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Jo_Jo
Pit Knight
100 | 4
Demonlord wrote:
Jo_Jo wrote:Has anyone tried Poison Barb on Labs? I mean levels 10+

I know this is about 2H Barb...but its the most active Barb thread around here, and i figure it would be the best place to ask.


I pushed mine to T12-13 and let me tell you even with 89,89,89,90 Res it gets rough in there you dont want to take many hits at all. And the Damage on Stampede falls off pretty hard as well. (Mostly because of your poison duration getting gimped so hard) You get to a point where you have to use Snake Bite on a lot of the more tougher things. Its doable but your going to have to work for it.

Shield of Hakan as well as the Witchhunter's Hood are almost mandatory (If you are not running them already) Because thats +4 to ALL Max Res which is huge for Lab. Also want a perfect Kabraxis Charm as well. These things with Azmodan Charm should put you at 85 res. (Poison should be 90 at this point) Doing things like taking out runes for +Res Gems also may be nessisary to get to 90 all res or close but thats what you want to aim for in Lab. Thats how i hit my Res Numbers while still keeping Max Block. But, even with all that bring a inv full of potions and your A-Game for kiting. And you may even consider using Edyrem for Meat Shields at times when possible. They can be helpful and really every little bit helps in that place.

You may also consider getting a good rolled Natasha Chest if you get really serious about pushing to T15 to make up the rest of the Max Res to hit 90 on gear alone. Just make sure it hits good Max Res and Pierce Rolls. +skills would be a plus but the latter two are the most important. This can save you using gems to make up the rest and allow some point from Dex over to Vit possibly. Not been able to get my hands on a chest yet but its an idea anyway. I also need test how much overcapping Res helps in there which im sure it does especially on bosses like Phoboss.


Damn...that sounds rough.
Im still working on getting to 140 and trying to get a well rolled Natashas, and only did the lower Lab levels.
My plan was to increase my poison duration, switching dex runes for Nef runes, while trying to keep the poison pierce, so i can hit once or twice and run a lot lol
Did you try stacking life leech? Was thinking about this aswell, but not sure how good would it work (if it works at all lol)

Did you use a Merc? Was thinking on using the same i used with the Bowazon, a Shapeshifter.
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Demonlord
Cog
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Nef runes in Weapon are typically enough with Glad Dom scaling. Running it in other slots isnt near as worth it since we get 90% from weapon alone while chest would only give 60%. Dex Runes are pretty important for max Block as well as giving us room for Gems for +1 Max Res. Phys Scaling from Ophiophagus and inherent leech from charms is nice from the Dex Scaling as well even though that also gets gimped hard in Lab. Its quite helpful in farming areas like Fauzt. Thats why i swap a couple of my items around depending on if im farming (More MF and Phys/leech) or if im bossing (More pierce/life) or running Lab (Shield of Hakan/Witch Hunter Hood and dropping some Dex runes for +Max Res while trying to keep Max Block and if possible 199 Pierce for bosses in that place).

For the major bosses that typically require Respecs you can either run 3% All Stat Runes and try to keep Max Block and some Vit or go Pure Vitality with 5% Vit Runes. These bosses being Witch, Void, and Yashari. This makes these bosses way easier. otherwise everything else Short or Lab/Sam you just need 170 Pierce and Nef runes in weapon and you should be fine. Everything else in the game just requires learning the mechanics. like Laz for example. You want to keep enough damage on Stampede to clear trash out while dropping Snake Stance for Purify and pretty much do the same thing as every other boss encounter in theory. Dropping points from Glad Dom in respec to Mountain King and 3% all stat Runes become helpful here but not nessisary. You can also Farm in this setup if you wanted since it only gimps Snake Bite Damage in this particular spec. Which is what i use for these problem bosses instead of Pure Vitality. Of course pure Vitality is going to be the easiest possible way to do these problem bosses in the end.
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Jo_Jo
Pit Knight
100 | 4
Demonlord wrote:...


Cool, thanks for the advice. But i was asking strictly about Labs.
Orr
Monkey King
286 | 7
Hello, can u tell me if double stormblast SSU Krieg + shield works? and if its a good combo to use banish+screaming eagle for bosses.
nazh202
Bone Archer
75 | 0
Demonlord wrote:
But, for people interested in more information for the endgame setup i run that give me the best results as well as my endgame notarmory simply send me a private message and i will be more than happy to send that over to you for reference as well as answer any questions you may have.


Yeah I sent you a pm, would like to see your setup. I'm interested in this build as I have items like
Scales of the Serpent
Scales of the Serpent
Gothic Plate (Sacred)

Defense: (7481 - 8308) to (9074 - 10078)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 675
Item Level: 105
15% Chance to cast level 40 Arachnomancy on Melee Attack
4% Chance to cast level 12 Time Strike on Striking
(31 to 40)% Hit Recovery
+90% Damage to Undead
Adds 200-300 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
-35% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(25 to 30)%
+(144 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
+100 to Strength
+50 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (6)
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Crown of the Black Rose
Crown of the Black Rose
Diadem (Sacred)

Defense: 870 to 983
Required Level: 110
Required Dexterity: 524
Item Level: 105
Orb Effects Applied to this Item are Doubled
+(2 to 3) to All Skills
+(20 to 30)% to Poison Spell Damage
-(10 to 15)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(14 to 20) to Black Lotus Strike
+(90 to 150) Life Regenerated per Second
Maximum Poison Resist +(2 to 3)%
(25 to 50)% Bonus to Defense
Cannot Be Frozen
Socketed (4)
and wonder if it can fit this build.
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Orr wrote:Hello, can u tell me if double stormblast SSU Krieg + shield works? and if its a good combo to use banish+screaming eagle for bosses.


banish + screaming eagle is definitely good
as for kriegsmesser, double stormblast will be hard to beat if you discard damage on actual weapon (and if you rely on banish+s.eagle then that is precisely the case).
Only difference would be, that if you really want max dmg output, you probably go dual wield, 1 frame faster swing, and you can get more pierce from statstick offhand. Deadly strike from gladiator's dominance won't boost your screaming eagle damage I think.
Ofc if you need survival then shield is obvious.
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lalaiao
Acid Prince
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schroedinger wrote:
nazh202 wrote:
schroedinger wrote:I started a poison throw barb and leveled him to 120 without respecting and with nearly zero issues (mana perhaps). Maybe not the fastest killer, but it was smooth. Once you get Raptor and full No runes, it becomes quite powerful

Would you mind sharing a quick look at your items choice, skills plan and stats distribution? Thanks :D

Work is still in progress, right now at level 124: https://tsw.vn.cz/acc/char.php?name=Schauble


Hey, is
Grotesque Bite
Grotesque Bite
Hand Axe (Sacred)

One-Hand Damage: 37 to 39
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 376
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
+25% to Experience Gained Until Level 120
+15% Physical Resist After Level 120
100% Chance to cast level 40 Harvest on Melee Attack
+(2 to 3) to All Skills
50% Attack Speed
+(20 to 30)% to Poison Spell Damage
Maximum Poison Resist +4%
+100 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (3)
a good wepon for this build??
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schroedinger
Prowler
18 | 3
lalaiao wrote:
schroedinger wrote:
nazh202 wrote:
schroedinger wrote:I started a poison throw barb and leveled him to 120 without respecting and with nearly zero issues (mana perhaps). Maybe not the fastest killer, but it was smooth. Once you get Raptor and full No runes, it becomes quite powerful

Would you mind sharing a quick look at your items choice, skills plan and stats distribution? Thanks :D

Work is still in progress, right now at level 124: https://tsw.vn.cz/acc/char.php?name=Schauble


Hey, is
Grotesque Bite
Grotesque Bite
Hand Axe (Sacred)

One-Hand Damage: 37 to 39
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 376
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
+25% to Experience Gained Until Level 120
+15% Physical Resist After Level 120
100% Chance to cast level 40 Harvest on Melee Attack
+(2 to 3) to All Skills
50% Attack Speed
+(20 to 30)% to Poison Spell Damage
Maximum Poison Resist +4%
+100 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (3)
a good wepon for this build??

I think that you need a throwing axe
nazh202
Bone Archer
75 | 0
So I respec my Barb to day to Poison throw. Clear speed is slower than 2h Deathgaze (or it's my setup that is not optimal yet, still using
Raptor



Raptor
Throwing Axes

'ZodSurLemEl'
Runeword Level: 85
(Barbarian Only)
3% Chance to cast level 60 Thunder Slam on Kill
-19% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(6 to 11) to Snake Stance (Barbarian Only)
+3 to all Attributes
5% to Vitality
Maximum Life +3%
Regenerate Mana +15%
+115 Life after each Kill
for weapon). However when it comes to bossing this build is sick. I killed Astrogha with 3 hits.
plookey78
Destroyer
7 | 0
Seems like earlier you said screaming eagle doesnt work with offhand throwing axe, are you sure about that? I tried using it in offhand and it seems it works, all the animations play and enemies get the debuff, visually atleast.

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hmm, it seems it worked for me for a while but then i switched up my weapons and cant get it to work again for some reason, very weird..