The MedianXL 2017 v1.3 SP Miniguides Compilation

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luckyflamingo wrote:I have tried the strategy you have suggested and it works sooooo much better now! However, I did try destruction fauzt just to see what would happen... I didn't make it 10 feet lol.

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I'm still getting used to the zon gameplay, I have the mid-level gear, and currently no meat shields. I also haven't MO'd anything yet

Do I need to have a different strategy for destruction fauzt? Or do I need to have the end game gear to be able to do destruction fauzt?

Thanks
you don't need better gear , what you have now is enough . make use of that spellbind and keep the strategy i have adviced since you also said that it has good results . take slow steps and fight a low number of opponents at the same time , while avoiding getting swarmed (if you see too many approaching , get back a few steps and fight just a few , then proceed further . the map surface is not flat , it has higher and lower places (stairs) , borders , walls - use a source of teleport whenever necessary - jitan's gate for example - to avoid getting stuck / jump away whenever necessary ) . You got tons of hp , good regen , low chance to be hit and 50%DR + spellbind to debuff opponents . if you get raped in the first 10 feet you must be doing something wrong . are you running ? make sure that you are not , as running turns your defense to zero .
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ChuckNoRis wrote:
luckyflamingo wrote:I have tried the strategy you have suggested and it works sooooo much better now! However, I did try destruction fauzt just to see what would happen... I didn't make it 10 feet lol.

Things to consider:
I'm still getting used to the zon gameplay, I have the mid-level gear, and currently no meat shields. I also haven't MO'd anything yet

Do I need to have a different strategy for destruction fauzt? Or do I need to have the end game gear to be able to do destruction fauzt?

Thanks
you don't need better gear , what you have now is enough . make use of that spellbind and keep the strategy i have adviced since you also said that it has good results . take slow steps and fight a low number of opponents at the same time , while avoiding getting swarmed (if you see too many approaching , get back a few steps and fight just a few , then proceed further . the map surface is not flat , it has higher and lower places (stairs) , borders , walls - use a source of teleport whenever necessary - jitan's gate for example - to avoid getting stuck / jump away whenever necessary ) . You got tons of hp , good regen , low chance to be hit and 50%DR + spellbind to debuff opponents . if you get raped in the first 10 feet you must be doing something wrong . are you running ? make sure that you are not , as running turns your defense to zero .


Okay I will try to take a few monsters at a time and practice more with the suggested strategy. No I'm not running, but I think I naturally end up attracting too many at once since I'm so used to my tank iron spiral Barb.

I did try terror fauzt for more practice and it went much better... I'm hoping I'll get better at using this char by practicing more. So far, a couple obsticles I'm running into is the void of archon summon dies within a couple hits and when I step on the health orb in destruction fauzt, the swarms deplete my hp faster than it can recover, implying that I'm attracting too many monsters at once. I think I'll keep doing terror fauzt and easier destruction dungeons until I master the game play of this char. Thanks!
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luckyflamingo wrote: I also haven't MO'd anything yet
i hope you got this covered . why would you not mo yet ? you should MO asap , i see no reason to wait .
luckyflamingo wrote:the void of archon summon dies within a couple hits and when I step on the health orb in destruction fauzt, the swarms deplete my hp faster than it can recover, implying that I'm attracting too many monsters at once.
you got no minion boosting gear so if the archon dies fast in an uber where the hits are heavy , it is no wonder . the archon can serve you well vs normal opponents , but not in there - actualy , i don't even think he's worth summoning in such ubers as he gets insta killed.

what ubers have you done up until now ? i got a strange feeling that you went there a bit too soon .

how much HP do you got ?
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ChuckNoRis wrote:
luckyflamingo wrote: I also haven't MO'd anything yet
i hope you got this covered . why would you not mo yet ? you should MO asap , i see no reason to wait .
luckyflamingo wrote:the void of archon summon dies within a couple hits and when I step on the health orb in destruction fauzt, the swarms deplete my hp faster than it can recover, implying that I'm attracting too many monsters at once.
you got no minion boosting gear so if the archon dies fast in an uber where the hits are heavy , it is no wonder . the archon can serve you well vs normal opponents , but not in there - actualy , i don't even think he's worth summoning in such ubers as he gets insta killed.

what ubers have you done up until now ? i got a strange feeling that you went there a bit too soon .

how much HP do you got ?


Tbh, she is twinked and has all of easy/medium Uber charms along with some hard/very hard Uber charms. My main goal is to try and find a fast farmer for fauzt and teganze so I quickly tried to get this char to mid-level to see how she does.

I haven't MO'd anything yet because I haven't researched the ias/fhr breakpoints so I didn't want to waste the MO yet.

My life is currently just below 12k. I have gems in all gear except the runeword weapon.

Any waht you said about archon makes total sense
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I have a sorc lvl 120 that i don't use actually

I really interested by you new mini guide about sorc mf .

Perhaps i could help you with it ? (i'm pretty newbie but it can be a + because guide a mostly follow by player like me)
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if you are making reference to the no. 54 miniguide in progress , i have left in stand-by since about 2 or 3 weeks ago . all she needs is a bit more testing on the and game gear , other than that she is done - real life kept me busy making preparations for the holidays , i also took a 1 week trip to Paris . i will probably have it finished next week .
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hey mr. noris :)

what an awesome guide compliation! Contains probably everything possible, detailed explainations... simply "wow!"
Thank you very much for it!

Sadly it will take time to try them all, just tried to save this compilation anyhow, but i had to make screenshots i guess? Or is there any easier way to save this anyhow (since i play 1.3 now through will all chars, and until i got the most of the SUs/interessting stuff), i read somewhere that there should be an special option in firefox, to save the hole thing?
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hello there , i haven't used Mozila much , i'm more into Chrome , but you should have some option of "save page as" - it will create a folder with all the web page content + a HTML document outside that folder which you may use to enter this page on offline mode . maby someone with more advanced knowledge of web pages can give you a more accurate answer , it's all i know .

with Sigma just around the corner , i'm not sure how all of this may help as it will be outdated in 2 weeks from now and the full update requires a huge work - it may take me a few months to have it all done if the changes will be major . My curent plan is to update the early-mid game sections asap as they require mostly TU'S /crafts/set parts or runewords (easy to get consumables) , while keeping the SU/XIS end game gearing /skillplan/strategy for later on , as it's enough to get most charms and do some decent farming without needing the end game part .
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i figured it out, its indeed "save as" - although it doesnt save the skill trees, but maybe with the most builds and explanations i will figure it out...
sigma will be interessting for sure. I guess your compilation mostly is up to date for all Median 2017s, since there where just a few changes? The older compilation which comes after your link is made at 2010, so is it for any "Median Omega"? or simply for the most older versions till 2010 (since Brother Laz Uberquest is listed)?
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dark-soul wrote: there where just a few changes?
a few? :lol:


median 2017 also came along with a full wipe , just as Sigma will , so besides starting over from zero , it was also full of new content and changes overall.it took me about 4 months to have most of it updated from XVI to 2017 ...
dark-soul wrote: The older compilation which comes after your link is made at 2010, so is it for any "Median Omega"? or simply for the most older versions till 2010 (since Brother Laz Uberquest is listed)?
the old compilation linked there has started in the patch 1.F9B and was constantly updated ever since (to the version you see today) with every new patch that came out (i only had 1 and a half years of pause -regequit- after Laz decided to abandon us for Skyrim) . it is linked there because that initial median website is no longer existing , it's just the web time machine blessing that keeps it accessible after so much time . the web archive time machine has registred the Omega version in that link , but you can use it to see other / older versions if you wish .