Poison Whirlwind Barb; A Comprehensive Guide (with 135 uber gear)

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Ekital
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Muilpeer wrote:
Ekital wrote:Going to give a little tip: try 2x
Blacktongue
Blacktongue
Flamberge (Sacred)

One-Hand Damage: (101 - 119) to (110 - 130)
Two-Hand Damage: (165 - 195) to (169 - 200)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength:
300
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
15% Chance to cast level 44 Rotting Flesh on Melee Attack
+25% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
+(120 to 160)% Enhanced Damage
+(40 to 60)% to Poison Spell Damage
-(20 to 35)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(14 to 20) to Amatoxin
Slow Target 15%
Maximum Poison Resist +(1 to 2)%
Requirements -50%
Socketed (6)
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Warmonger
Warmonger
Fanged Helm (Sacred)

Defense: (4347 - 4785) to (5010 - 5474)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 120
Area Effect Attack
Adds 100-200 Fire Damage
Adds 100-200 Lightning Damage
Adds 100-200 Cold Damage
+(160 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+(1500 to 2000) Defense
Elemental/Magic Damage Reduced by 40
10% Chance to Avoid Damage
Socketed (4)
and get 2K energy instead of full vit for MFing.

Also this build can do all ubers as well with slightly different gearing but I'll let you experiment instead of giving you all the solutions.


I wasn't aware that energy helps with MFing. Or am I misunderstanding this? I do have warmonger but still need a second Blacktongue to try it out.


Energy affects spell damage (Softcap is ~2000 Energy), Blacktongue procs deal significant damage with the Energy bonus.

Warmonger is there to help with applying more attacks/sec due to it's Area of effect allowing you to proc more 1 frame poison refreshes.
Antonelo
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I tried this build and so far so good :D
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I tried this build and so far so good :D


Damn, you're way past my dmg. I assume you have all endgame charms? (as I don't).

What is different in your build? Fully decked with Xith runes? lvl 140? Using bloodlust from merc to boost dmg? All stats rolled to max?
Antonelo
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Muilpeer wrote:
Damn, you're way past my dmg. I assume you have all endgame charms? (as I don't).

What is different in your build? Fully decked with Xith runes? lvl 140? Using bloodlust from merc to boost dmg? All stats rolled to max?


https://tsw.vn.cz/char/snapshot.php?cha ... 1633381522 have a look and I dont use any merc ...yet
Kukoshu
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This is mine version of it so far:

https://median-xl.com/char/Vento

Best build overalll clearspeed/budget build i've tried so far
Fautzville melts easily
Unfortunatly my wolf often behaves like a cat and goes where he pleases, so from time to time, although ww is quite slow moving, i have to resummon it.
Merc only gets in the way, not good to have one, i want the mobs at me all the time for faster clearing.

When i was squishier and was losing a lot of life in fautzville, i used
Feltongue
Feltongue
Great Sword (Sacred)

One-Hand Damage: 48 to 52
Two-Hand Damage: 79 to 81
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 670
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
Adds 300% of Crushing Blow as Fire and Cold Spell Damage
4% Chance to cast level 20 Pagan Rites on Death Blow
+(5 to 7) to All Skills
20% Movement Speed
-(10 to 20)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
-(10 to 20)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(2000 to 4000) Defense
Maximum Fire Resist +1%
Maximum Cold Resist +1%
Socketed (6)
in my offhand. Pagan rites proced often, healing me up, +defenses and max resists are very very good, and +6 to all skills gave a boost to amatoxin i think, and movement speed although makes u hit the enemy less times, makes u clear map faster, because i only need to hit them once.

Currently using
Grotesque Bite
Grotesque Bite
Hand Axe (Sacred)

One-Hand Damage: 37 to 39
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 376
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
+25% to Experience Gained Until Level 120
+15% Physical Resist After Level 120
100% Chance to cast level 40 Harvest on Melee Attack
+(2 to 3) to All Skills
50% Attack Speed
+(20 to 30)% to Poison Spell Damage
Maximum Poison Resist +4%
+100 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (3)
in my offhand because i still havent found another blacktongue or rune for rw. It doesnt fell like it has any downsides, damage goes up, phys resist is awesome, but its range may suck, dunno. Trying scosglen, but im not ready for it yet ;/

Ty for this guide, is being very good so far :)
Status_
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I wonder one thing, SnakeStance with bonus poison spell damage applies only to direct WW hits, WW splash damage does not use spell damage, correct?

Currently I am leveling my barb, so I do not have full experience, but when I do not enable snake stance it seems I deal similar damage. It seems like the most of the damage comes from rotting flesh / infected roots procs.
If so, maybe it is worth to give a try to put on some Energy / spell focus items, and make a full WW poison caster barb? :D
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Status_ wrote:I wonder one thing, SnakeStance with bonus poison spell damage applies only to direct WW hits, WW splash damage does not use spell damage, correct?

Currently I am leveling my barb, so I do not have full experience, but when I do not enable snake stance it seems I deal similar damage. It seems like the most of the damage comes from rotting flesh / infected roots procs.
If so, maybe it is worth to give a try to put on some Energy / spell focus items, and make a full WW poison caster barb? :D


This has been mentioned before indeed on adding Energy. But when you get a really high snake stance you are going to see a big difference. Snake stance sometimes turns off for me by itself and I do notice a big difference in DMG. I have the feeling that the splash damage does infect other enemies, also the proc from the helmet seems to spread poison?
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having 20k+ hp is better imo, just adding more spell% on gears/orb is enough dmg+ for procs atleast for farming areas like scos/fauzt .

- just wanna add
Scales of the Drake
Scales of the Drake
Ring Mail (Sacred)

Defense: (5239 - 5921) to (5764 - 6514)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 550
Item Level: 120
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
30% Cast Speed
+(25 to 38)% to Poison Spell Damage
-35% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(14 to 18) to Lorenado
+(115 to 143)% Enhanced Defense
+300 to Life
Maximum Poison Resist +5%
Physical Resist (5 to 10)%
Socketed (6)
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Mithridatism
Mithridatism
Gloves

'VenOhm'
Runeword Level: 100
Gain 20% of your Poison Resistance as Poison Length Reduction
+1 to All Skills
25% Hit Recovery
Adds 300-400 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
-(7 to 10)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(141 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
+10 to all Attributes
Poison Resist +25%
is a good gear set too.
1 pointer Shower of rocks/ thunder slam helps also on some situation.
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So imagine, if I *were to find a Golden Cycle, what would the ideal cycle look like for this barb?
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Ekital wrote:
Muilpeer wrote:
Ekital wrote:Going to give a little tip: try 2x
Blacktongue
Blacktongue
Flamberge (Sacred)

One-Hand Damage: (101 - 119) to (110 - 130)
Two-Hand Damage: (165 - 195) to (169 - 200)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength:
300
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
15% Chance to cast level 44 Rotting Flesh on Melee Attack
+25% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
+(120 to 160)% Enhanced Damage
+(40 to 60)% to Poison Spell Damage
-(20 to 35)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(14 to 20) to Amatoxin
Slow Target 15%
Maximum Poison Resist +(1 to 2)%
Requirements -50%
Socketed (6)
+
Warmonger
Warmonger
Fanged Helm (Sacred)

Defense: (4347 - 4785) to (5010 - 5474)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 120
Area Effect Attack
Adds 100-200 Fire Damage
Adds 100-200 Lightning Damage
Adds 100-200 Cold Damage
+(160 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+(1500 to 2000) Defense
Elemental/Magic Damage Reduced by 40
10% Chance to Avoid Damage
Socketed (4)
and get 2K energy instead of full vit for MFing.

Also this build can do all ubers as well with slightly different gearing but I'll let you experiment instead of giving you all the solutions.


I wasn't aware that energy helps with MFing. Or am I misunderstanding this? I do have warmonger but still need a second Blacktongue to try it out.


Energy affects spell damage (Softcap is ~2000 Energy), Blacktongue procs deal significant damage with the Energy bonus.

Warmonger is there to help with applying more attacks/sec due to it's Area of effect allowing you to proc more 1 frame poison refreshes.



Interesting, hadn't considered the AOE modifier helping like that ;-|