely need some update, though the main problem probably is that the throw tree is going in too many directions.

To me the priority is getting back proper uniques reanimates so items such as

Screen of Viz-Jaq'Taar

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Quilted Armor (Sacred)
Defense: (11132 - 11789) to (12317 - 12993)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 105
+(171 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+(5000 to 6000) Defense
2% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (6)

even make sense.

I guess some items/sets are more unpopular than bad but maybe this means a class/build requires a rework?

Lynderika wrote:To me the priority is getting back proper uniques reanimates so items such as
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Quilted Armor (Sacred)
Defense: (11132 - 11789) to (12317 - 12993)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 105
+(171 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+(5000 to 6000) Defense
2% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (6)
even make sense.

Yeah why are reanimates lame now? I've never seen an explanation for it.

Opgedronken wrote:
Lynderika wrote:To me the priority is getting back proper uniques reanimates so items such as
Screen of Viz-Jaq'Taar
Screen of Viz-Jaq'Taar
Quilted Armor (Sacred)
Defense: (11132 - 11789) to (12317 - 12993)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 105
+(171 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+(5000 to 6000) Defense
2% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (6)
even make sense.

Yeah why are reanimates lame now? I've never seen an explanation for it.

If I remember correctly, it was that the new 2.0 bestiary created some problems, and the few undeads were put as placeholders. Not sure why it concern every items and not just random reanimates, but anyway it's still possible to have customs reanimate for sure, during the 2.0 beta Ambers on weapon could spawn Khazra clan or something of the like, it even had Gharbad at some point, which was pretty ridiculous.

Though in the end I'm prefectly fine with many items getting walkers, some should have some cool reanimates as their focus, even if in the end it's mostly useless and just for the fun of it. Doing a world war at viz jun with 3% all Viz-Jaq'Taar was perfectly useless, but a cute possibility still.

For me personally

Mad King's Spine

Mad King's Spine
Bonebreaker (Sacred)
One-Hand Damage: (163 - 223) to (245 - 306)
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 544
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.14 per Strength)%
Superbeast adds Deadly Strike Instead of Spell Damage at 50% efficiency
25% Chance to cast level 1 Rend on Melee Attack
+(1 to 3) to All Skills
Adds (41 to 70)-(121 to 150) Damage
+50% Damage to Undead
10% Life stolen per Hit
Stun Attack
+(140 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
Physical Resist -(5 to 10)%
Socketed (3)

Is one of those items id like to see something different its interesting since u can scale with it DS% via superbeast and use a physical Weapon dmg O skill build, but the weapon itself id say didnt have great dmg to let this come to an interesting dmg output, maybe someone tested this out but i think this weapon should become more overall physical dmg to shine. And to make worth out of %DS scale via superbeast

Devs have the data for under-used sacred items, it's probably a hard work but I too think a full rework is necessary.
Too many useless drops.

Some items is really shitty BUT Others is strong and funny. You dont know how to build and make it interesting!. Lets found them

No comment on barb gear, I don't really play barb.

The whole SU list could use a balance pass, but I want to make some specific callouts:

Reanimates in general
Demon Blood Aura is what, 6% max life now?
Dagger base damage,
Clawscratch
Clawscratch
Blade (4)
One-Hand Damage: (8 - 10) to (25 - 36)
Required Level: 10
Required Dexterity: 61
Item Level: 19
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Dexterity)%
+1 to Druid Skill Levels
+3% Bonus Damage to Mark of the Wild
(11 to 25)% Duration Bonus to Mark of the Wild
15% Attack Speed
15% Hit Recovery
+(16 to 25) to Maximum Damage
+(24 to 46)% Enhanced Damage
10% Chance of Crushing Blow
Socketed (1)
One-Hand Damage: (21 - 24) to (66 - 78)
Required Level: 28
Required Dexterity: 95
Item Level: 36
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Dexterity)%
+(1 to 2) to Druid Skill Levels
+6% Bonus Damage to Mark of the Wild
(41 to 55)% Duration Bonus to Mark of the Wild
25% Attack Speed
25% Hit Recovery
+(41 to 50) to Maximum Damage
+(69 to 92)% Enhanced Damage
15% Chance of Crushing Blow
Socketed (2)
One-Hand Damage: (40 - 45) to (106 - 119)
Required Level: 47
Required Dexterity: 188
Item Level: 51
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Dexterity)%
+(2 to 3) to Druid Skill Levels
+9% Bonus Damage to Mark of the Wild
(71 to 85)% Duration Bonus to Mark of the Wild
35% Attack Speed
35% Hit Recovery
+(61 to 70) to Maximum Damage
+(115 to 137)% Enhanced Damage
20% Chance of Crushing Blow
Socketed (3)
One-Hand Damage: (52 - 57) to (132 - 147)
Required Level: 54
Required Dexterity: 373
Item Level: 85
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Dexterity)%
+(2 to 4) to Druid Skill Levels
+12% Bonus Damage to Mark of the Wild
(86 to 100)% Duration Bonus to Mark of the Wild
40% Attack Speed
40% Hit Recovery
+(71 to 80) to Maximum Damage
+(138 to 160)% Enhanced Damage
25% Chance of Crushing Blow
Socketed (3)
,
Drow Valor
(particularly since Rat's fire damage was changed to Owl's lightning damage)
Everything with Shunpo (crafted nagi,
Jaguar's Grasp
Jaguar's Grasp
Tepoztopilli (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (308 - 329) to (402 - 425)
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 733
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
Amazing Grace
Adds 125-200 Damage
250% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 100-150 Fire Damage
Adds 100-150 Lightning Damage
Adds 100-150 Cold Damage
-35% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
+(170 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
+(25 to 30) to Shunpo
+500 to Life
+100 Life after each Kill
Socketed (6)
). Shunpo was introduced as a nerf to Pouncessin several years before I started playing, and I'm really not convinced the nerf needs to stick since spearzon's frames were buffed and the skill scales signiifcantly with Fury now.
Bone Scalpel
Bone Scalpel
Dagger (Sacred)
One-Hand Damage: 37
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 376
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Dexterity)%
8% Chance to cast level 24 Disintegrate on Death Blow
+(4 to 5) to Necromancer Skill Levels
+(4 to 5) to Paladin Skill Levels
+(30 to 40)% to Physical/Magic Spell Damage
+30% to Summoned Minion Life
+20% to Summoned Minion Resistances
+75 to Vitality
+(25 to 50) Life after each Kill
50% Magic Find
Socketed (2)
is a noob trap.
Chillstring
Chillstring
Hunter's Bow (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (140 - 168) to (147 - 177)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 425
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.13 per Dexterity)%
Gematria
(Bonus per Socketed Great/Elemental Runes)
Adds 10-15 Damage
-10% to Enemy Cold Resist
Adds 100-200 Cold Damage
7% Chance to cast level 45 Ice Lance on Striking
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
Maximum Lightning Resist +(1 to 2)%
Maximum Cold Resist +(1 to 2)%
+(1 to 4) Life on Striking
Cannot Be Frozen
5% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (6)
can't get enough flat cold to be relevant. Like... maybe it has a place being used with
Guardian of the Sightless Eye
Guardian of the Sightless Eye
(Barbarian Oskill Set)

Eye of Wisdom
Imperial Guard

Set Bonus with complete set:
Tantrum: 20% of Vitality added as Cold Damage
-15% to Enemy Cold Resistance
15% to Vitality
+20 Maximum Stamina

before
Amok

Amok
Bows
'GurUmBer'
Runeword Level: 115
3% Chance to cast level 17 Gift of Inner Fire on Kill
90% Attack Speed
-25% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+200% Enhanced Damage
-25% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(34 to 39) to Tantrum
Slow Target (5 to 10)%
Elemental Resists +10%
+5 Life on Striking
?
Zerae's Divinity
Zerae's Divinity
(Amazon Storm Set)

Zerae's Holy Wrath
Zerae's Redemption
Zerae's Refinement
Zerae's Vindication

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
+100 Spell Focus
-25% to Enemy Lightning Resistance

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
Physical Resist 10%
50% Bonus to Defense

Set Bonus with complete set:
+200 Spell Focus
+125 to Maximum Damage
+50% to Lightning Spell Damage
-50% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+18 to Divine Judgment
+400 to Life
+2 Life on Striking

has to try to support both an attack build and a caster build. It's very cool that it gives a good single target oskill for the melee build, but most of the stats just don't line up right.
There is no SU+runeword setup that competes with
Satanic Mantra
Satanic Mantra
(Necromancer Summoner Set)

Till We Have Heaven In Sight
Through Death's Veil
Lend Me Thy Light
Archangel Dark Angel

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
+75% to Summoned Minion Life
+200% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
+2 to Necromancer Skill Levels
+50% to Summoned Minion Damage

Set Bonus with complete set:
+3 to Necromancer Skill Levels
+1 to Maximum Necromancer Minions
+25 to Void Archon
+17 to Dark Power
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+50% to Summoned Minion Damage

, let alone
Archbishop Lazarus
Archbishop Lazarus
(Tribute Set)

Lazarus' Chasuble
Lazarus' Surplice Cap
Lazarus' Votive Lamp
Lazarus' Lamen

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
+25% to Summoned Minion Damage
+25% to Summoned Minion Resistances

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+50% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

Set Bonus with complete set:
+1 Extra Veil King
+2 to Necromancer Skill Levels
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+50% to Summoned Minion Damage
+50% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

. Only
Shadowfiend
Shadowfiend
Marrow Staff (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: 45 to 49
(Necromancer Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 275
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.06 per Strength)%
+8 to Necromancer Skill Levels
(50 to 70)% Cast Speed
+50% Damage to Undead
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+(125 to 200)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(25 to 50)% to Summoned Minion Resistances
+(100 to 130) Life after each Kill
10% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (6)
comes close.
Creed
Creed
(Assassin Throwing Set)

Tracker's Effigy
Tracker's Runeward
Tracker's Stealth
Tracker's Strike

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
+2 to Assassin Skill Levels
15% to Dexterity

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
Maximum Elemental Resists +2%
Cannot Be Frozen

Set Bonus with complete set:
5% Chance to cast level 42 Scorpion Blade on Kill
100% Chance to cast level 13 Knife Throw on Kill
+5 to Assassin Skill Levels
-50% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+200 to Dexterity
+2 Life on Striking

tries to support three different setups (Scorpion Blade, Maelstrom, Storm Crows) and fails at all of them.
Herald of Pestilence
Herald of Pestilence
Angel Star (Sacred)
One-Hand Damage: 55 to 58
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 115
Required Strength: 602
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.14 per Strength)%
Deal No Fire, Lightning or Cold Damage
Graveyard: +40% Total Damage and +2 Projectiles
3% Chance to cast level 40 Rotting Flesh on Kill
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
+(25 to 50)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
+50% Damage to Undead
-(15 to 30)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(10 to 15) to Devouring Cloud
+(20 to 30) to Graveyard
Socketed (3)
,
Hivemind
Hivemind
Blackguard Helm (Sacred)
Defense: (1828 - 2092) to (1927 - 2206)
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 387
Item Level: 105
+(2 to 3) to Paladin Skill Levels
+(20 to 30)% to Spell Damage
-(25 to 35)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(16 to 19) to Hive
+(31 to 40)% to Summoned Minion Life
+(87 to 114)% Enhanced Defense
Maximum Mana +25%
Poison Resist +30%
Socketed (4)
, and all other poison support gear on paladin. Superbeast lost PSD, there's no real reason to play paladin over druid for Virulence or other poison builds any more.
Alnair
Alnair
Saber (Sacred)
One-Hand Damage: 123 to 126
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 443
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
You Cannot Summon Blade Spirits Directly
40% Chance to cast level 50 Blade Spirits on Melee Attack
+(2 to 3) to All Skills
Ignore Target's Defense
+200% Enhanced Damage
+1 to Blade Spirits
Weapon Physical Damage +150%
+(60 to 75)% to Summoned Minion Life
+(20 to 25)% to Summoned Minion Resistances
100% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (3)
is an interesting concept but last I heard the Blade Spirits had ctc Jitan's Gate on striking which is... absolutely hilarious.
Poison support on bows and crossbows is odd... Bowa will never take Curare because it desperately needs the Paragon life to survive, Xbox Necro and Bow Druid have no poison support, and Paladin no longer has Plague even if there were a good oskill for spreading poison.
Atanna Khan's Dress
Atanna Khan's Dress
Ceremonial Armor (Sacred)
Defense: 10306 to 14529
(Sorceress Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 722
Item Level: 120
+20 to Maximum Familiar Skill Level
3% Chance to cast level 60 Magic Missiles on Death Blow
30% Movement Speed
+(5 to 10) to Arcane Swarm
+200% Enhanced Defense
+(1000 to 3000) Defense
Elemental Resists -25%
Physical Resist (5 to 10)%
10% Chance to Avoid Damage
Socketed (6)
is just used to respec with... Arcane Swarm buffs and a spell damage bow to make bow sorc not a meme when?
Dux Infernum
Dux Infernum
War Axe (Sacred)
One-Hand Damage: (115 - 128) to (140 - 156)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 581
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
Level 8 Hellfire Aura
+(4 to 5) to All Skills
Adds 500-1000 Fire Damage
0.5% to Fire Spell Damage (Based on Character Level)
+(150 to 180)% Enhanced Damage
+200% to Summoned Minion Life
Maximum Cold Resist -2%
+200 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (6)
could use a rework after the Jinn change (and particularly since Melee Devotion killed it for UHM).

And these I'm confused why they're on your list:

Witchhunter's Attire
Witchhunter's Attire
(Assassin Claw Set)

Witchhunter's Crucifix
Witchhunter's Faith
Witchhunter's Hood
Witchhunter's Ire

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
-10% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
Maximum Block Chance +10%

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
50% Chance to cast level 24 Crucify on Melee Attack
+150 Life on Melee Attack

Set Bonus with complete set:
+5 to Assassin Skill Levels
-20% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
+15 to Way of the Gryphon (Assassin Only)
25% to Dexterity
Fire Absorb 3%
Lightning Absorb 3%
Cold Absorb 3%
+150 Life on Melee Attack
2% Reanimate as: Returned Archer

is fine, it's just super common so there's no point in buying it. The hat is so good that it's a staple midgame item on pretty much everybody.
Alchemist Apron
Alchemist Apron
Scale Mail (Sacred)
Defense: 4960 to 5538
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 575
Item Level: 105
1% Chance to cast level 50 Cluster Bomb on Death Blow
+(10 to 30)% to Spell Damage
+(15 to 20) to Powder Keg
+100% Enhanced Defense
Elemental Resists +10%
Poison Length Reduced by 75%
Physical Resist (1 to 10)%
Cannot Be Frozen
Socketed (6)
is underrated. It only adds up to 30 spell damage, but the defensive stats are great.
Ratbane
Ratbane
Heavy Crossbow (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (237 - 285) to (287 - 345)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 614
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
Adds (400 to 550)-(750 to 1000) Fire Damage
10% Mana stolen per Hit
-30% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
+(1 to 10) to Barrage
10% Chance of Crushing Blow
(30 to 40)% to Strength
1% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (6)
's only problem is that
Crucible

Crucible
Necromancer Crossbows
'IgnJahGul'
Runeword Level: 100
Famine Grants 1% of Strength and Dexterity as Innate Elemental Damage
Famine No Longer Grants Weapon Physical Damage
25% Chance to cast level 36 Banish on Kill
50% Attack Speed
+(300 to 400) to Attack Rating
-(28 to 35)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+15% Enhanced Damage
25% to Strength
5% Chance to Avoid Damage
+2 Mana on Striking
does literally everything better, and every crossbow aside from
Advent of Hatred
Advent of Hatred
Dart Thrower (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (272 - 355) to (465 - 608)
(Necromancer Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 1185 to 1580
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
Deathly Effigy: +1 Maximum Effigy Allowed
10% Chance to cast level 1 Bolt on Striking
30% Attack Speed
Adds (60 to 100)-(250 to 350) Damage
(75 to 150)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
20% to Strength
Requirements +(200 to 300)%
Socketed (6)
and
Buriza-Do Kyanon
Buriza-Do Kyanon
Heavy Crossbow (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (239 - 287) to (587 - 795)
Required Level: 120
Required Strength: 614
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
2% Chance to cast level 50 Blizzard on Striking
20% Attack Speed
Adds 2-(300 to 450) Damage
Ignore Target's Defense
Adds 350-400 Cold Damage
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
-50% to Enemy Cold Resistance
Socketed (6)
has that problem, because Crucible is both the best fire damage crossbow and (hot take alert) the best pre-UMO phys damage crossbow.
Leah's Vision
Leah's Vision
Jared's Stone (Sacred)
One-Hand Damage: 40 to 43
(Sorceress Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 242
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Dexterity)%
+1% Physical/Magic Spell Damage per 20 Vitality
+(5 to 7) to Sorceress Skill Levels
+20% to Physical/Magic Spell Damage
+(40 to 50) to Death Ripple
Regenerate Mana +25%
Elemental Resists -20%
3% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (3)
was bad before the rework of
Lyrannikin

Lyrannikin
Sorceress Body Armors
'HemArcUn'
Runeword Level: 110
+(5 to 10)% Bonus to Spell Focus
+(13 to 15) to Rising Dawn
+7% to Summoned Minion Damage
+200% Enhanced Defense
+(150 to 200) to Vitality
Elemental Resists +75%
Poison Length Reduced by (65 to 75)%
Physical Damage Reduced by (40 to 60)
but has a place now. Death Ripple is awful as an oskill and it's not even great on Necromancer, but the orange text is quite good for an RD/Singu build.
Chober Chaber
Chober Chaber
Hand of God (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: 104 to 105
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 832
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
Amazing Grace
Level 30 Kraken Stance
Kraken Stance: +3% Damage per Base Level in the Templar Tree
(100 to 150)% Attack Speed
Ignore Target's Defense
+50% Damage to Undead
Adds 150-300 Fire Damage
Adds 150-300 Lightning Damage
Adds 150-300 Cold Damage
-(25 to 35)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
Socketed (6)
is actually underrated in my opinion. It's not at all endgame viable but it's a super budget way to get yourself into Fauztinville with 0 set items, enchanted runes, or other SUs. But I wouldn't complain if it were buffed to 3.5% per HMP skill level.

Siosilvar wrote:[*]
Chober Chaber
Chober Chaber
Hand of God (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: 104 to 105
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 832
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
Amazing Grace
Level 30 Kraken Stance
Kraken Stance: +3% Damage per Base Level in the Templar Tree
(100 to 150)% Attack Speed
Ignore Target's Defense
+50% Damage to Undead
Adds 150-300 Fire Damage
Adds 150-300 Lightning Damage
Adds 150-300 Cold Damage
-(25 to 35)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
Socketed (6)
is actually underrated in my opinion. It's not at all endgame viable but it's a super budget way to get yourself into Fauztinville with 0 set items, enchanted runes, or other SUs. But I wouldn't complain if it were buffed to 3.5% per HMP skill level.[/list]

Yeah, I agree. It's pretty alright.