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sSs_xL wrote: Not sure how its worst for farming since i tested both and i shoot faster and it hits more than normal wyrmshot, even when wyrmshot has more damage rapid wyrmshot shoots a lot more and a lot faster, seems like replacing normal wyrmshot for rapid could be good.

i could be wrong but i tested both and seems like rapid wyrmshot just melts everything and can still use phalanx as well

Wyrmshot hits 10+ targets at once compared to rapid so it is much more effective for farming. At least in mid-endgame when your dmg spikes up.
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imo askarbydd beats everything i totally disagree with askarbydd doing less dmg.... on paper it does less but when playing it does heal faster and has more viability than normal wyrmshot i always do everything with RW if u check my armory i have 1 pt in wyrmshot

specially for bossing, the substain is 10000000000000000000 x times better


edit: Plus it has way more combo potential with on striking proc such angel of death+xorine rings , in for the kill and other stuff
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Rapid is good for bossing, but it's not good for Fauzt. That is my experience with it. If you can do a 6-7min clear using this route https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... le_Map.png I would concede to askarbydd. :P
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sSs_xL wrote:Not sure how its worst for farming since i tested both and i shoot faster and it hits more than normal wyrmshot, even when wyrmshot has more damage rapid wyrmshot shoots a lot more and a lot faster, seems like replacing normal wyrmshot for rapid could be good.

i could be wrong but i tested both and seems like rapid wyrmshot just melts everything and can still use phalanx as well


Wyrmshot hits 17 targets 2 times per sec. Rapid Wyrmshot hits 2 targets 13 times per sec. One is for farming the other bossing.

kikokiko wrote:imo askarbydd beats everything i totally disagree with askarbydd doing less dmg.... on paper it does less but when playing it does heal faster and has more viability than normal wyrmshot i always do everything with RW if u check my armory i have 1 pt in wyrmshot

specially for bossing, the substain is 10000000000000000000 x times better


edit: Plus it has way more combo potential with on striking proc such angel of death+xorine rings , in for the kill and other stuff


It's not really a matter of "on paper" or not. I tried a bunch of bosses with both askar and phalanx (kab, astro, uldy, spirit), and phalanx always killed them faster by almost twice the speed. For me, it always performed better when I tested them. I didn't pay attention to the sustain though, I'll take a look at this but i suspect phalanx has way better sustain because the wdm scaling is 140% instead of 75% and probably has more arrows hitting per sec than askar.

If you have some videos to show me comparing 117fcr phalanx craft vs askar to prove me wrong I am super open to look at them and change my mind. I know I've checked your stream here and there and saw you use askar in T10s. There might be a use for it there since phalanx is clunky to use in tight corridors.
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Wulf wrote:
sSs_xL wrote:Not sure how its worst for farming since i tested both and i shoot faster and it hits more than normal wyrmshot, even when wyrmshot has more damage rapid wyrmshot shoots a lot more and a lot faster, seems like replacing normal wyrmshot for rapid could be good.

i could be wrong but i tested both and seems like rapid wyrmshot just melts everything and can still use phalanx as well


Wyrmshot hits 17 targets 2 times per sec. Rapid Wyrmshot hits 2 targets 13 times per sec. One is for farming the other bossing.

kikokiko wrote:imo askarbydd beats everything i totally disagree with askarbydd doing less dmg.... on paper it does less but when playing it does heal faster and has more viability than normal wyrmshot i always do everything with RW if u check my armory i have 1 pt in wyrmshot

specially for bossing, the substain is 10000000000000000000 x times better


edit: Plus it has way more combo potential with on striking proc such angel of death+xorine rings , in for the kill and other stuff


It's not really a matter of "on paper" or not. I tried a bunch of bosses with both askar and phalanx (kab, astro, uldy, spirit), and phalanx always killed them faster by almost twice the speed. For me, it always performed better when I tested them. I didn't pay attention to the sustain though, I'll take a look at this.

If you have some videos to show me comparing 117fcr phalanx craft vs askar to prove me wrong I am super open to look at them and change my mind. I know I've checked your stream here and there and saw you use askar in T10s. There might be a use for it there since phalanx is clunky to use in tight corridors.


hmm maybe but when i play with askarbydd, i dont spam RW only , i cast 1 or 2 phalanx shoot RW and even barrage in between if the mob is in melee range, well timed u could have 3 active skills, plus it's more pratical

the only boss i dont use RW/switch bow is vs Baal and Xazax, it's doable but not recommend imo
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kikokiko wrote:hmm maybe but when i play with askarbydd, i dont spam RW only , i cast 1 or 2 phalanx shoot RW and even barrage in between if the mob is in melee range, well timed u could have 3 active skills, plus it's more pratical


That sounds cool, I'll try it out. Flexibility is always a good thing.
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using RW reminds me of OoA lol just spam and everything melts
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kikokiko wrote:imo askarbydd beats everything i totally disagree with askarbydd doing less dmg.... on paper it does less but when playing it does heal faster and has more viability than normal wyrmshot i always do everything with RW if u check my armory i have 1 pt in wyrmshot

specially for bossing, the substain is 10000000000000000000 x times better


edit: Plus it has way more combo potential with on striking proc such angel of death+xorine rings , in for the kill and other stuff

so 1 point in wyrmshot wont change RW ?
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sSs_xL wrote:
kikokiko wrote:imo askarbydd beats everything i totally disagree with askarbydd doing less dmg.... on paper it does less but when playing it does heal faster and has more viability than normal wyrmshot i always do everything with RW if u check my armory i have 1 pt in wyrmshot

specially for bossing, the substain is 10000000000000000000 x times better


edit: Plus it has way more combo potential with on striking proc such angel of death+xorine rings , in for the kill and other stuff

so 1 point in wyrmshot wont change RW ?


nope doesnt affect Wyrmshot

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