Melee Sorceress

[Solfege]

what's a good time to transition from the melee sorc set to a non set setup? it seems to be giving me quite a bit and i'm unsure when that transition would be a good idea.

I'm just reaching the 120 stuff, and duncraig kicks my ass. If i play around fussilade and kiting i can deal with most of the normal content. but once i need to tele past a wall It's just better to remake and kill the starting area again. so atm i'm currently farming the rest of my sigs in nihlathak and then try for perfect tran athulua charm/token

I'd recommend upgrades after Toraja, but you can push the Set up to Xazax.

Consider doing more than just Nihlathak runs for SoL. The Torajan Jungles and K3KBA are both easy areas and you can collect a fair number of sigs per run.

Once you get more SoL and practice, Dunc becomes easier. For example, with all 400 SoL eaten, you can basically RMB all of Dunc with the Set. When I teleport across that gap in Dunc that puts you right into a mob of enemies, I plat a Fusillade immediately to clear a path, then move.

[ojejku]

I can confirm I obliterate Dunc with sorc set setup, to be honest, I got surprised that I'm doing it even better than necro xbow with Hwanin's Hwacha crossbow, so @cyborgtemplar you're doing sth wrong

@Solfege wouldn't be worth to use Shamanka instead of Divine Apparition since we get the tp charm? Divine has that great advantage of freezing mobs after tp, so it's useful in Dunc for example, however dmg wise bloodlust seems just too good to skip? of course I'm talking about phys setup.

[cyborgtemplar]

oh i know i'm doing something wrong I'm not doubting that. even if theirs a guide of when to start area's by rough estimation, theirs very little on the actual execution outside of ubers. It's just my inability to actually survive a massive group collapsing at once in the first teleport across. no merc or anything.

my stats being (lvl 121)

str - 651 (charms make up a lot of this, it'll go down once i respec a little later. after i farm out a better cow charm and finish sigs.)
dex - 1991
defence - 130k
hp - 11,902 (w/ moonstrike)
block - 40%
resists - 79/78/78/79
physical - 40%

bladestorm dmg - 2633-4004 | Attack damage 6.4-10k (both with moonstrike, no firedance)

edit: the reason i was doing sigs in nihlathak instead of k3k and such. it's faster. sure one run of k3k will get more if i break down all the sets (roughly 4-6 a full clear, i have really low mf). but i can clear nihlathak in about a minute or so for 2. plus better rate of set drops. . . the only thing left in the jungle for me are the trophy's from jitan and the blood dude.

I keep hearing about necro being better as is barb. barb i won't play strictly because of aesthetics, i can't stand looking at their model walking around all day. necro the walk animation is at least bearable. but mine didn't make it past like lvl 15 lol, just feels so ridiculously slow on the actual move speed. at least melee sorc gets baneblade + boots (neither can match sin, but i'm biased in sins favor . . . they're just absurdly weak with similar investment)

ya the slain souls just hit me for so much. some runs i get through the entire first 3 ring area's (before tele) without a single issue. and some runs i'll die early on. even the barrels don't seem to hit me for as much as the slain souls do.

[zolaqq]

@cyborgtemplar: Your blockrate seem to be a little low. Have you tried to use a shield with +2 blockrate ?
Perhaps you should craft a sacred spiked shild.

[DJPaxo]

I can confirm I obliterate Dunc with sorc set setup, to be honest, I got surprised that I'm doing it even better than necro xbow with Hwanin's Hwacha crossbow, so @cyborgtemplar you're doing sth wrong

@Solfege wouldn't be worth to use Shamanka instead of Divine Apparition since we get the tp charm? Divine has that great advantage of freezing mobs after tp, so it's useful in Dunc for example, however dmg wise bloodlust seems just too good to skip? of course I'm talking about phys setup.

Use Qarak's will instead, simply place down a Fussilade and switch. 250% free extra damage for your Bloodlust.

Or get your self one of these.

[DJPaxo]

oh i know i'm doing something wrong I'm not doubting that. even if theirs a guide of when to start area's by rough estimation, theirs very little on the actual execution outside of ubers. It's just my inability to actually survive a massive group collapsing at once in the first teleport across. no merc or anything.

my stats being (lvl 121)

str - 651 (charms make up a lot of this, it'll go down once i respec a little later. after i farm out a better cow charm and finish sigs.)
dex - 1991
defence - 130k
hp - 11,902 (w/ moonstrike)
block - 40%
resists - 79/78/78/79
physical - 40%

bladestorm dmg - 2633-4004 | Attack damage 6.4-10k (both with moonstrike, no firedance)

edit: the reason i was doing sigs in nihlathak instead of k3k and such. it's faster. sure one run of k3k will get more if i break down all the sets (roughly 4-6 a full clear, i have really low mf). but i can clear nihlathak in about a minute or so for 2. plus better rate of set drops. . . the only thing left in the jungle for me are the trophy's from jitan and the blood dude.

I keep hearing about necro being better as is barb. barb i won't play strictly because of aesthetics, i can't stand looking at their model walking around all day. necro the walk animation is at least bearable. but mine didn't make it past like lvl 15 lol, just feels so ridiculously slow on the actual move speed. at least melee sorc gets baneblade + boots (neither can match sin, but i'm biased in sins favor . . . they're just absurdly weak with similar investment)

ya the slain souls just hit me for so much. some runs i get through the entire first 3 ring area's (before tele) without a single issue. and some runs i'll die early on. even the barrels don't seem to hit me for as much as the slain souls do.

Provide TSW link so we can see your gear.

You need to get arround 3k dex with a 5% ctb shield. Max block helps you so much.
Side that, i went for the lightning tree instead of poison tree simply because of the avoid chance and the defense bonus. which also helped me alot, more than 20% phys resist.

To this day, i have not a single time needed Phys resist, and im at 30% atm.
I am running Lightning/Cold setup, but i do also have end game gear all around.

[cyborgtemplar]

oh i know i'm doing something wrong I'm not doubting that. even if theirs a guide of when to start area's by rough estimation, theirs very little on the actual execution outside of ubers. It's just my inability to actually survive a massive group collapsing at once in the first teleport across. no merc or anything.

my stats being (lvl 121)

str - 651 (charms make up a lot of this, it'll go down once i respec a little later. after i farm out a better cow charm and finish sigs.)
dex - 1991
defence - 130k
hp - 11,902 (w/ moonstrike)
block - 40%
resists - 79/78/78/79
physical - 40%

bladestorm dmg - 2633-4004 | Attack damage 6.4-10k (both with moonstrike, no firedance)

edit: the reason i was doing sigs in nihlathak instead of k3k and such. it's faster. sure one run of k3k will get more if i break down all the sets (roughly 4-6 a full clear, i have really low mf). but i can clear nihlathak in about a minute or so for 2. plus better rate of set drops. . . the only thing left in the jungle for me are the trophy's from jitan and the blood dude.

I keep hearing about necro being better as is barb. barb i won't play strictly because of aesthetics, i can't stand looking at their model walking around all day. necro the walk animation is at least bearable. but mine didn't make it past like lvl 15 lol, just feels so ridiculously slow on the actual move speed. at least melee sorc gets baneblade + boots (neither can match sin, but i'm biased in sins favor . . . they're just absurdly weak with similar investment)

ya the slain souls just hit me for so much. some runs i get through the entire first 3 ring area's (before tele) without a single issue. and some runs i'll die early on. even the barrels don't seem to hit me for as much as the slain souls do.

Provide TSW link so we can see your gear.

You need to get arround 3k dex with a 5% ctb shield. Max block helps you so much.
Side that, i went for the lightning tree instead of poison tree simply because of the avoid chance and the defense bonus. which also helped me alot, more than 20% phys resist.

To this day, i have not a single time needed Phys resist, and im at 30% atm.
I am running Lightning/Cold setup, but i do also have end game gear all around.

it's the set shield. so only 1%. it's why my original question was when to switch away from the set. it's powerful and all (i killed it and got a 2 sorc charm, but died several times in the process. mainly suicide tele + fussilade to clear the room). i use the bloodlust prebuff staff on switch since i don't tele enough to need a source outside of jitans. It essentialy just ends up . . did i get hit once . if yes check for more than 4 mobs . . if yes dead. i'll do a TSW link some time. gotta figure out how to do it. and class here shortly so no time. i'm running a poison/fire setup.

[DJPaxo]

oh i know i'm doing something wrong I'm not doubting that. even if theirs a guide of when to start area's by rough estimation, theirs very little on the actual execution outside of ubers. It's just my inability to actually survive a massive group collapsing at once in the first teleport across. no merc or anything.

my stats being (lvl 121)

str - 651 (charms make up a lot of this, it'll go down once i respec a little later. after i farm out a better cow charm and finish sigs.)
dex - 1991
defence - 130k
hp - 11,902 (w/ moonstrike)
block - 40%
resists - 79/78/78/79
physical - 40%

bladestorm dmg - 2633-4004 | Attack damage 6.4-10k (both with moonstrike, no firedance)

edit: the reason i was doing sigs in nihlathak instead of k3k and such. it's faster. sure one run of k3k will get more if i break down all the sets (roughly 4-6 a full clear, i have really low mf). but i can clear nihlathak in about a minute or so for 2. plus better rate of set drops. . . the only thing left in the jungle for me are the trophy's from jitan and the blood dude.

I keep hearing about necro being better as is barb. barb i won't play strictly because of aesthetics, i can't stand looking at their model walking around all day. necro the walk animation is at least bearable. but mine didn't make it past like lvl 15 lol, just feels so ridiculously slow on the actual move speed. at least melee sorc gets baneblade + boots (neither can match sin, but i'm biased in sins favor . . . they're just absurdly weak with similar investment)

ya the slain souls just hit me for so much. some runs i get through the entire first 3 ring area's (before tele) without a single issue. and some runs i'll die early on. even the barrels don't seem to hit me for as much as the slain souls do.

Provide TSW link so we can see your gear.

You need to get arround 3k dex with a 5% ctb shield. Max block helps you so much.
Side that, i went for the lightning tree instead of poison tree simply because of the avoid chance and the defense bonus. which also helped me alot, more than 20% phys resist.

To this day, i have not a single time needed Phys resist, and im at 30% atm.
I am running Lightning/Cold setup, but i do also have end game gear all around.

it's the set shield. so only 1%. it's why my original question was when to switch away from the set. it's powerful and all (i killed it and got a 2 sorc charm, but died several times in the process. mainly suicide tele + fussilade to clear the room). i use the bloodlust prebuff staff on switch since i don't tele enough to need a source outside of jitans. It essentialy just ends up . . did i get hit once . if yes check for more than 4 mobs . . if yes dead. i'll do a TSW link some time. gotta figure out how to do it. and class here shortly so no time. i'm running a poison/fire setup.

TSW link: https://tsw.vn.cz/acc/index.php
simply sign up with ur tsw account

Sounds to me like your not reaching your breakpoints.
Once you tele, you should be able to hit something and instantly leech back lost hp, and that way clear the room/entrance after tele.

I need some stats, could you post screenshots of ur d2stats page 1 and 2 for me?

[cyborgtemplar]

oh i know i'm doing something wrong I'm not doubting that. even if theirs a guide of when to start area's by rough estimation, theirs very little on the actual execution outside of ubers. It's just my inability to actually survive a massive group collapsing at once in the first teleport across. no merc or anything.

my stats being (lvl 121)

str - 651 (charms make up a lot of this, it'll go down once i respec a little later. after i farm out a better cow charm and finish sigs.)
dex - 1991
defence - 130k
hp - 11,902 (w/ moonstrike)
block - 40%
resists - 79/78/78/79
physical - 40%

bladestorm dmg - 2633-4004 | Attack damage 6.4-10k (both with moonstrike, no firedance)

edit: the reason i was doing sigs in nihlathak instead of k3k and such. it's faster. sure one run of k3k will get more if i break down all the sets (roughly 4-6 a full clear, i have really low mf). but i can clear nihlathak in about a minute or so for 2. plus better rate of set drops. . . the only thing left in the jungle for me are the trophy's from jitan and the blood dude.

I keep hearing about necro being better as is barb. barb i won't play strictly because of aesthetics, i can't stand looking at their model walking around all day. necro the walk animation is at least bearable. but mine didn't make it past like lvl 15 lol, just feels so ridiculously slow on the actual move speed. at least melee sorc gets baneblade + boots (neither can match sin, but i'm biased in sins favor . . . they're just absurdly weak with similar investment)

ya the slain souls just hit me for so much. some runs i get through the entire first 3 ring area's (before tele) without a single issue. and some runs i'll die early on. even the barrels don't seem to hit me for as much as the slain souls do.

Provide TSW link so we can see your gear.

You need to get arround 3k dex with a 5% ctb shield. Max block helps you so much.
Side that, i went for the lightning tree instead of poison tree simply because of the avoid chance and the defense bonus. which also helped me alot, more than 20% phys resist.

To this day, i have not a single time needed Phys resist, and im at 30% atm.
I am running Lightning/Cold setup, but i do also have end game gear all around.

it's the set shield. so only 1%. it's why my original question was when to switch away from the set. it's powerful and all (i killed it and got a 2 sorc charm, but died several times in the process. mainly suicide tele + fussilade to clear the room). i use the bloodlust prebuff staff on switch since i don't tele enough to need a source outside of jitans. It essentialy just ends up . . did i get hit once . if yes check for more than 4 mobs . . if yes dead. i'll do a TSW link some time. gotta figure out how to do it. and class here shortly so no time. i'm running a poison/fire setup.

TSW link: https://tsw.vn.cz/acc/index.php
simply sign up with ur tsw account

Sounds to me like your not reaching your breakpoints.
Once you tele, you should be able to hit something and instantly leech back lost hp, and that way clear the room/entrance after tele.

I need some stats, could you post screenshots of ur d2stats page 1 and 2 for me?

will do later. at school atm, and will be for probably the next 12 hours. just commenting between classes.

as for the breakpoints i'm hitting them all outside the 280 block speed, i took special notice of those (the 40 combat speed belt, and 15 combat speed charm help immensely with this, breakpoints are the very reason i chose to keep that belt. I don't kill fast enough to leech back that quick. my leech is enough that 1 fussilade easily heals me to full if it fully hits. but wont' full heal me in the 1 second it takes the pack to kill me. it depends on the size of the pack. if it's only like 6-8ish or something then it's not a big deal. it's when theirs like 15+ that i'm popping into.

If my leech was higher i'd probably go to full very very quickly with fussilade, but the set doesn't give much room for that outside of leech jewels. atm i'm using io's and amethysts for dmg + block.

[nonoroazoro]

Great guide, including leveling... That's all I need! I love u!!!