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But she too can farm labs though.
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BearBearderBarb wrote:But she too can farm labs though.


Is that the only criteria for determining the viability of a build? I agree with you, however I loathe the play style, but enjoy the build. I would love to see the timer increase with hard points, at least 60-seconds, OR alternatively allow each strike to extend the length another 20-sec (but not longer) like how old Moon Strike worked so you can keep re-buffing without completely losing the buff. Also, would be nice if buff blinked 2-sec before it ended, on all buffs actually.
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Taem wrote:
BearBearderBarb wrote:But she too can farm labs though.


Is that the only criteria for determining the viability of a build? I agree with you, however I loathe the play style, but enjoy the build. I would love to see the timer increase with hard points, at least 60-seconds, OR alternatively allow each strike to extend the length another 20-sec (but not longer) like how old Moon Strike worked so you can keep re-buffing without completely losing the buff. Also, would be nice if buff blinked 2-sec before it ended, on all buffs actually.

This.


The spearzon tree has been a clunky mess since its inception.
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Taem wrote:Not Javazon, but Spearzon, I fucking hate having to cast Takedown every 20-second or whatever. Stupid AF IMO! And to make it worse, it timer based and loses its buff no matter if you just struck with it the second before; READ: YOU CANNOT RESET THE TIMER BY ATTACKING AGAIN! You can't believe how much this detracts from this build when every 20-fucking second, you lose your buff entirely, need to rebuff which takes a couple of seconds! Complete waste of time, I'm pretty much done with spearzon because of this bullshit.

Yeah, 60 secs duration can be decent. Come on, old UH melee paladin was changed to a buff for 10 mins.... same thing for some other characters so WHY REPEAT THE SAME LAME PLAYSTYLE of buffing every 20 secs? And in the top of buffing every 20 secs you must hit an oponent for keep it on.... :/

Just make the buff work like paladin buff vindicate and 60 secs duration. That can be a really QOL change---
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MUS01 wrote:
Taem wrote:Not Javazon, but Spearzon, I fucking hate having to cast Takedown every 20-second or whatever. Stupid AF IMO! And to make it worse, it timer based and loses its buff no matter if you just struck with it the second before; READ: YOU CANNOT RESET THE TIMER BY ATTACKING AGAIN! You can't believe how much this detracts from this build when every 20-fucking second, you lose your buff entirely, need to rebuff which takes a couple of seconds! Complete waste of time, I'm pretty much done with spearzon because of this bullshit.

Yeah, 60 secs duration can be decent. Come on, old UH melee paladin was changed to a buff for 10 mins.... same thing for some other characters so WHY REPEAT THE SAME LAME PLAYSTYLE of buffing every 20 secs? And in the top of buffing every 20 secs you must hit an oponent for keep it on.... :/

Just make the buff work like paladin buff vindicate and 60 secs duration. That can be a really QOL change---

Somewhere along the way, the community fell in love with the idea of a piano playstyle because people like ben were good at it. Its almost like its a flex to act like its the expert playstyle to constantly have to recast skills, despite being an obnoxious playstyle.
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Spearzon isn't even a piano-build, just annoying to play. Time when Dunc was the last uber it was THE build to farm that, now things are different.

But this topic is about Javazon and I 100% agree with topic starter and he has some nice suggestions. Something needs to be done, java is fun build otherwise.
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AGsniper wrote:Somewhere along the way, the community fell in love with the idea of a piano playstyle because people like ben were good at it. Its almost like its a flex to act like its the expert playstyle to constantly have to recast skills, despite being an obnoxious playstyle.


Nah, it's a way to make melee builds actually play in melee. Of course, with Melee Devotion forcing the issue and half the damn skills turning into buffs instead of melee swings, it's been pretty pointless since 2.0...
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Just make javazon buffs works all time even vs spells and the build would be fine
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Taem wrote:Not Javazon, but Spearzon, I fucking hate having to cast Takedown every 20-second or whatever. Stupid AF IMO! And to make it worse, it timer based and loses its buff no matter if you just struck with it the second before; READ: YOU CANNOT RESET THE TIMER BY ATTACKING AGAIN! You can't believe how much this detracts from this build when every 20-fucking second, you lose your buff entirely, need to rebuff which takes a couple of seconds! Complete waste of time, I'm pretty much done with spearzon because of this bullshit.


you know, i actually just remembered this

but I asked Ben about this right after the rework and takedown *does* refresh, the icon is just bugged