Holy Melee Paladin

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Jilf82 wrote:What's the best way to regen mana for this build? I just hit 100 and have been messing around with it since I found a nice Malleus.


Early on, mana on attack. Later, mana leech. You really dont need regen.
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Istaryu wrote:Mana stolen per hit. There are 2 charms for a total of 10%, which is usually enough on most physical wdm builds. If its not, you can either mo some (which i dont recommend), or craft jewels with a ber rune.


Glamdring26 wrote:Early on, mana on attack. Later, mana leech. You really dont need regen.


Thank you both for the tips on restoring mana. I used mana leech rings and crafted jewels to get me past the hump to level 115.

Edit: I'm deleting my follow-up question on enhanced damage, as I found a thread that explains the enhanced damage cap.
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Glamdring26 wrote:
Jilf82 wrote:What's the best way to regen mana for this build? I just hit 100 and have been messing around with it since I found a nice Malleus.


Early on, mana on attack. Later, mana leech. You really dont need regen.


You definitely don't need regen . Even with spamming DJ, u'll stay full mana.
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Updated with 1.5 with the inclusion of How to Start the Season section.

Holy Melee is really good to start a league even though there wasnt any changes to it this patch. I suggest everyone to try it out at least once.

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Hello, what shrine should I use
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antonius wrote:Hello, what shrine should I use


For weapons Intimidating or Weird, for armors Creepy. This build doesnt need shrinecrafting though, cinadide set + runewords are enough to do all content up to 125.
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How many % deadly strike and how % crushing blow we are aiming for with end game gear?
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Why not go with a 1H setup now that Dragon Morph is gone?

I feel like having am 8 frame vs a 6 frame attack w/ weapon and shield would be a huge deal-breaker. You can make up the damage with other items and not even lose much damage if you have access to swords like Maleficence or a well rolled eth
Shark (Xis)
Shark
Weapons

'TaXis'
Runeword Level: 120
1% Chance to cast level 31 Bloodlust on Kill
+(60 to 100)% Bonus Damage to Bloodlust
40% Attack Speed
+200% Enhanced Damage
+2 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+5 to all Attributes
-500 to Mana
Cannot be Unsocketed
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Quaoar (Xis)
Quaoar
Paladin Clubs, Paladin Maces, Paladin Hammers

'SuXis'
Runeword Level: 120
20% Chance to cast level 36 Spiral Dance on Melee Attack
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
Adds 63-188 damage
Maximum Life 25%
Regenerate Mana +15%
+8 Life on Striking
Cannot Be Frozen
Cannot be Unsocketed
. Also gives you access to a shield like
Zohar (Xis)
Zohar
Paladin Shields

'ZoXis'
Runeword Level: 120
50% Attack Speed
+(100 to 125) to Maximum Damage
+(14 to 21) to Cherubim
+200% Enhanced Defense
(10 to 15)% Chance to Avoid Damage
Slows Attacker by 22%
-10% to All Vendor Prices
Cannot be Unsocketed
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Shadowmoon
Shadowmoon
Crown Shield (4)

Defense: (167 - 191) to (329 - 376)
Chance to Block: 2%
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 10
Required Dexterity: 43
Item Level: 17
5% Cast Speed
5% Attack Speed
+(4 to 5)% to Fire Spell Damage
+(4 to 5)% to Lightning Spell Damage
+(4 to 5)% to Cold Spell Damage
+(8 to 10)% to Summoned Minion Life
+(18 to 35)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Absorb 2%
Lightning Absorb 2%
Fire Absorb 2%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (535 - 594) to (983 - 1093)
Chance to Block: 2%
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 28
Required Dexterity: 64
Item Level: 32
10% Cast Speed
10% Attack Speed
+(8 to 9)% to Fire Spell Damage
+(8 to 9)% to Lightning Spell Damage
+(8 to 9)% to Cold Spell Damage
+(14 to 16)% to Summoned Minion Life
+(52 to 69)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Absorb 3%
Lightning Absorb 3%
Fire Absorb 3%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (1325 - 1439) to (2386 - 2590)
Chance to Block: 2%
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 45
Required Dexterity: 135
Item Level: 53
15% Cast Speed
15% Attack Speed
+(12 to 13)% to Fire Spell Damage
+(12 to 13)% to Lightning Spell Damage
+(12 to 13)% to Cold Spell Damage
+(20 to 22)% to Summoned Minion Life
+(87 to 103)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Absorb 4%
Lightning Absorb 4%
Fire Absorb 4%
Socketed (3)
Defense: (1968 - 2123) to (3529 - 3806)
Chance to Block: 2%
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 54
Required Dexterity: 280
Item Level: 90
15% Cast Speed
15% Attack Speed
+(14 to 15)% to Fire Spell Damage
+(14 to 15)% to Lightning Spell Damage
+(14 to 15)% to Cold Spell Damage
+(23 to 25)% to Summoned Minion Life
+(104 to 120)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Absorb 5%
Lightning Absorb 5%
Fire Absorb 5%
Socketed (4)
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Shield of Hakan II
Shield of Hakan II
Gothic Shield (Sacred)

Defense: (6995 - 7994) to (9190 - 10428)
Chance to Block: 1% + Class%
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 531
Required Dexterity: 619
Item Level: 105
-25% Cast Speed
1% Base Block Chance
-50% to Spell Damage
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+(2000 to 3000) Defense
Maximum Life (10 to 15)%
Maximum Elemental Resists +(0 to 2)%
Physical Resist 5%
Slows Attacker by 25%
Socketed (4)
(For Labs)
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Tokkie wrote:How many % deadly strike and how % crushing blow we are aiming for with end game gear?


Crushing blow is useless since it doesnt work on bosses. For ds, whatever you can get. Usually you have 10 from khazra, 5 from each ring and thats it. You can also mo some as well, so overall it should be something like %25.
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Ekital wrote:Why not go with a 1H setup now that Dragon Morph is gone?

I feel like having am 8 frame vs a 6 frame attack w/ weapon and shield would be a huge deal-breaker. You can make up the damage with other items and not even lose much damage if you have access to swords like Maleficence or a well rolled eth
Shark (Xis)
Shark
Weapons

'TaXis'
Runeword Level: 120
1% Chance to cast level 31 Bloodlust on Kill
+(60 to 100)% Bonus Damage to Bloodlust
40% Attack Speed
+200% Enhanced Damage
+2 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+5 to all Attributes
-500 to Mana
Cannot be Unsocketed
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Quaoar (Xis)
Quaoar
Paladin Clubs, Paladin Maces, Paladin Hammers

'SuXis'
Runeword Level: 120
20% Chance to cast level 36 Spiral Dance on Melee Attack
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
Adds 63-188 damage
Maximum Life 25%
Regenerate Mana +15%
+8 Life on Striking
Cannot Be Frozen
Cannot be Unsocketed
. Also gives you access to a shield like
Zohar (Xis)
Zohar
Paladin Shields

'ZoXis'
Runeword Level: 120
50% Attack Speed
+(100 to 125) to Maximum Damage
+(14 to 21) to Cherubim
+200% Enhanced Defense
(10 to 15)% Chance to Avoid Damage
Slows Attacker by 22%
-10% to All Vendor Prices
Cannot be Unsocketed
or
Shadowmoon
Shadowmoon
Crown Shield (4)

Defense: (167 - 191) to (329 - 376)
Chance to Block: 2%
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 10
Required Dexterity: 43
Item Level: 17
5% Cast Speed
5% Attack Speed
+(4 to 5)% to Fire Spell Damage
+(4 to 5)% to Lightning Spell Damage
+(4 to 5)% to Cold Spell Damage
+(8 to 10)% to Summoned Minion Life
+(18 to 35)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Absorb 2%
Lightning Absorb 2%
Fire Absorb 2%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (535 - 594) to (983 - 1093)
Chance to Block: 2%
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 28
Required Dexterity: 64
Item Level: 32
10% Cast Speed
10% Attack Speed
+(8 to 9)% to Fire Spell Damage
+(8 to 9)% to Lightning Spell Damage
+(8 to 9)% to Cold Spell Damage
+(14 to 16)% to Summoned Minion Life
+(52 to 69)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Absorb 3%
Lightning Absorb 3%
Fire Absorb 3%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (1325 - 1439) to (2386 - 2590)
Chance to Block: 2%
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 45
Required Dexterity: 135
Item Level: 53
15% Cast Speed
15% Attack Speed
+(12 to 13)% to Fire Spell Damage
+(12 to 13)% to Lightning Spell Damage
+(12 to 13)% to Cold Spell Damage
+(20 to 22)% to Summoned Minion Life
+(87 to 103)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Absorb 4%
Lightning Absorb 4%
Fire Absorb 4%
Socketed (3)
Defense: (1968 - 2123) to (3529 - 3806)
Chance to Block: 2%
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 54
Required Dexterity: 280
Item Level: 90
15% Cast Speed
15% Attack Speed
+(14 to 15)% to Fire Spell Damage
+(14 to 15)% to Lightning Spell Damage
+(14 to 15)% to Cold Spell Damage
+(23 to 25)% to Summoned Minion Life
+(104 to 120)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Absorb 5%
Lightning Absorb 5%
Fire Absorb 5%
Socketed (4)
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Shield of Hakan II
Shield of Hakan II
Gothic Shield (Sacred)

Defense: (6995 - 7994) to (9190 - 10428)
Chance to Block: 1% + Class%
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 531
Required Dexterity: 619
Item Level: 105
-25% Cast Speed
1% Base Block Chance
-50% to Spell Damage
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+(2000 to 3000) Defense
Maximum Life (10 to 15)%
Maximum Elemental Resists +(0 to 2)%
Physical Resist 5%
Slows Attacker by 25%
Socketed (4)
(For Labs)


1H is shit because there is no non-class spesific good 1h weapons in the game except samael sword. If you can get samael sword you can change your entire gear and go dex instead. You will have pretty much same damage but will also have %75 block and infinite attack rating. But apart from Maleficence, there is no weapon to contest the current choices. Neither of your suggested gear gets even close to the damage you do with current setup.