Syphery wrote:Ekital wrote:Syphery wrote:so youre basically telling me paly is better than zon for lazy ppl who dont wanna bother optimizing their character properly? cuz no endgame character ever has actual issues with requirements or breakpoints at all and i wouldnt call being able to stack 420 umos without caring bout requirements a strong point cuz there r barely people out there who actually put umos only on all their available slots, even in endgame. the only fair point i see here is the free phy res, which zon can obtain elsewhere instead of the tree.
No I'm saying that pally is better for 90% of the people out there. How are you reaching your 90% res caps, 50% phys res, ef cap, fhr,fcr breakpoints and 25k life without investing basically equivalent investment to 10 UMOs (60 TG x 10 ~= 600 TG worth of UMOs) on your gear as zon.
Let's be straight you're not being very honest here about the amount of TG/work you have to invest to reach that.
fhr gets capped by wild and free since dawn has the points, fcr gets coverd by the normal gear alone. res by dreamflange+golden chariot+gems alone, these items r literally almost for free even at the start of a ladder. phys res is pretty simple : u dont cap it, u have meatshields with a shitton of hp and fire absorb which is REALLY usefull for labs since a majority of the enemys consist of harpys
Okay so let's break this down:
FHR Capped by wild and free - Great this seems reasonable sure
FCR gets capped by normal gear alone - Dreamflange = 50%, Golden chariot = 0%, Gems for res capping/ghals from shield = 0%, Charms = 35% (+10% from trophy) where's the rest coming from?
I see about 85% here you will need another 78% from another source
EF gets capped by what? - Gems for res capping = 0, Dreamflange = 75, golden chariot = 90 EF (if using Ghals which is another lets say 10 TG each at start of season), Sleep charm = +50 and 5% bonus , Rest of charms = 80 EF
I see about 309.75 EF you will need at least another 250-300 EF to even hope to reach cap.
Resistances gets capped by what - Assuming you're running full resistances gems on other items you will receive a total of (20) sockets, if you have perfect kab charm and azmo charm your max res is 85%. That leaves you exactly (20) of those available gem slots of which you're losing a total of 60% spell damage and 300 EF.
Phys resistance doesn't get capped you even said so yourself.
Paladin doesn't have to worry about ANY of this basically. He only cares for the resistances which can be capped the same way that amazon caps it, replace dreamflange with hierodule and shield with Wheel of fortune. The difference being that Paladin gets to use his shield sockets for spell damage. A lot of your gear as amazon will have to sacrifice spell damage and other useful stats while Paladin does not. That is the difference, the investment time to get a slight advantage over Paladin is not worth it. Also as I said if you really want to push the character, Paladin will end up winning over amazon due to pure flexibility in gearing.