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Doesn't barb get fcr from the wolves aura that you can put points into?
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HechtHeftig wrote:Doesn't barb get fcr from the wolves aura that you can put points into?


They pretty much can get enough FCR from wolves that FCR isn't really necessary outside of wolves/charms. You pretty much are dumping your points into this only because you have nothing else to put points into. The issue isn't that, the issue is the max FPA you can get with dual wield vs non dual wield. 7 FPA vs 9 FPA to be exact and it's very noticeable. It's the difference for me to never go non dual wield on barbarian as a summon barbarian because I enjoy the extremely stupid mobility spirit walk provides and the FPA makes a world of difference.

This is why I think the dual wield 6x fire rune swords might be possible because it allows you to get other gear without forcing you to fascinating craft for high tier fire pierce gear. While you might be short on apoc from the lack of the staff and other good stats it can provide (you generally throw in ral runes so another 12% fire damage missing), the 120 pierce will allow you lot of breathing space with gear pieces for chest/belts now and runemaster now benefits from the 12 runes vs the previous 4 so going ancient armor crafts or any high defence gear will buff you the fuck up vs physical.

Really it comes down to this for this idea - dual wield 6x fire runes gives you 120 pierce, and a higher max frame rate where as the TU long staff gives you +3-6 all skills, some %fire damage (staff and runes) and +21-24 apoc. The problem is farming 12 elemental stones for the 12 fire essences - it's pretty shit.
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FPA got changed in the previous patch, now it's like 6 fpa vs 7 fpa iirc
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Gekko64 wrote:FPA got changed in the previous patch, now it's like 6 fpa vs 7 fpa iirc


I stand corrected. Speed calc says otherwise, but it could have not been updated for that.

I'd say before the current changes that occured to the barbarian, a caster barbarian was a viable spec. It wasn't super fast at killing, but it wasn't very squishy either (big health pool, pretty all right defence, crap load of regen from eagle stance).
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annoying cat wrote:nagi sin, hammertime/spike nova proc and bear stance. not bad at all.


nagisin is quite common and not weird at all


I agree with Splargh, but I can also see why he qualifies it as a weird build since he's using bear stance with a hammertime proc that people almost always overlook. Could be interesting. Would be more interesting if it used more skills or gear that are uncommon to use.


thanks hehe i just love hammetime right now in general. it's like nutella on everything for me. at least bear stance helps me facetank those zon broadstikes in TA.
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annoying cat wrote:
L H wrote:
Splargh wrote:
annoying cat wrote:nagi sin, hammertime/spike nova proc and bear stance. not bad at all.


nagisin is quite common and not weird at all


I agree with Splargh, but I can also see why he qualifies it as a weird build since he's using bear stance with a hammertime proc that people almost always overlook. Could be interesting. Would be more interesting if it used more skills or gear that are uncommon to use.


thanks hehe i just love hammetime right now in general. it's like nutella on everything for me. at least bear stance helps me facetank those zon broadstikes in TA.


You won't get too much def from the bear stance oskill, and the DR is negligible even with 1 pt Shadow Refuge in late game. You could probably swap it for a more useful oskill
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L H wrote:
annoying cat wrote:
L H wrote:
Splargh wrote:
annoying cat wrote:nagi sin, hammertime/spike nova proc and bear stance. not bad at all.


nagisin is quite common and not weird at all


I agree with Splargh, but I can also see why he qualifies it as a weird build since he's using bear stance with a hammertime proc that people almost always overlook. Could be interesting. Would be more interesting if it used more skills or gear that are uncommon to use.


thanks hehe i just love hammetime right now in general. it's like nutella on everything for me. at least bear stance helps me facetank those zon broadstikes in TA.


You won't get too much def from the bear stance oskill, and the DR is negligible even with 1 pt Shadow Refuge in late game. You could probably swap it for a more useful oskill


i agree. it's not amazing, just something to know.