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Lynderika wrote:I did 4h30 to 120

4:20 :mweed: according to milestones stats
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Yeah bowa is very solid, I did all Ubers up to 130 ssf so far. It starts struggling in Scosglen with no gear though. I mean I can clear it and even kill druids, but its pretty slow.
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aahz wrote:
Lynderika wrote:I did 4h30 to 120

4:20 :mweed: according to milestones stats


haha
I counted real time, I guess in game only removed like 8 min. S&E time loss is real
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Lynderika wrote:
Diaco wrote:I'd argue against phys bowzon being tier 1.

While it's true that when properly geared she's one of the (if not THE) fastest farmers, the gear needed is by no means "SSF friendly". Even farming Duncraig at any reasonable speed requires you at least have an above average crafted bow, and true speed is only acquired when you craft a decently rolled
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'IgnElqIgnGulVex'
Runeword Level: 100
30% Chance to cast level 60 Flamestrike on Kill
60% Attack Speed
15% Cast Speed
+(50 to 430) to Maximum Damage
-(11 to 15)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
(1 to 25)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Cold Resist +(81 to 100)%
Cannot Be Frozen
. Even with the new Maiden Bow, getting one to drop requires quite a lot of farming on TA, as the drop rate for it is abysmal. Meanwhile other t1 starters can literally farm dunc in TUs


I might add that I absolutely do not know of a faster 1-120 than bowa. And it's not even close, other fast classes are pretty close to each others but bowa just owns all. I did 4h30 to 120 at season start without anyway training, my reaction ---> lmao

Yes the mastercraft bow drop chance is low, I dropped mine at level 127 -and I did ta since 116-, but even doing that it's leveling faster than others classes lol. Also you can just craft a reflex bow to do 120s if you're in a rush for some reason, while waiting for the for the bow to drop. But in any case the build can chill in ta until the first bow drop, then clear every <=130 ubers for free after getting the craft without ANY other investement. So yes, it is ssf friendly. Icebreaker is the biggest bait of the year and is irrelevant now.



guess I'm not good at it :/. Had a way, way faster and easier time with melee sorc and uhm
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I downloaded an excel sheet including detailed data of each bd performance, like SSF, BOSSING scores, but i cant find it anymore. where can i download it?
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In-depth section of the article. Link is in the second line titled "here".
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Lynderika wrote:
Diaco wrote:I'd argue against phys bowzon being tier 1.

While it's true that when properly geared she's one of the (if not THE) fastest farmers, the gear needed is by no means "SSF friendly". Even farming Duncraig at any reasonable speed requires you at least have an above average crafted bow, and true speed is only acquired when you craft a decently rolled
Ice Breaker




Ice Breaker
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'IgnElqIgnGulVex'
Runeword Level: 100
30% Chance to cast level 60 Flamestrike on Kill
60% Attack Speed
15% Cast Speed
+(50 to 430) to Maximum Damage
-(11 to 15)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
(1 to 25)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Cold Resist +(81 to 100)%
Cannot Be Frozen
. Even with the new Maiden Bow, getting one to drop requires quite a lot of farming on TA, as the drop rate for it is abysmal. Meanwhile other t1 starters can literally farm dunc in TUs


I might add that I absolutely do not know of a faster 1-120 than bowa. And it's not even close, other fast classes are pretty close to each others but bowa just owns all. I did 4h30 to 120 at season start without anyway training, my reaction ---> lmao

Yes the mastercraft bow drop chance is low, I dropped mine at level 127 -and I did ta since 116-, but even doing that it's leveling faster than others classes lol. Also you can just craft a reflex bow to do 120s if you're in a rush for some reason, while waiting for the for the bow to drop. But in any case the build can chill in ta until the first bow drop, then clear every <=130 ubers for free after getting the craft without ANY other investement. So yes, it is ssf friendly. Icebreaker is the biggest bait of the year and is irrelevant now.


Why is
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Ice Breaker
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'IgnElqIgnGulVex'
Runeword Level: 100
30% Chance to cast level 60 Flamestrike on Kill
60% Attack Speed
15% Cast Speed
+(50 to 430) to Maximum Damage
-(11 to 15)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
(1 to 25)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Cold Resist +(81 to 100)%
Cannot Be Frozen
a bait in your opinion? Is mastercrafted bow this better than above-average roll of ice breaker? And is additional 150 ias required to cap IAS worth this much?
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Why is
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Ice Breaker
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'IgnElqIgnGulVex'
Runeword Level: 100
30% Chance to cast level 60 Flamestrike on Kill
60% Attack Speed
15% Cast Speed
+(50 to 430) to Maximum Damage
-(11 to 15)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
(1 to 25)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Cold Resist +(81 to 100)%
Cannot Be Frozen
a bait in your opinion? Is mastercrafted bow this better than above-average roll of ice breaker? And is additional 150 ias required to cap IAS worth this much?



Well it's pretty simple, even a literal perfect Ice Breaker will have less damage than a decent maiden bow, do feel free to try. Bowa is a class without any ewd passive, so getting about the same damage but with a few hundred ewd on top is unbeatable. If the maiden also roll another good affix on top of damage, such as knife throw proc, ias or mf, then it's not even a comparaison. Also note that crafts has 6 open sockets, so 1-2k life from paragon.
The added ias is easy to get as bowa since she get 250 ias from passives alone, and when each additional ias gives ewd it's not a wasted stat anyway.

As far as I know the only two good end options for bowa are Maiden and Athuluhas wrath. Icebreaker and windforce are funny for their procs and usable but not amazing. Askarbydd and the set are pretty nice midgame, but in any cases it's better and easier to focus your time on crafting a maiden bow from the start than anything else.
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paolo12 wrote:In-depth section of the article. Link is in the second line titled "here".

many thx
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Lynderika wrote:
masochista wrote:
Why is
Ice Breaker




Ice Breaker
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'IgnElqIgnGulVex'
Runeword Level: 100
30% Chance to cast level 60 Flamestrike on Kill
60% Attack Speed
15% Cast Speed
+(50 to 430) to Maximum Damage
-(11 to 15)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
(1 to 25)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Cold Resist +(81 to 100)%
Cannot Be Frozen
a bait in your opinion? Is mastercrafted bow this better than above-average roll of ice breaker? And is additional 150 ias required to cap IAS worth this much?


As far as I know the only two good end options for bowa are Maiden and Athuluhas wrath. Icebreaker and windforce are funny for their procs and usable but not amazing. Askarbydd and the set are pretty nice midgame, but in any cases it's better and easier to focus your time on crafting a maiden bow from the start than anything else.


Valkyrie's Prime is by far the best bow for Bowzon.