Achilles - An Endgame Neutraldin Guide

Can't wait to see how often relics drop and what kind of strange concoctions people come up with for them.

sm0cker wrote:Potentially usefull relics: Bane, Magic Missle, Dream eater, Boneyard, Eagle Stance, Doom and Wolf Companion (does it work with vessels ?), Balefire, Arcane torrent and Immersion (mana paladin ?), Hurricane, Colosseum (not sure if it will break neutrality), Hive. But thats even more buttons to press.

Umm I would say the following are great:

Vessel Of Justice (+3 VoJ +6-8% PSD)
Vessel Of Retribution (+3 VoR +6-8% PSD)
Rune of Mana (+44 flat ene at 140)
Eagle Stance (Eagle Stance for Regen and ~25 flat vit)
Bear Stance (Bear stance w/ Collector is PogChamp)
Holy Trap (+1 Pally skills)
Hurricane (+10% PSD)
Hive (+2% max res and Hive bonus)
Jitan's Gate (+75% Velocity bonus for a short duration - Increased Duncraig farming speed - Depending on duration could reduce clear below 2 minutes)
Nightmare (Physical resistance reduction - Curse so it won't work in labs, so not great but hey its there)
Pyroclastic Flow (+8% Energy)
Raven Flight (+9% PSD)
Resurrect (+25% MF when near a ressurected mob - situational but okay I guess)
Summon Fallen (+15% MF)
----- Dont feel like listing all the max res ones -----
Summon Glowing Fungus (+2% max light res)
Summon Sinner (+2% max fire res)
Bloodstorm (+2% max fire res)
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Tainted Blood (Some additional regen)
Titan's Fortitude (Not sure if this disables spells but a nice defensive buff)

I wouldn't go for Magic Missle, Dream eater, Boneyard or Doom. You won't need to use any single target outside of the new single target. Doom doesn't do anything as it doesn't reduce resistance on non-assassin characters.

Ekital wrote:Vessel Of Justice (+3 VoJ +6-8% PSD)

This one confuses me a little. You're saying +3 VoJ but the relic shows +9 to +17 what's going on with that you think?

Ekital wrote:I wouldn't go for Magic Missle, Dream eater, Boneyard or Doom. You won't need to use any single target outside of the new single target. Doom doesn't do anything as it doesn't reduce resistance on non-assassin characters.

Also, curious why you're so confident the new single target skill will be so powerful?

tbone503 wrote:
Ekital wrote:Vessel Of Justice (+3 VoJ +6-8% PSD)

This one confuses me a little. You're saying +3 VoJ but the relic shows +9 to +17 what's going on with that you think?

Ekital wrote:I wouldn't go for Magic Missle, Dream eater, Boneyard or Doom. You won't need to use any single target outside of the new single target. Doom doesn't do anything as it doesn't reduce resistance on non-assassin characters.

Also, curious why you're so confident the new single target skill will be so powerful?

Oskills native to classes can only go to +3 max. Hence why you can't use 2x

Screaming Serpent

Screaming Serpent
Short Spear (Sacred)
Throw Damage: 207 to 240
One-Hand Damage: 135 to 150
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 924
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Dexterity)%
10% Chance to cast level 1 Javelin Nova on Kill
+(2 to 3) to All Skills
+450 Poison Damage over 1 seconds
+200% Enhanced Damage
-(25 to 30)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Weapon Physical Damage +(30 to 90)%
Maximum Poison Resist +2%
Poison Length Reduced by 50%
Requirements +100%
Socketed (3)

on a Barb to get 150 snake stance.

tbone503 wrote:Also, curious why you're so confident the new single target skill will be so powerful?

Just based on experience.

Ekital wrote: Doom doesn't do anything as it doesn't reduce resistance on non-assassin characters.

Hi, sir. Is this true? First time heard about it.

cnlnjzfjb wrote:
Ekital wrote: Doom doesn't do anything as it doesn't reduce resistance on non-assassin characters.

Hi, sir. Is this true? First time heard about it.

needs a hard point synergy to activate the magic pierce, otherwise its just small amount of ttad

Crash wrote:
cnlnjzfjb wrote:
Ekital wrote: Doom doesn't do anything as it doesn't reduce resistance on non-assassin characters.

Hi, sir. Is this true? First time heard about it.

needs a hard point synergy to activate the magic pierce, otherwise its just small amount of ttad

Ty, so the doom proc on rare amulets and Black Hand Sigil ring has no pierce at all? Then what about the doom relic?

cnlnjzfjb wrote:Ty, so the doom proc on rare amulets and Black Hand Sigil ring has no pierce at all? Then what about the doom relic?

amulet and ring, correct has no pierce withuot a hard point in assassin doom.

the relic, i'm unsure since it's new, but the existing cotw before was the same thing. slvl still needed base point, so it was mostly ineffective.

Crash wrote:amulet and ring, correct has no pierce withuot a hard point in assassin doom.

the relic, i'm unsure since it's new, but the existing cotw before was the same thing. slvl still needed base point, so it was mostly ineffective.

Thx a lot!