Σ 1.6.2 Patch Notes

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitism

Funniest part is, I have probably started playing this before you have, so I'd be careful with the whole e-peen swinging. Except, like I said, single player, so my forum activity was merely reading info I looked up, not posting hundreds of times for e-validation.

I don't understand what you are talking about. Game rebalanced around relics? Almost all builds were untouched, only some overperforming ones were nerfed, how does that make the game balanced around relics? Let me guess, you were playing trinity beam paladin.

Anyways, who cares about buffed builds...

Actually, no, fire sorc, and the nerfs dont necessarily have to be on the skills themselves, there were lots of nerfs to build enabling SUs and such (i.e. for fire sorc, habacalva's reduced to 5 extra bolts instead of doubling, because now there is a relic that gives 1 extra flamefront projectile, which is essentially a nerf, until you farm/trade for a bunch of those, and that is just not going to happen in single player, sowhile it doesn't break the build it was a completely unnecessary reduction if you remove the possibility of obtaining the relic).

And as I looked at info from things relavant to other builds I wished to try out I saw similar things: some relic made the skill stronger so they nerfed other things that build uses or requires.

You cant hit a boss with all the bolts from habacalva, so it is irrelevant for single target dps, and for farming, its still gonna be really good, so whatever.

Ebyam wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitism

Funniest part is, I have probably started playing this before you have, so I'd be careful with the whole e-peen swinging. Except, like I said, single player, so my forum activity was merely reading info I looked up, not posting hundreds of times for e-validation.

So you've been playing a game that is completely free for you to use for a very long time. And instead of joining the community and interacting and sharing your suggestions and constructive critiques with offered solutions during this time, you decide to finally register and jump in just to bash said game and then flaming people that are involved for posting frequently calling it a need for "e-validation", yet you offer nothing to the community in return. You are, by the very definition a member of the peanut gallery.

Ebyam wrote:Actually, no, fire sorc, and the nerfs dont necessarily have to be on the skills themselves, there were lots of nerfs to build enabling SUs and such (i.e. for fire sorc, habacalva's reduced to 5 extra bolts instead of doubling, because now there is a relic that gives 1 extra flamefront projectile, which is essentially a nerf, until you farm/trade for a bunch of those, and that is just not going to happen in single player, sowhile it doesn't break the build it was a completely unnecessary reduction if you remove the possibility of obtaining the relic).

And as I looked at info from things relavant to other builds I wished to try out I saw similar things: some relic made the skill stronger so they nerfed other things that build uses or requires.

That's a whole lot of handwaving about a nerf to a very easy to get SU, lol. The game isn't the problem, it's just your perception of it. UMO nerfs have absolutely nothing to do with you but you've taken it upon yourself to be personally offended by them. Your fire sorc will be completely fine.

You're missing the point, which is: this is still something that hurts singleplayer for no reason. And if it was the only thing, sure, whatever. But there is already a whole bunch of those. And considering median has been always single player focused from the start, alienating everyone who did so seems like a particularly asinine direction to take it. It is entirely possible to keep balancing changes that take trading into account just for multiplayer while leaving singleplayer as it is. From all the times I have played median. in the amount of time I have spent this time, I have amassed so little things to play around with, compared to the previous ones. And mind you I'm even using [redacted] to speed the game up by a factor of 2, because everything is so slow and grindy now, and I still don't see much progress. Farming sets and SUs is a pain, farming elemental runes is godawful, farming trophies feels terrible, especially now that there are so many ubers only accessible from within other ubers. I dont even want to imagine what farming these relics will be like, if other trivial things are this bad now. All these things to promote trading for multiplayer. But if you dont play multiplayer, they are just nonsensical and turn the game into a chore. I want to try out whacky builds and solo some tough bosses that kicked my ass, not grind for months like it is some crappy asian MMO.

Right, I'm gonna get right on going through the hassle of recording a video, then spending a bunch of time uploading just to prove my worth to some random internet person, because he said i'm bad at the game for no reason, when completely ignoring every point being made.

This is why I hadn't joined the forums before, it consists entirely of elitist children who need to stroke their own ego.

How about addressing the things being said, instead of nitpicking one thing? What would doubling my damage on cheat engine accomplish? I'm saying the drop rates for everything suck on singleplayer because it is being balanced for multiplayer now. I used the extra speed precisely because players 8 was taken away. Do you think just because it is called 'CheatEngine' it made the game easier? How about you record yourself playing on 2x speed, then tell me that makes the game any easier.