interesting fact about slow

aerial wrote:Is there a way to get 50 slow with throwing axe other than xis void + triune?
I tried to run with krys gloves, 75% melee slow, one item caps it, but that 10% ctc cone of cold fucks you over sometimes, so it is not reliable.

This fight is still kinda random, sometimes dodges 5x in a row. Sometimes stops teleporting, spams totems forever. It takes lot of rng to go your way, even if you play well.

I have acrafted balanced axe with 25% slow. I believe 25 is the cap. Nas crafted runes also can get 1% slow melee target. I assume slow target and slow melee target stack, so if you're using the throwing axe for melee attacks (laz fight for example), then you should be able to get a decent amount with triune + crafted weapon + crafted jewels.

For uldy, the Nas crafted jewels will be useless, so dunno what to do there other than get other items with slow target.

Some TU's have a good amount of it, I believe.

The Overlord

The Overlord
Two-Handed Sword (4)
One-Hand Damage: 5 to 6
Two-Hand Damage: 5 to 8
Required Level: 1
Required Strength: 25
Item Level: 1
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
+1 to All Skills
Adds (6 to 8)-(8 to 15) Magic Damage
+(2 to 3) to Wyrd
(2 to 5)% to Vitality
+3 to Mana (Based on Character Level)
Socketed (2)
One-Hand Damage: 10 to 11
Two-Hand Damage: 12 to 13
Required Level: 19
Required Strength: 48
Item Level: 31
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
+2 to All Skills
Adds (16 to 20)-(26 to 38) Magic Damage
+(5 to 6) to Wyrd
(10 to 13)% to Vitality
+3.3125 to Mana (Based on Character Level)
Socketed (3)
One-Hand Damage: 14 to 16
Two-Hand Damage: 21 to 22
Required Level: 37
Required Strength: 104
Item Level: 51
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
+3 to All Skills
Adds (101 to 120)-(126 to 150) Magic Damage
+(8 to 9) to Wyrd
(18 to 21)% to Vitality
+3.625 to Mana (Based on Character Level)
Socketed (4)
One-Hand Damage: 17 to 20
Two-Hand Damage: 25 to 27
Required Level: 46
Required Strength: 212
Item Level: 77
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
+4 to All Skills
Adds (201 to 240)-(251 to 300) Magic Damage
+(12 to 13) to Wyrd
(22 to 25)% to Vitality
+4 to Mana (Based on Character Level)
Socketed (4)

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Brainhack

Brainhack
Hand Axe (4)
One-Hand Damage: (4 - 5) to (6 - 7)
Required Level: 3
Item Level: 1
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
3% Chance to cast level 2 Banish on Kill
15% Attack Speed
+(16 to 30)% Enhanced Damage
+(1 to 2) to Deathgaze
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (3 to 5)%
+(1 to 10) to Strength
-(1 to 10) to Energy
Socketed (1)
One-Hand Damage: (13 - 16) to (16 - 19)
Required Level: 19
Required Strength: 18
Item Level: 31
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
5% Chance to cast level 8 Banish on Kill
25% Attack Speed
+(51 to 80)% Enhanced Damage
+(4 to 6) to Deathgaze
6% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (9 to 11)%
+(11 to 20) to Strength
-(11 to 20) to Energy
Socketed (2)
One-Hand Damage: (24 - 28) to (30 - 35)
Required Level: 37
Required Strength: 49
Item Level: 51
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
7% Chance to cast level 14 Banish on Kill
35% Attack Speed
+(91 to 120)% Enhanced Damage
+(8 to 10) to Deathgaze
7% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (15 to 17)%
+(21 to 30) to Strength
-(21 to 30) to Energy
Socketed (3)
One-Hand Damage: (36 - 41) to (46 - 52)
Required Level: 46
Required Strength: 104
Item Level: 77
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
8% Chance to cast level 17 Banish on Kill
50% Attack Speed
+(131 to 160)% Enhanced Damage
+(10 to 14) to Deathgaze
8% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (18 to 20)%
+(31 to 40) to Strength
-(31 to 40) to Energy
Socketed (3)

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Magnet Rock

Magnet Rock
Morning Star (4)
One-Hand Damage: 7 to 10
Required Level: 20
Required Strength: 48
Item Level: 10
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
-3% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(1 to 3) to Annihilation (Paladin Only)
Physical Damage Reduced by (2 to 5)
(15 to 20)% Gold Find
(11 to 15)% Magic Find
Socketed (1)
One-Hand Damage: 14 to 20
Required Level: 25
Required Strength: 78
Item Level: 31
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
-6% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(4 to 6) to Annihilation (Paladin Only)
Physical Damage Reduced by (10 to 13)
(20 to 25)% Gold Find
(21 to 25)% Magic Find
Socketed (2)
One-Hand Damage: 23 to 36
Required Level: 44
Required Strength: 158
Item Level: 51
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
-9% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(7 to 9) to Annihilation (Paladin Only)
Physical Damage Reduced by (18 to 21)
(25 to 30)% Gold Find
(31 to 35)% Magic Find
Socketed (3)
One-Hand Damage: 28 to 42
Required Level: 53
Required Strength: 315
Item Level: 77
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
-12% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(10 to 13) to Annihilation (Paladin Only)
Physical Damage Reduced by (22 to 25)
(30 to 35)% Gold Find
(36 to 40)% Magic Find
Socketed (3)

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The Shanker

The Shanker
Dagger (4)
One-Hand Damage: (5 - 6) to (6 - 8)
Required Level: 1
Item Level: 1
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Dexterity)%
+50 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(12 to 35)% Enhanced Damage
-9% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (3 to 5)%
Socketed (1)
One-Hand Damage: (11 - 12) to (12 - 14)
Required Level: 18
Required Dexterity: 18
Item Level: 31
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Dexterity)%
+100 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(58 to 80)% Enhanced Damage
-18% to Enemy Poison Resistance
10% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (9 to 11)%
Socketed (2)
One-Hand Damage: (32 - 36) to (34 - 38)
Required Level: 36
Required Dexterity: 49
Item Level: 51
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Dexterity)%
+250 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(104 to 126)% Enhanced Damage
-27% to Enemy Poison Resistance
15% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (15 to 17)%
Socketed (2)
One-Hand Damage: (36 - 39) to (38 - 42)
Required Level: 45
Required Dexterity: 104
Item Level: 77
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Dexterity)%
+725 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(126 to 149)% Enhanced Damage
-36% to Enemy Poison Resistance
20% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (18 to 20)%
Socketed (2)

(Huge OW on this one too),

Wrathchild

Wrathchild
Labrys (4)
Two-Hand Damage: (19 - 23) to (39 - 57)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 12
Required Strength: 127
Item Level: 29
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
Thunderfury
+1 to Barbarian Skill Levels
+(16 to 30) to Maximum Damage
+(24 to 46)% Enhanced Damage
+(3 to 6) to Earthquake (Barbarian Only)
(2 to 3)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (3 to 5)%
+6 Mana on Melee Attack
(21 to 25)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (2)
Two-Hand Damage: (64 - 72) to (115 - 138)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 31
Required Strength: 183
Item Level: 40
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
Thunderfury
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
+(46 to 60) to Maximum Damage
+(69 to 92)% Enhanced Damage
+(7 to 10) to Earthquake (Barbarian Only)
(4 to 6)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (9 to 11)%
+10 Mana on Melee Attack
(31 to 35)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (4)
Two-Hand Damage: (159 - 175) to (245 - 277)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 52
Required Strength: 354
Item Level: 67
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
Thunderfury
+3 to Barbarian Skill Levels
+(76 to 90) to Maximum Damage
+(115 to 137)% Enhanced Damage
+(11 to 14) to Earthquake (Barbarian Only)
(7 to 9)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (15 to 17)%
+15 Mana on Melee Attack
(41 to 45)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (5)
Two-Hand Damage: (190 - 208) to (326 - 367)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 60
Required Strength: 696
Item Level: 85
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.16 per Strength)%
Thunderfury
+4 to Barbarian Skill Levels
+(91 to 110) to Maximum Damage
+(138 to 160)% Enhanced Damage
+(15 to 18) to Earthquake (Barbarian Only)
(10 to 12)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Slow Target (18 to 20)%
+20 Mana on Melee Attack
(46 to 50)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (6)

(Since I assume you're still thinking of your barb),

Al Nath

Al Nath
Scimitar (4)
One-Hand Damage: (6 - 7) to (18 - 29)
Required Level: 2
Required Strength: 25
Item Level: 1
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
15% Attack Speed
+(11 to 20) to Maximum Damage
(41 to 60)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds (3 to 5)-(6 to 7) Fire Damage
+(31 to 50)% Enhanced Damage
Slow Target (3 to 5)%
(3 to 5)% to Strength
Socketed (1)
One-Hand Damage: (17 - 19) to (40 - 51)
Required Level: 20
Required Strength: 48
Item Level: 31
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
25% Attack Speed
+(21 to 30) to Maximum Damage
(71 to 90)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds (8 to 10)-(16 to 18) Fire Damage
+(61 to 80)% Enhanced Damage
Slow Target (9 to 11)%
(9 to 11)% to Strength
Socketed (2)
One-Hand Damage: (32 - 35) to (67 - 79)
Required Level: 39
Required Strength: 104
Item Level: 51
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
35% Attack Speed
+(31 to 40) to Maximum Damage
(101 to 120)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds (23 to 28)-(43 to 50) Fire Damage
+(91 to 110)% Enhanced Damage
Slow Target (15 to 17)%
(15 to 17)% to Strength
Socketed (3)
One-Hand Damage: (44 - 48) to (91 - 105)
Required Level: 48
Required Strength: 212
Item Level: 77
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
50% Attack Speed
+(41 to 50) to Maximum Damage
(131 to 150)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds (61 to 80)-(131 to 150) Fire Damage
+(121 to 140)% Enhanced Damage
Slow Target (18 to 20)%
(18 to 20)% to Strength
Socketed (3)

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SUs with decent amounts and fairly cheap to obtain:

Aurumvorax

Aurumvorax
War Sword (Sacred)
One-Hand Damage: 46 to 50
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 581
Item Level: 105
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.11 per Strength)%
30% Cast Speed
+(25 to 40)% to Fire Spell Damage
-(15 to 25)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(10 to 19) to Pentagram
+20% to Summoned Minion Resistances
+(75 to 150) Life Regenerated per Second
Maximum Fire Resist +(1 to 2)%
Elemental Resists +20%
-10% Gold Find
+5 to Light Radius
Socketed (3)

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Throatseeker

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Fleshmender

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Magelock

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Ashenwind

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Dusk Shard

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Helgrotha's Fang

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Thunder King of Sescheron

Thunder King of Sescheron
Kriegsmesser (Sacred)
One-Hand Damage: 53 to 57
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 642
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.14 per Strength)%
Stormblast: +1 Projectile
Thundergod Nova Deals 5000 Lightning Damage
Lightning Shield: +(18 to 30) Lightning Damage to Weapon per Skill Level
20% Chance to cast level 10 Life Spark on Melee Attack
Adds (200 to 300)-(450 to 600) Lightning Damage
-(30 to 40)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+10 to Stormblast
10% Chance of Crushing Blow
100% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (6)

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Blade of the Jitan

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Pitlord's Pendulum

, and more. Just search docs for "Slows Target"

If you want throwing axes:

The Whistling Death

, and

Hawking Axe

but both have procs too.

L H wrote:I have acrafted balanced axe with 25% slow. I believe 25 is the cap. Nas crafted runes also can get 1% slow melee target. I assume slow target and slow melee target stack,

I don't think they stack. I remember reading from somewhere that they at least overwrite each other same way as "slow attacker" does. Otherwise crafted axe with 20% slow + 6 Zod runes would do the trick.

Yeah if that was the case it would be quite easy.
You also want to do it without using 10 different items 5% slow each

In case of void 1 item covers slow, item has no proc, so it seems to be the best by far.

i tested it and its pretty confusing when hes slowed, really hard when youre not used to it because suddenly the times that hes going to jump dont work anymore. like you walk into a position where you KNOW it in your gut that he would normally jump but he doesnt and ow just runs out lol.

but then again in the large area in the upper part of the level is pretty ok for keeping him in 1 spot for a moment and let him summon totems far away just to get 2 hits in every now and then. definitely fun to experiment with

Yeah I noticed same thing, if he sits there slowed, and surrounded by grupies, you can't refresh OW or purify him.

Here's my unfinished/outdated stats page, slow section (mostly from the amazing amazon basin wiki which you all should read):
https://docs.median-xl.com/MXLU_vXVI_Do ... ill_freeze

It explains some of the stacking mechanisms.
the 4 different types of slow % are the same source, so they override each other.
Slows Target by % overrides Slows Melee Target by % if both are used at the same time
the part about duration that I wrote is slighty wrong, check the amazon basin for the correct info

and yeah, attack speed and movement speed slow are actually separate, but slow reduces them by the same amount. slow stacks with skills reducing them (to a minimum cap of 15% and 25%, stacking different sources bypasses the 50% slow cap for bosses)

on an interesting and unrelated note, do you know levels 121-125 have additional benefits like a greater chance to hit monsters and lower chance to get hit by them, since the formula is partially based on the level difference between the monster and player?

https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php/Basic <--- amazing

Nice, wish I knew about that amazon basin site. It does explain aerial's point.. though I don't understand the point of having 90% slow cap, if the cap is 15% and 25% respectively.. 75 would cap movement and 85 would cap attack speed.
Seems a bit OP, maybe there should be no skill slow?
As far as void's point, it claims to be a server side vs client side issue.. did you notice desyncing while doing this? Was it on single player?

I'm not saying that 90% is necessary, it is where screaming eagle caps out (40%).

aerial wrote:I'm not saying that 90% is necessary, it is where screaming eagle caps out (40%).

Sorry, wasn't referring to your setup, I mean it seems stupid that the cap for normal enemies is 90%.

arcology wrote:As far as void's point, it claims to be a server side vs client side issue.. did you notice desyncing while doing this? Was it on single player?

where does it claim being server vs client? i dont see where i said that pls quote exactly where i said that... it was done on sp so no desync

aerial wrote:Yeah I noticed same thing, if he sits there slowed, and surrounded by grupies, you can't refresh OW or purify him.

good news is that you can outwalk groupies, the real annoyance happens when laz starts summoning totems, because it makes it pointless to pin him down lol

probably most ppl have seen it by now but i want to post it again here so if you havent seen it here it is:

with the slow you can move him into the world nexus lol. its a bit rng when he teleports but if you know hes gonna teleport you got like 2 seconds to enter the portal, which might be pretty reliable with some practice. its not that great imo but its still interesting to consider