Mana Sorceress Guide

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Hrishi
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Kinetickz wrote:guess I will benefit from a uber guide or at least a dungeon order that might make things easier will check out the guide in the comming weeks again since im a fan of the playstyle so far =)


I will be posting an update with uber bosses sometime this weekend, I've just been slammed with work this week, apologies!

Regarding tankiness, I'm not sure exactly what your stats are like, but assuming your damage is there do ensure you have solid defences from your gear. Of course physical resist helps, but 22% should be sufficient in many cases. If you're able to, upgrade over to sacred bases and MO with ED to help. If you haven't farmed Signets of Learning, definitely do so, they help mana sorcs a LOT. You can do this by killing Nihlathak over and over.
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Gunner wrote:
aamer43 wrote:Can anyone link their not armory? Would be great to see end game gear/Mo's etc. I tried looking up ladder characters but everyones melee Sorc

Wonder why. Is melee sorc better than mana sorc atm?

Mana sorc is better. Not much people play mana sorc because gears/umo are expensive



It's not just that the gear is expensive. It's that Mana Sorc, while fun and who doesn't love hurling bullet hell all over the place, is kinda like a collector's car with rare parts v/s a Honda that gets them to work. Leveling one without twinking, or a least having a secondary pile of gold for NRG MO's is kinda pulling teeth compared to other builds and I opted never to do it for a "first char" again. I started another one recently and realize that sure, ultimate clear speed at the end of the tunnel once things click is a great Pro, the cons like not having a move speed buff, power kinda tapping out earlier than some builds, and generally mediocre progression speed are enough to make this my "fun" character. I don't hate it, but the reality is I'm using 2 other characters to build it and it will sit in my "garage" as the Ferrari I wanna drive, but it's just not as good as my Maelstrom Sin or Melee sorc in any category right now.

That said I'm not here to poop on this guide or the build/class in general. It's a lot of fun! I just think a lot of people understand practical, fun and immediate access in totality are probably a bit more important than the kung fu master way of life where work equals ultimate power. I don't mind the work if it ends up worth it and this build does end up crazy.
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To be honest once you get valtheks staff you can level up yourself pretty darn good. When i got it and started doing k3k for some basic farm stuff i bought witchmoon, empyrean bands and it just got better and better. My gear at that moment was valtheks command, stillwater bone helm TU, queen of glass TU, eerie crafted boots, belt and gloves you can aswell choose to make them honorific if you want to, wtichmoon and two emp bands. About the charms tho.. Thats where things get rough if you dont have another char that can handle them on his own you gotta pay for them cuz some are hard to kill with a mana sorc if not geared good although i gotta say i can kill xazax and astrogha faster with my mana sorc than my hammerzon. Build has its own pros and cons. Overall like you said its a fun fast clearing build that i will always love.
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how would you rank celestial barrier on the shield choices?
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Ranked meh.. I think crafted would be better for defense
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I have updated the guide to include an uber section for the Mid-game (up to level 120, really). Still working on the Late-game section for Ubers, but by that point of the guide, you'll have a pretty good idea on how to tackle them. :)


sumiyaka wrote:It's not just that the gear is expensive. It's that Mana Sorc, while fun and who doesn't love hurling bullet hell all over the place, is kinda like a collector's car with rare parts v/s a Honda that gets them to work.

I really like this part of your post as it explain how a Mana Sorc is built extremely well. We have no full set for our spec, and our gear consists of random parts from all over, assembled together. As those "parts" become better and better, your character moves towards becoming an unstoppable death machine. However, I must disagree with the notion that Mana Sorc isn't possible as a first character. Yes, you won't be able to afford all the expensive and rare gear/UMOs, but honestly, you don't need them for the majority of the game. Of course, they'll make your build even better, but if you're already able to do almost all content in the game without them, how necessary were they in the first place?


I started playing during Sigma's launch after a long time away from Median. I started as a Mana Sorc (and it was my only character all season) and I was able to do almost every uberboss in the game (I only didn't do the last few like Laz, Samael, etc). Isn't that good enough for a starting character?

Chauthe wrote:how would you rank celestial barrier on the shield choices?

It's honestly not a bad shield, but the main issue is the heavy DEX requirement to use it. So much DEX naturally would mean you're losing base NRG, which results in a lot of lost damage due to a diminished mana pool. If you aren't giving up NRG to equip it, I'd definitely give it a try, but that sounds quite difficult to do!
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Hrishi wrote:
However, I must disagree with the notion that Mana Sorc isn't possible as a first character. Yes, you won't be able to afford all the expensive and rare gear/UMOs, but honestly, you don't need them for the majority of the game. Of course, they'll make your build even better, but if you're already able to do almost all content in the game without them, how necessary were they in the first place?



You were fair to read it that way. My intentions were to explain that some people are going to pick a path of least resistance and sometimes in games like this making "that guy you like that just chews through everything so you can gear up other things" is a strategy that some adapt to, hence some people not picking mana sorc out of the box. My time has been limited this season and I get a couple hours a night, so I opted in on this path of lazyness. I'm a guy that spent ages crafting Melee sorcs and bow necros in DO2 LOD so I know all about making anything work if you really want it to or enjoy it enough in the end.

Thanks for the work on your guide :)