How much -% to break immunities?

use this thread for short questions like that (short questions thread in the newbie help section):
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=124

here's a list of some of the skills (old thread and ultimative version):
http://www.medianxl.com/t1115-mxlu-faq- ... uide#24892

there's a few new ones
it also contains a chapter on heroic shield

immunity just means more than 200%, so if you got -300% it will have.. ? if its broken then times 1/5 because thats how it was in vanilla, so take 250 immunity you would need 51*5 = 255 to remove it by a remover. thats the easy theory behind it. after that your 300% will come or whatever :lol:

heroic shield just has a very large number and because your remover is only 1/5 value vs immunity it's both theoretically and practically bad to remove

Hookhookhook wrote:immunity just means more than 200%, so if you got -300% it will have.. ? if its broken then times 1/5 because thats how it was in vanilla, so take 250 immunity you would need 51*5 = 255 to remove it by a remover. thats the easy theory behind it. after that your 300% will come or whatever

heroic shield just has a very large number and because your remover is only 1/5 value vs immunity it's both theoretically and practically bad to remove

It means 100% - a spell that reduces it by 10 breaks the immunity. -4000% enemy resistance on gear will not break it. You could use all immunity breaking spells and the heroics (+several other enemies) will stay immune, but the heroics seem to drop resistances more frequently.

IIRC in vanilla resistance lowering skills (Conviction, Amplify dmg etc.) worked on immune monsters only with 1/5 efficiency. It has nothing to do with items -res modifier.
So if monster had 105% fire res your Conviction needs to lower resists at least -25 to break the immunity.
I don't think it's changed in Median, haven't paid much attention to it since every class has at least two or three strong elements at their disposal.

The 1/5 thing was hardcoded for vanilla res debuff skills. In median it's not the case.

suchbalance wrote:The 1/5 thing was hardcoded for vanilla res debuff skills. In median it's not the case.

This.

Also i'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this but,

http://imgur.com/JqLvvvV

This was bane, colloseum, and useelie for a total of -175, and it didnt cap at -100 like expected.
OFC this could just be a display error with stings (this is tested on SP), but I doubt it.

Controlledanger wrote:Also i'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this but

I'm not sure if anyone esle would do this, using forbidden tool.

All is fair in love and SP.

Stealthmaster wrote:
Controlledanger wrote:Also i'm not sure if anyone else has experienced this but

I'm not sure if anyone esle would do this, using forbidden tool.

Controlledanger wrote:
OFC this could just be a display error with stings (this is tested on SP), but I doubt it.

There are lots of lurkers and guests who are reading this (and seeing). By posting screenshots of this tool, you encourage them to do the same. :-?

For example, I have been receiving PMs about changing the font ingame since long time, since all SS I posted were with changed font. As being said, people will start asking questions like 'how can I make monsters display their resists'? You didn't even make a spoiler or warned others that you're testing damage/resists using forbidden mh (otherwise, I wouldn't have said you a word).