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Seikun
Pit Knight
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Istaryu wrote:
rugby_1 wrote:
No plan to dual wield. Just thinking of using thunder king as main hand + shield when it comes to ubers (using crafted great sword for generic farming). In some of the earlier Sam kills on the showcase thread, there is discussion as to how orange text modifiers don't work when a weapon is used while dual wielding or on off-hand.


Whats the point of using a shield on an str build?


Shield provides flat def, further enhanced by TCD parameter. Barbarian in particular has access to Gilded Shield with very high base def.
Then again, on top of being sturdy, some shields like
The Ancients' Legacy
The Ancients' Legacy
Gilded Shield (Sacred)

Defense: (15050 - 16085) to (17457 - 18740)
Chance to Block: 3%
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength:
2292
Item Level: 120
Indestructible
+4 to Barbarian Skill Levels
40% Block Speed
2% Base Block Chance
Enhanced Weapon Damage +90%
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+5000 Defense
Total Character Defense 30%
Requirements +250%
Socketed (4)
and
Warpath (Xis)
Warpath
Barbarian Shields

'OhXis'
Runeword Level: 120
25% Chance to cast level 4 Time Strike on Melee Attack
60% Block Speed
Adds 25-100 damage
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
55% to Vitality
Cannot be Unsocketed
add quite a lot to offensive capabilities.
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Seikun wrote:
Istaryu wrote:
rugby_1 wrote:
No plan to dual wield. Just thinking of using thunder king as main hand + shield when it comes to ubers (using crafted great sword for generic farming). In some of the earlier Sam kills on the showcase thread, there is discussion as to how orange text modifiers don't work when a weapon is used while dual wielding or on off-hand.


Whats the point of using a shield on an str build?


Shield provides flat def, further enhanced by TCD parameter. Barbarian in particular has access to Gilded Shield with very high base def.
Then again, on top of being sturdy, some shields like
The Ancients' Legacy
The Ancients' Legacy
Gilded Shield (Sacred)

Defense: (15050 - 16085) to (17457 - 18740)
Chance to Block: 3%
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength:
2292
Item Level: 120
Indestructible
+4 to Barbarian Skill Levels
40% Block Speed
2% Base Block Chance
Enhanced Weapon Damage +90%
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+5000 Defense
Total Character Defense 30%
Requirements +250%
Socketed (4)
and
Warpath (Xis)
Warpath
Barbarian Shields

'OhXis'
Runeword Level: 120
25% Chance to cast level 4 Time Strike on Melee Attack
60% Block Speed
Adds 25-100 damage
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
55% to Vitality
Cannot be Unsocketed
add quite a lot to offensive capabilities.


Yep exactly, not to mention Thunder King is a one-hand weapon.
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You are trading a lot of damage for a little bit of defense, how is that worth it?
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Seikun
Pit Knight
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Istaryu wrote:You are trading a lot of damage for a little bit of defense, how is that worth it?

Not an axiom, really. Good shield can provide with more base def than all other armor pieces combined, and some offensive boost as well.
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PizzaGater
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Seikun wrote:
Istaryu wrote:You are trading a lot of damage for a little bit of defense, how is that worth it?

Not an axiom, really. Good shield can provide with more base def than all other armor pieces combined, and some offensive boost as well.


I don't think it would work. from what I've seen on top builds they never mitigate dmg sources but instead focus everything on an element (here light dmg)

that's why I suggested maybe an helm like bul kathos temper to help maxing dmg with thunder king
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DesolanceR
Destroyer
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Hi, I need some help regarding the crafted items. Weapons mostly. I don't understand how it works really. I'm reading the compendium but it seems I'm dumb :P. (viewtopic.php?t=19419#2-1) I'm interested mostly in recomendations and the process. Do I need a Sacred rare weapon or sacred superior gray weapon? If grey how do I boost damage ? If yellow do I use oil than shrine afterwards then blessing and look for what? I feel like the dmg on my crafts are quite low. Thank you
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DesolanceR wrote:Hi, I need some help regarding the crafted items. Weapons mostly. I don't understand how it works really. I'm reading the compendium but it seems I'm dumb :P. (viewtopic.php?t=19419#2-1) I'm interested mostly in recomendations and the process. Do I need a Sacred rare weapon or sacred superior gray weapon? If grey how do I boost damage ? If yellow do I use oil than shrine afterwards then blessing and look for what? I feel like the dmg on my crafts are quite low. Thank you


to shrine-craft something, it needs to be 1) a sacred item and 2) yellow colored (rare rarity).

a lot of the times, rare items are hard to find. to combat this, a common trick people do is to find the sacred base (any color, oil of renewal it to make it white-colored), then bring it to charsi imbue to turn it rare. then youll be able to craft the newly acquired rare item with shrines. shrine crafting is pretty much like rerolling a rare, but instead of 6 affixes, you get 4 affixes PLUS the shrine bonuses (these bonuses can be found in the docs).

after several dozens of shrine rolls, you will find the 2 affixes youre looking for (150-200ed and 250-375 max dmg), THEN its time to bless it. bless should only be done on items that rolled good affixes.

such crafts can get pretty powerful to the point where they beat very rare sacred uniques. just keep in mind that the most important part of a craft is not the shrine bonuses, but the base affixes the item can roll. ideally, for weapon-based characters, you want your crafted weapon to have ed, min dmg and max dmg. but these are very very rare so people start with a simple ed-max dmg weapon and slowly roll a spare weapon on the side as they find more shrines. then when you get an upgrade, you switch both weapon and repeat the process.
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DesolanceR
Destroyer
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Thank you for your response @Wolf. I think I got this somewhat. So basically I will just need to reroll (shrine) a sacred yellow with both ~180ed and ~350 dmg. After that if I like the rest of the affixes on it I should bless. I should have two of these and always reroll the weaker one. Haven't played in 2 years median and forgot, but that d2 remaster news got me punped up