Xbow Necromancer

Diesel11 wrote:why MO ED on weapon to 200%? can you go over it or you get diminishing returns?
in the guide it says get close to 200% and rest in AR or whatever else you need..
if i got a weapon already at 200% do i add more ED or go for AR ?

MOs can't go past 200 % ED for both Armor and Weapons, so thats why.

Also opinion on:

Ratbane

Ratbane
Heavy Crossbow (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (237 - 285) to (287 - 345)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 614
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
Adds (400 to 550)-(750 to 1000) Fire Damage
10% Mana stolen per Hit
-30% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
+(1 to 10) to Barrage
10% Chance of Crushing Blow
(30 to 40)% to Strength
1% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (6)

and even the Barrage oSkill as a possible midgame item and for those who don't have something like

Hwanin's Hwacha

Hwanin's Hwacha
Needle Crossbow (Sacred)
(Necromancer Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 244
Item Level: 105
Innate Fire Damage: (80.0% of Strength)
Alchemic Preparation: Flametail Shot gains +1 Projectile per 4 Base Levels
Flametail Shot Inherits Catapult Shot's Fire Damage
4% Chance to cast level 24 Flametail Shot on Striking
+5 to Necromancer Skill Levels
60% Attack Speed
Adds 250-350 Fire Damage
(5 to 12)% Innate Elemental Damage
+150 to Strength
-100 to Dexterity
Socketed (6)

Fracuz wrote:Hey guys, had some luck yesterday at crafting and these 2 cuties come along. By the way from 1 Shrine

My question: Which one would you prefer?
Right one come along with insane Phys DMG, higher than the other which is already Jah'd, but not mentionable adds.
Left one have Time Strike as proc, is that good? And good elemental dmg affix.

Both are already blessed with creepy shrine and Mo'd with AR and Max DMG.

two really decent xbows in my opinion. i remember when i got timestrike proc from the vizjun charm. i could feel a difference in farmspeed and also the single target kill speed of stationary targets. it is a solid proc, but might not be the best. dont waste your time in crafting something different. both are really solid weapons for single targets and before you make the transition to hwanins they should work like a charm for farming as well. they might not be perfect, but everything you will need.

tbh, hwanins is far superior for farming compared to any crafted xbow with any proc. i would preferably just craft something to kill single targets, so high damage is good enough. time strike proc is good for targets that are either stationary or dont move too much. as long as it can it them, its great.

Tartarus runeword or Starkiller which is better ? was watching some youtube guy use the runeword before getting his sacred crossbow

Jaxon wrote:
Fracuz wrote:Hey guys, had some luck yesterday at crafting and these 2 cuties come along. By the way from 1 Shrine

My question: Which one would you prefer?
Right one come along with insane Phys DMG, higher than the other which is already Jah'd, but not mentionable adds.
Left one have Time Strike as proc, is that good? And good elemental dmg affix.

Both are already blessed with creepy shrine and Mo'd with AR and Max DMG.

two really decent xbows in my opinion. i remember when i got timestrike proc from the vizjun charm. i could feel a difference in farmspeed and also the single target kill speed of stationary targets. it is a solid proc, but might not be the best. dont waste your time in crafting something different. both are really solid weapons for single targets and before you make the transition to hwanins they should work like a charm for farming as well. they might not be perfect, but everything you will need.

tbh, hwanins is far superior for farming compared to any crafted xbow with any proc. i would preferably just craft something to kill single targets, so high damage is good enough. time strike proc is good for targets that are either stationary or dont move too much. as long as it can it them, its great.

Exactly what I want. Already using Hwanin's for Farming. Looking for something good to do Boss Fights.

Thanks for your opninion :mrgreen:

How far can only t4 take you?

Diesel11 wrote:Tartarus runeword or Starkiller which is better ? was watching some youtube guy use the runeword before getting his sacred crossbow

Tartarus if in a sacred base. But if you got a sacred base, you'd be better off crafting it anyway.

frsmkre wrote:How far can only t4 take you?

Do you count the normal runewords in the same tier? If so, you can clear dunc pretty fine with basic TU/RW gear.

Moasseman wrote:
Diesel11 wrote:Tartarus runeword or Starkiller which is better ? was watching some youtube guy use the runeword before getting his sacred crossbow

Tartarus if in a sacred base. But if you got a sacred base, you'd be better off crafting it anyway.

frsmkre wrote:How far can only t4 take you?

Do you count the normal runewords in the same tier? If so, you can clear dunc pretty fine with basic TU/RW gear.

Seems like a great season starter then. I assume leveling with carnage/parasite > leveling xbow? I gave up on xbow at level 1 when flametail did no damage and carnage would 1 shot everything.

Moasseman wrote:
Overview

Weapon:
Hwanin's Hwacha
Hwanin's Hwacha
Needle Crossbow (Sacred)
(Necromancer Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 244
Item Level: 105
Innate Fire Damage: (80.0% of Strength)
Alchemic Preparation: Flametail Shot gains +1 Projectile per 4 Base Levels
Flametail Shot Inherits Catapult Shot's Fire Damage
4% Chance to cast level 24 Flametail Shot on Striking
+5 to Necromancer Skill Levels
60% Attack Speed
Adds 250-350 Fire Damage
(5 to 12)% Innate Elemental Damage
+150 to Strength
-100 to Dexterity
Socketed (6)
for farming, Crafted Stinger crossbow/
Buriza-Do Kyanon
Buriza-Do Kyanon
Heavy Crossbow (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (239 - 287) to (587 - 795)
Required Level: 120
Required Strength: 614
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
2% Chance to cast level 50 Blizzard on Striking
20% Attack Speed
Adds 2-(300 to 450) Damage
Ignore Target's Defense
Adds 350-400 Cold Damage
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
-50% to Enemy Cold Resistance
Socketed (6)
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Advent of Hatred
Advent of Hatred
Dart Thrower (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (272 - 355) to (465 - 608)
(Necromancer Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 1185 to 1580
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
Deathly Effigy: +1 Maximum Effigy Allowed
10% Chance to cast level 1 Bolt on Striking
30% Attack Speed
Adds (60 to 100)-(250 to 350) Damage
(75 to 150)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
20% to Strength
Requirements +(200 to 300)%
Socketed (6)
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Nihlathak's Bombard
Nihlathak's Bombard
Repeating Crossbow (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (204 - 221) to (314 - 386)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 670
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
Gematria
(Bonus per Socketed Great/Elemental Runes)
+30% Attack Speed
Adds 75-150 Fire Damage
+(5 to 6) to Necromancer Skill Levels
+(50 to 100) to Maximum Damage
Adds 450-900 Fire Damage
-(20 to 25)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(140 to 160)% Enhanced Damage
+20% to Summoned Minion Resistances
Socketed (6)
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Aether (Xis)
for singletarget bosses and less dense uberlevels like Teganze & Triune. Gonna be bold here and say that Hwanin is the bis weapon for farming stuff like Fauzt and Dunc. I would not use
Aether (Xis)
for general clearing cause of the proc interrupting attacks.
Stygian Fury
Stygian Fury
Trebuchet (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (305 - 363) to (490 - 624)
(Necromancer Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
Total Defense Reduced by 25%
+1% Deadly Strike per 6% Fire Spell Damage
3% Chance to cast level 63 Apocalypse on Kill
1% Chance to cast level 50 Funeral Pyre on Striking
Adds (70 to 100)-(200 to 300) Damage
-15% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(150 to 180)% Enhanced Damage
Slow Target 15%
Physical Resist 5%
Socketed (6)
is also a really solid weapon but if you plan on using it, you must have a source of Bloodlust and keep Burning Veil up.

so can we say which one is the strongest Boss/single target weapon of all ?
would it be a high roll crafted xbow ?
what about sockets - 6x Shaad and some MO or 6x Xis or custom jewels ?

Cant Decide with one to chose

, anyone can help? ^^
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Option 5 if you really wanna use one of those. Upgrade with 2-3x 15 % ED Mo´s. Reason: HIghest Damage and 40% IAs. The Fire Spell Damage does not do anything for you, because you do wepon damage, not spell damage. Only the - enemy fire resis is also useful.

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Option 8 was not shown before...so...yes, 5 or (maybe even better) option 8 - you may wanna check your IAS if you hit a new breakpoint with the 40% IAs of option 5. If not, go for 8.