Short Questions Thread

[PodolskyV]

And what about pouncezon? How strong or weak it compared to ww? WW does't have elemental damage, except force of nature, which add too low dmg and redudant without some elemental procs.

[Stealthmaster]

WW farms faster than a pouncezon but is a bit squishier. Pouncezon usually cannot die in 1 sec if she's surrounded by a pack of Slain Souls after you failed to pounce to a safer place, for example. On the other hand, WW can afford a lot of LaeK, thus it makes him a perfect char to farm Unformed Land. Pouncezon cannot do this because she relies on leech which does not work in there.

[Keywing]

So before I make the staff, I'm curious

With Amnxis RW and Black dwarf and other +skills I believe it is possible to get Supernova to over level 100

My question is, has anyone done this? What is the mana cost at that level?

I'm very afraid that it'll be somewhere around 1800 to 2000 mana per cast.



Another question, I see other UHC pallys running 14k+ mana but even with full energy build I can't even break 8k
Am I missing something?

[noal]

So before I make the staff, I'm curious

With Amnxis RW and Black dwarf and other +skills I believe it is possible to get Supernova to over level 100

My question is, has anyone done this? What is the mana cost at that level?

I'm very afraid that it'll be somewhere around 1800 to 2000 mana per cast.

I am not really sure about the real number, but you are correct: Supernova itself is a insanely mana-consuming spell, especially with superbeast cast rate. 100+ lvl only makes that worse.

Another question, I see other UHC pallys running 14k+ mana but even with full energy build I can't even break 8k
Am I missing something?

You just dont have enough charm I guess, like + %max mana, + %energy and + energy, and + maximum skill lvl for stormlord. I have like 18k mana investing all into energy with normal gear

WW farms faster than a pouncezon but is a bit squishier. Pouncezon usually cannot die in 1 sec if she's surrounded by a pack of Slain Souls after you failed to pounce to a safer place, for example. On the other hand, WW can afford a lot of LaeK, thus it makes him a perfect char to farm Unformed Land. Pouncezon cannot do this because she relies on leech which does not work in there.

WW druid is currently the OP char that needs nerf. He is not squishier than pouncezon- he has 50% avoid melee attack. I run him in dunc 0 def no problem. Harbinger has greater aoe than pounce and hits more. Huge Laek. And most notably ww can reach insane atk speed, whereas pouncezon best fpa is 10 frame which is really slow.

[PodolskyV]

So before I make the staff, I'm curious

With Amnxis RW and Black dwarf and other +skills I believe it is possible to get Supernova to over level 100

My question is, has anyone done this? What is the mana cost at that level?

I'm very afraid that it'll be somewhere around 1800 to 2000 mana per cast.

I am not really sure about the real number, but you are correct: Supernova itself is a insanely mana-consuming spell, especially with superbeast cast rate. 100+ lvl only makes that worse.

Another question, I see other UHC pallys running 14k+ mana but even with full energy build I can't even break 8k
Am I missing something?

You just dont have enough charm I guess, like + %max mana, + %energy and + energy, and + maximum skill lvl for stormlord. I have like 18k mana investing all into energy with normal gear

WW farms faster than a pouncezon but is a bit squishier. Pouncezon usually cannot die in 1 sec if she's surrounded by a pack of Slain Souls after you failed to pounce to a safer place, for example. On the other hand, WW can afford a lot of LaeK, thus it makes him a perfect char to farm Unformed Land. Pouncezon cannot do this because she relies on leech which does not work in there.

WW druid is currently the OP char that needs nerf. He is not squishier than pouncezon- he has 50% avoid melee attack. I run him in dunc 0 def no problem. Harbinger has greater aoe than pounce and hits more. Huge Laek. And most notably ww can reach insane atk speed, whereas pouncezon best fpa is 10 frame which is really slow.

You should have realy huge DPS to do dunc with 0 def.

[noal]

You should have realy huge DPS to do dunc with 0 def.

Not really , 50% innate melee attack avoid + some %dr + enough fhr. It's easier than it sounds, because in dunc the number of enemy that can touch you at the same time is smal. Def becomes really crucial in Tran and Fauz where attacks are range and 6522526 of them hit you at the same time

[Scalewinged]

Supernova lvl 113 have mana cost of 2073 confirmed

[Muilpeer]

Long time ago I used to play a Pouncessin, is that build still possible to make? I don't see any mention of pounce on items in any of the documentation, I remember the pounce came from +X to pounce on a Naginata.

Pouncesin is viable on TSW, but the only option, imo, is to level a throwsin up to the endgame, then buy a secret sacred unique naginata which has pounce oskill and do some respec.

People play a werewolf druid which has a skill similar to pounce. It's a char strong enough to farm most ubers for different items. All these makes WW very similar to 1F9 pouncesin build.

You mention leveling a throwsin, however, I noticed that the build I planned (Meshifs iron Parrot + Broadside) doesn't work because the skill lockout is like half a minute continuously.

I tried making ATMG (couldn't find any guides on ATMG though) with the meshifs but this doesn't seem to proc the Broadside from Meshif's Iron Parrot so basically I'm very much confused.

[hellgrind]

@up
Here u have an ATMG guide http://www.medianxl.com/t669-v6d-the-ki ... rney#12932

[PodolskyV]

It's a bit outdated. ATMG-assa now able to do only basic ubers that every char can do easily.