Overkill Throw Barb

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vechlereduard wrote:Hello all, I am new here. Thank you for your guide, nice job. I want to try this kind of warior. I want to ask you why you pick rune master skill and not gladiator dominance skill? It seems gladiator dominance is build exclusively for throwing barb, damage increase more like lion stance, attack speed and move speed increse more and you can pick bear stance for defence. Not mentioned about life steal who is vitaly for this buid. Life steal cant find in rune (if you use rune mastery, then must use runes), but you can craft some jewels with life and mana steal properties.

gladiator dominance is NOT build exclusively for throwing barb. Can be used with 1hand sword or axe
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Bliyadolubov wrote:
vechlereduard wrote:Hello all, I am new here. Thank you for your guide, nice job. I want to try this kind of warior. I want to ask you why you pick rune master skill and not gladiator dominance skill? It seems gladiator dominance is build exclusively for throwing barb, damage increase more like lion stance, attack speed and move speed increse more and you can pick bear stance for defence. Not mentioned about life steal who is vitaly for this buid. Life steal cant find in rune (if you use rune mastery, then must use runes), but you can craft some jewels with life and mana steal properties.

gladiator dominance is NOT build exclusively for throwing barb. Can be used with 1hand sword or axe


No it cant. You still need to stack a decent amount of dex for block, and those scale with str. You are just shooting yourself in the foot if you do that.
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Istaryu wrote:
Bliyadolubov wrote:
vechlereduard wrote:Hello all, I am new here. Thank you for your guide, nice job. I want to try this kind of warior. I want to ask you why you pick rune master skill and not gladiator dominance skill? It seems gladiator dominance is build exclusively for throwing barb, damage increase more like lion stance, attack speed and move speed increse more and you can pick bear stance for defence. Not mentioned about life steal who is vitaly for this buid. Life steal cant find in rune (if you use rune mastery, then must use runes), but you can craft some jewels with life and mana steal properties.

gladiator dominance is NOT build exclusively for throwing barb. Can be used with 1hand sword or axe


No it cant. You still need to stack a decent amount of dex for block, and those scale with str. You are just shooting yourself in the foot if you do that.

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Gladiator's Dominance is totally fine for 1h barb in the late game... Gilded Shield is plenty of defense, and 6% base block means you only need like 3500 dex for max block (or ~2300 for 50%), and that dex takes care of your AR too. Don't forget you're able to run jewels instead of runes and get all the bonuses from those, too.
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Istaryu wrote:
Bliyadolubov wrote:
vechlereduard wrote:Hello all, I am new here. Thank you for your guide, nice job. I want to try this kind of warior. I want to ask you why you pick rune master skill and not gladiator dominance skill? It seems gladiator dominance is build exclusively for throwing barb, damage increase more like lion stance, attack speed and move speed increse more and you can pick bear stance for defence. Not mentioned about life steal who is vitaly for this buid. Life steal cant find in rune (if you use rune mastery, then must use runes), but you can craft some jewels with life and mana steal properties.

gladiator dominance is NOT build exclusively for throwing barb. Can be used with 1hand sword or axe


No it cant. You still need to stack a decent amount of dex for block, and those scale with str. You are just shooting yourself in the foot if you do that.


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Siosilvar wrote:Gladiator's Dominance is totally fine for 1h barb in the late game... Gilded Shield is plenty of defense, and 6% base block means you only need like 3500 dex for max block (or ~2300 for 50%), and that dex takes care of your AR too. Don't forget you're able to run jewels instead of runes and get all the bonuses from those, too.


3500 is quite a significant investment. You have to invest many item slots for that kind of dex, which will leave you with how much str? Whereas if you just use a 2hander, you will have like double the dmg compared to a glad dominance 1h build. AR isnt that much an issue at higher lvls since you do get a lot of flat dex and some ar from charms, and there are other of easy sources, so there is absolutely no need to go nuts for ar.

Anyways, back to topic:
vechlereduard wrote:Hello all, I am new here. Thank you for your guide, nice job. I want to try this kind of warior. I want to ask you why you pick rune master skill and not gladiator dominance skill? It seems gladiator dominance is build exclusively for throwing barb, damage increase more like lion stance, attack speed and move speed increse more and you can pick bear stance for defence. Not mentioned about life steal who is vitaly for this buid. Life steal cant find in rune (if you use rune mastery, then must use runes), but you can craft some jewels with life and mana steal properties.


Runemaster is definetly usable, if you want to get tankier, but glad dominance is definetly a great choice. I think the time when the guide was written, glad dominance was just garbage because the added dmg was too low, probably thats why its not recommended, but it has been buffed since then. It works even better if you have
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(Barbarian Warmonger Set)

Hunter's Camouflage
Hunter's Claw Fist
Hunter's Skin
Hunter's Trackless Step

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
6% Life stolen per Hit
50% Bonus to Defense

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
Adds 25-50 Damage
6% Life stolen per Hit

Set Bonus with complete set:
4% Chance to cast level 13 Blast Wave on Kill
+4 to Barbarian Skill Levels
8% Life stolen per Hit
Maximum Life +10%
Maximum Poison Resist +5%
Poison Length Reduced by 75%
Physical Resist 10%

or
Ophiophagus
Ophiophagus
Balanced Axe (Sacred)

Throw Damage: (224 - 279) to (287 - 348)
One-Hand Damage: (130 - 156) to (198 - 231)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 120
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.14 per Strength)%
-1% to Enemy Poison Resist per 1% Block Chance
15% of Dexterity added as Weapon Physical Damage
+5 to Barbarian Skill Levels
Adds 45-90 Damage
+(130 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
Maximum Life +5%
Maximum Poison Resist +2%
Maximum Block Chance +10%
Requirements -100%
Socketed (6)
because they convert throw barb into dex based which is great for block. This dex conversion didnt exist either back then, so your only choice was str build, which didnt really work well with block, so one more reason why it was unpopular. About stances, the guide hasnt been updated for a long time (2+ years), since then lion stance has been nerfed a lot, and wolf stance buffed, so you 100% want to use wolf stance, its just way too good to not use. Also, eagle stance doesnt have lifesteal anymore.
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I think dex/poison throw barb could work with
Ophiophagus
Ophiophagus
Balanced Axe (Sacred)

Throw Damage: (224 - 279) to (287 - 348)
One-Hand Damage: (130 - 156) to (198 - 231)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 120
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.14 per Strength)%
-1% to Enemy Poison Resist per 1% Block Chance
15% of Dexterity added as Weapon Physical Damage
+5 to Barbarian Skill Levels
Adds 45-90 Damage
+(130 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
Maximum Life +5%
Maximum Poison Resist +2%
Maximum Block Chance +10%
Requirements -100%
Socketed (6)
,
Triune's Blessing

Triune's Blessing
Barbarian Shields

'VenSilVenSil'
Runeword Level: 100
+(1 to 2) to Barbarian Skill Levels
1% Base Block Chance
Adds 10-15 Damage
250% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 313-508 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+10% to Poison Spell Damage
-30% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(171 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
Maximum Poison Resist +2%
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Skull of the Viz-Jaq'taar
Skull of the Viz-Jaq'taar
Skull Cap (Sacred)

Defense: 746 to 789
Required Level: 100
Required Strength:
275
Item Level: 120
Scorpion Blade: +2 Projectiles
5% Chance to cast level 40 Scorpion Blade on Kill
+(0 to 1) to Assassin Skill Levels
-(21 to 30)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
-500 Defense
+50 to Dexterity
(11 to 20)% to Dexterity
20% Magic Find
Requirements -50%
Socketed (4)
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Scales of the Serpent
Scales of the Serpent
Gothic Plate (Sacred)

Defense: (7481 - 8308) to (9074 - 10078)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 675
Item Level: 105
15% Chance to cast level 40 Arachnomancy on Melee Attack
4% Chance to cast level 12 Time Strike on Striking
(31 to 40)% Hit Recovery
+90% Damage to Undead
Adds 200-300 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
-35% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(25 to 30)%
+(144 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
+100 to Strength
+50 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (6)
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Black Void
Black Void
Heavy Belt (Sacred)

Defense: (3060 - 3442) to (3304 - 3717)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 625
Item Level: 120
20% Attack Speed
Adds 10-15 Damage
(10 to 15)% Life stolen per Hit
Slow Target 10%
+(140 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
10% to Strength
10% to Dexterity
Target Takes Additional Damage of (25 to 50)
30% Magic Find
Socketed (2)
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Blind Anger
Blind Anger
Light Gauntlets (Sacred)

Defense: (1179 - 1447) to (1342 - 1647)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 600
Item Level: 105
8% Chance to cast level 13 Crucify on Melee Attack
+(0 to 1) to All Skills
(1 to 5)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Blinds Attacker +3
+(120 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
(11 to 15)% to All Attributes
Socketed (4)
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Craton (Xis)
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Beads of the Snake Queen
Beads of the Snake Queen
Amulet

Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
4% Chance to cast level 33 Scorpion Blade on Kill
Adds 5-10 Damage
Stun Attack
+(200 to 500) Defense
(20 to 25)% to Strength
(20 to 25)% to Dexterity
+100 Life after each Kill
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Sigil of Tur Dulra
Sigil of Tur Dulra
Ring

Required Level: 100
Item Level: 105
+(1 to 2) to Druid Skill Levels
+(15 to 20)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
20% Cast Speed
-(1 to 10)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Elemental Resists +(20 to 25)%
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Empyrean Glory
Empyrean Glory
Ring

Required Level: 50
Item Level: 120
1% Chance to cast level 40 Singularity on Kill
(6 to 10)% to All Attributes
Maximum Life +5%
Maximum Mana +15%
15% Gold Find
, and all 120 charm. Both to reach high enough dex and -poison resist, but I don't think it's performance better than physical version.
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Hiehvorak wrote:I think dex/poison throw barb could work with
Ophiophagus
Ophiophagus
Balanced Axe (Sacred)

Throw Damage: (224 - 279) to (287 - 348)
One-Hand Damage: (130 - 156) to (198 - 231)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 120
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.14 per Strength)%
-1% to Enemy Poison Resist per 1% Block Chance
15% of Dexterity added as Weapon Physical Damage
+5 to Barbarian Skill Levels
Adds 45-90 Damage
+(130 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
Maximum Life +5%
Maximum Poison Resist +2%
Maximum Block Chance +10%
Requirements -100%
Socketed (6)
,
Triune's Blessing

Triune's Blessing
Barbarian Shields

'VenSilVenSil'
Runeword Level: 100
+(1 to 2) to Barbarian Skill Levels
1% Base Block Chance
Adds 10-15 Damage
250% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 313-508 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+10% to Poison Spell Damage
-30% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(171 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
Maximum Poison Resist +2%
,
Skull of the Viz-Jaq'taar
Skull of the Viz-Jaq'taar
Skull Cap (Sacred)

Defense: 746 to 789
Required Level: 100
Required Strength:
275
Item Level: 120
Scorpion Blade: +2 Projectiles
5% Chance to cast level 40 Scorpion Blade on Kill
+(0 to 1) to Assassin Skill Levels
-(21 to 30)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
-500 Defense
+50 to Dexterity
(11 to 20)% to Dexterity
20% Magic Find
Requirements -50%
Socketed (4)
,
Scales of the Serpent
Scales of the Serpent
Gothic Plate (Sacred)

Defense: (7481 - 8308) to (9074 - 10078)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 675
Item Level: 105
15% Chance to cast level 40 Arachnomancy on Melee Attack
4% Chance to cast level 12 Time Strike on Striking
(31 to 40)% Hit Recovery
+90% Damage to Undead
Adds 200-300 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
-35% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(25 to 30)%
+(144 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
+100 to Strength
+50 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (6)
,
Black Void
Black Void
Heavy Belt (Sacred)

Defense: (3060 - 3442) to (3304 - 3717)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 625
Item Level: 120
20% Attack Speed
Adds 10-15 Damage
(10 to 15)% Life stolen per Hit
Slow Target 10%
+(140 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
10% to Strength
10% to Dexterity
Target Takes Additional Damage of (25 to 50)
30% Magic Find
Socketed (2)
,
Blind Anger
Blind Anger
Light Gauntlets (Sacred)

Defense: (1179 - 1447) to (1342 - 1647)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 600
Item Level: 105
8% Chance to cast level 13 Crucify on Melee Attack
+(0 to 1) to All Skills
(1 to 5)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Blinds Attacker +3
+(120 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
(11 to 15)% to All Attributes
Socketed (4)
,
Craton (Xis)
,
Beads of the Snake Queen
Beads of the Snake Queen
Amulet

Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
4% Chance to cast level 33 Scorpion Blade on Kill
Adds 5-10 Damage
Stun Attack
+(200 to 500) Defense
(20 to 25)% to Strength
(20 to 25)% to Dexterity
+100 Life after each Kill
,
Sigil of Tur Dulra
Sigil of Tur Dulra
Ring

Required Level: 100
Item Level: 105
+(1 to 2) to Druid Skill Levels
+(15 to 20)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
20% Cast Speed
-(1 to 10)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Elemental Resists +(20 to 25)%
,
Empyrean Glory
Empyrean Glory
Ring

Required Level: 50
Item Level: 120
1% Chance to cast level 40 Singularity on Kill
(6 to 10)% to All Attributes
Maximum Life +5%
Maximum Mana +15%
15% Gold Find
, and all 120 charm. Both to reach high enough dex and -poison resist, but I don't think it's performance better than physical version.


I used the gloves with amazon ultimate skill. More dex!
And Also windrunner boots for more AR. Also used another armor, the same base as sots But ssu, barb need the extra phys res and good tankers. Also psn dmg is better cuz spell dmg increase. Has -199 psn res. Well over 140 k dmg with barb helm oskill (time wave) everything dies on and off screen.
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Berkabus1 wrote:
Hiehvorak wrote:I think dex/poison throw barb could work with
Ophiophagus
Ophiophagus
Balanced Axe (Sacred)

Throw Damage: (224 - 279) to (287 - 348)
One-Hand Damage: (130 - 156) to (198 - 231)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 120
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.14 per Strength)%
-1% to Enemy Poison Resist per 1% Block Chance
15% of Dexterity added as Weapon Physical Damage
+5 to Barbarian Skill Levels
Adds 45-90 Damage
+(130 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
Maximum Life +5%
Maximum Poison Resist +2%
Maximum Block Chance +10%
Requirements -100%
Socketed (6)
,
Triune's Blessing

Triune's Blessing
Barbarian Shields

'VenSilVenSil'
Runeword Level: 100
+(1 to 2) to Barbarian Skill Levels
1% Base Block Chance
Adds 10-15 Damage
250% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 313-508 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+10% to Poison Spell Damage
-30% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(171 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
Maximum Poison Resist +2%
,
Skull of the Viz-Jaq'taar
Skull of the Viz-Jaq'taar
Skull Cap (Sacred)

Defense: 746 to 789
Required Level: 100
Required Strength:
275
Item Level: 120
Scorpion Blade: +2 Projectiles
5% Chance to cast level 40 Scorpion Blade on Kill
+(0 to 1) to Assassin Skill Levels
-(21 to 30)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
-500 Defense
+50 to Dexterity
(11 to 20)% to Dexterity
20% Magic Find
Requirements -50%
Socketed (4)
,
Scales of the Serpent
Scales of the Serpent
Gothic Plate (Sacred)

Defense: (7481 - 8308) to (9074 - 10078)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 675
Item Level: 105
15% Chance to cast level 40 Arachnomancy on Melee Attack
4% Chance to cast level 12 Time Strike on Striking
(31 to 40)% Hit Recovery
+90% Damage to Undead
Adds 200-300 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
-35% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(25 to 30)%
+(144 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
+100 to Strength
+50 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (6)
,
Black Void
Black Void
Heavy Belt (Sacred)

Defense: (3060 - 3442) to (3304 - 3717)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 625
Item Level: 120
20% Attack Speed
Adds 10-15 Damage
(10 to 15)% Life stolen per Hit
Slow Target 10%
+(140 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
10% to Strength
10% to Dexterity
Target Takes Additional Damage of (25 to 50)
30% Magic Find
Socketed (2)
,
Blind Anger
Blind Anger
Light Gauntlets (Sacred)

Defense: (1179 - 1447) to (1342 - 1647)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 600
Item Level: 105
8% Chance to cast level 13 Crucify on Melee Attack
+(0 to 1) to All Skills
(1 to 5)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Blinds Attacker +3
+(120 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
(11 to 15)% to All Attributes
Socketed (4)
,
Craton (Xis)
,
Beads of the Snake Queen
Beads of the Snake Queen
Amulet

Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
4% Chance to cast level 33 Scorpion Blade on Kill
Adds 5-10 Damage
Stun Attack
+(200 to 500) Defense
(20 to 25)% to Strength
(20 to 25)% to Dexterity
+100 Life after each Kill
,
Sigil of Tur Dulra
Sigil of Tur Dulra
Ring

Required Level: 100
Item Level: 105
+(1 to 2) to Druid Skill Levels
+(15 to 20)% Bonus to Poison Skill Duration
20% Cast Speed
-(1 to 10)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Elemental Resists +(20 to 25)%
,
Empyrean Glory
Empyrean Glory
Ring

Required Level: 50
Item Level: 120
1% Chance to cast level 40 Singularity on Kill
(6 to 10)% to All Attributes
Maximum Life +5%
Maximum Mana +15%
15% Gold Find
, and all 120 charm. Both to reach high enough dex and -poison resist, but I don't think it's performance better than physical version.


I used the gloves with amazon ultimate skill. More dex!
And Also windrunner boots for more AR. Also used another armor, the same base as sots But ssu, barb need the extra phys res and good tankers. Also psn dmg is better cuz spell dmg increase. Has -199 psn res. Well over 140 k dmg with barb helm oskill (time wave) everything dies on and off screen.


Spell damage does not increase poison with weapon. Unless its a direct melee attack, which is a bug.
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Istaryu wrote:
Bliyadolubov wrote:gladiator dominance is NOT build exclusively for throwing barb. Can be used with 1hand sword or axe


No it cant. You still need to stack a decent amount of dex for block, and those scale with str. You are just shooting yourself in the foot if you do that.


Fun fact: throwing axes scales with str too so using Glad as phys throwbarb is the same "shooting uself in the foot" (not counting Ophiophagus since its exception with orange text) :mrgreen: