Suggestions for upcoming patch

[Hiehvorak]

I wonder if sigma core would make it possible to make a whole new class

[robinro]

idk if this was posted before, but i would really like to have some kind of dummy npc/monster or whatever, where you can test your dmg.
you can attack it (it is unkillable and doesnt move obviously) and it displays your dps for a certain time period (idk maybe 5-10 seconds?)

[JSTM]

It would be interesting to add a mercenary to act 4 if it's even possible. I'm not sure what kind of fighter they would be but I want to see a new one.

[impbloody]

It would be interesting to add a mercenary to act 4 if it's even possible. I'm not sure what kind of fighter they would be but I want to see a new one.

Ive always thought since d2 went with the theme of mercenaries that occupy the area, some sort of fallen angel that had cursing abilities or amplify abilities

[Gekko64]

seems like one of the bot reanimates on the sssu quilted armor was replaced by rathma priest

[Rishab]

seems like one of the bot reanimates on the sssu quilted armor was replaced by rathma priest

Wut, show me a pic

[Gekko64]

not at home right now, will post later

[void]

i think it would be nice to have access to all the skills before the passive for the amazon. so you would still only get one passive, but you would have access to all skills that come before them

so for example you could make an enfiliade zon with dragonlore or a javazon that gets the bonus from bacchanalia for

Scar

, so it opens the door for new potential builds that are strong

under other conditions it would allow for 1pt in barrage while being in a caster spec to do a specific task that its convenient for (such as uldyssians baal, which needs to be hit with ow)

i understand that this makes respeccing and using oskills under specific conditions less palatable, since you can just use a skill from a tree that provides something you need, and it has the potential to break the game, moonbeam is quite a decent skill to have at all times, but overall it would be a change that id be excited to see since right now the path for amazons in terms of skilling is extremely linear compared with other classes and the kind of flexibility it would allow for sounds intriguing

[HechtHeftig]

moonbeam is quite a decent skill to have at all times, but overall it would be a change that id be excited to see since right now the path for amazons in terms of skilling is extremely linear compared with other classes and the kind of flexibility it would allow for sounds intriguing

I beg to disagree.

Look at Druid: 3 shapeshifting trees, 1 caster, 1 Bow and 1 Poison. All of them only benefit from only the 5 skills in the tree, + Pagan Rites and /or Elfin Weapons. If you're willing to spend some more points you get acid Fiends as well (but maxing 2 skills just for some summons who die instantly anyway... who does that?). That's even more linear.

Barb: Always uses a stance, always uses only 1 tree (melee, 2-hand, throw, spirit) and the rest is put into the general tree. Very linear as well.

Paladin: No matter what you do, it's the same (unholy always uses Storm Lord & Tainted Blood, Holy always uses Dragonheart & Incarnation). The only choice you have is which passive tree to use. And even then 3 skills are basically the same. (1 auto-hitting ability+ 1 passive for that only and 1 summon)

So you see, more than half of the characters are very limited in their specs. Amazon can at least decide whether to use summons, get lots of Defense and/or get lots of slow. And you can even decide how fast you run through the game.

[void]

moonbeam is quite a decent skill to have at all times, but overall it would be a change that id be excited to see since right now the path for amazons in terms of skilling is extremely linear compared with other classes and the kind of flexibility it would allow for sounds intriguing

I beg to disagree.

i in part agree, in part disagree with your criticisms.

its absolutely true that the standard builds will generally be the same every time, the variety of builds are limited by what is actually viable to use. so unless someone discovers a new build there will be strong overlap in what is actually played.

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however, barbarian, druid, assassin and necro have the ability to use all of their skills if you want them to.

so for example you decide to do yshari with totems but for baal you want to use 1pt voodoo shot? you can do that. no respec needed, 5 pts into the xbow tree and your plan is ready to be tested.

you want to do yshari with trap rat? for the physical immunes 1pt into rain of fire is quite helpful to have.

assassin, same deal, just with brother laz. some pts in singularity and/or fire trap along with the fighting spec and youre good to go.

barb, same deal, use throw spec, but have a sword on switch to dodge barrels in dunc and stormblast. or, if you want to, its possible to use axes on switch for thunderslam if you really want to cheese some ubers, no limitations in that regard.

honestly i cant think of a reason why on sorc you shouldnt be able to use all spells before the passives (still only get 2 passives but all spells before them, as proposed for the amazon), might need some repositioning of skills in some cases maybe (for example only have access to arachnomancy instead of lorenado, so they would need to be switched out), but overall... why not.

paladin, absolutely linear. however if you really want to use slayer for stun on a melee spec in some situation, you can.

amazon is pretty much limited to the tree she puts the pick-1-passive in. if you for any reason want put a point into 2 trees (like bow + java) then thats possible, but your char faces a lot of penalties that for the most part are a huge disadvantage compared with other classes that get their passives. its not necssisarily unviable to play neutralzon but its not like most other classes where you have a main spec and then invest like 5 extra points somewhere else and youre good to go.

its possible to argue that this is good game design, because it makes amazon special that you cant get passive + other tree, but at the same time its restricting beyond viability.

so, how about this: if this ever is tried, gets tested, and it turns out its way op or otherwise a bad idea, then im happy to leave amazon/sorc the way she is. before that i will advocate for it being tried and as far as i can tell you are not against the implimentation itself, rather its the concept of amazon being more restricted than other classes that you disagree with, right?