HechtHeftig wrote:void wrote:moonbeam is quite a decent skill to have at all times, but overall it would be a change that id be excited to see since right now the path for amazons in terms of skilling is extremely linear compared with other classes and the kind of flexibility it would allow for sounds intriguing
I beg to disagree.
i in part agree, in part disagree with your criticisms.
its absolutely true that the standard builds will generally be the same every time, the variety of builds are limited by what is actually viable to use. so unless someone discovers a new build there will be strong overlap in what is actually played.
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however, barbarian, druid, assassin and necro have the ability to use all of their skills if you want them to.
so for example you decide to do yshari with totems but for baal you want to use 1pt voodoo shot? you can do that. no respec needed, 5 pts into the xbow tree and your plan is ready to be tested.
you want to do yshari with trap rat? for the physical immunes 1pt into rain of fire is quite helpful to have.
assassin, same deal, just with brother laz. some pts in singularity and/or fire trap along with the fighting spec and youre good to go.
barb, same deal, use throw spec, but have a sword on switch to dodge barrels in dunc and stormblast. or, if you want to, its possible to use axes on switch for thunderslam if you really want to cheese some ubers, no limitations in that regard.
honestly i cant think of a reason why on sorc you shouldnt be able to use all spells before the passives (still only get 2 passives but all spells before them, as proposed for the amazon), might need some repositioning of skills in some cases maybe (for example only have access to arachnomancy instead of lorenado, so they would need to be switched out), but overall... why not.
paladin, absolutely linear. however if you really want to use slayer for stun on a melee spec in some situation, you can.
amazon is pretty much limited to the tree she puts the pick-1-passive in. if you for any reason want put a point into 2 trees (like bow + java) then thats possible, but your char faces a lot of penalties that for the most part are a huge disadvantage compared with other classes that get their passives. its not necssisarily unviable to play neutralzon but its not like most other classes where you have a main spec and then invest like 5 extra points somewhere else and youre good to go.
its possible to argue that this is good game design, because it makes amazon special that you cant get passive + other tree, but at the same time its restricting beyond viability.
so, how about this: if this ever is tried, gets tested, and it turns out its way op or otherwise a bad idea, then im happy to leave amazon/sorc the way she is. before that i will advocate for it being tried and as far as i can tell you are not against the implimentation itself, rather its the concept of amazon being more restricted than other classes that you disagree with, right?