Naginata sin help + rant

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akbugger
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Few questions. I recently found Blackjade's Legacy and Zular Khan's Tempest halberd.
1) Is it worth to build a Ways Nagisin with these 2 items?
2) how do you deal with bosses with a naginata? I remember using crucify early, but it's rather lackluster late game...
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akbugger wrote:Few questions. I recently found Blackjade's Legacy and Zular Khan's Tempest halberd.
1) Is it worth to build a Ways Nagisin with these 2 items?
2) how do you deal with bosses with a naginata? I remember using crucify early, but it's rather lackluster late game...


broadside combo with attacks
akbugger
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So, what u do is:
1) trigger Shadow Refuge
2) plant Broadside
3) if situation allows it spam melee attack (crucify)
4) if situation does not allow it, plant broadside and run around

Is that the plan is should use?
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Put some points into Backstab, so the cooldown is about 4 seconds, then you should have around 1.5s uptime.
Backstab and put down broadside, rinse and repeat every 4th second.
Backstab HEAVILY increases the damage, around 15k magic damage.
You can melt bosses very fast with it, imo on of the fastest boss killer in the game, and one of the fastest farmer (and doesnt feel clunky if you have Dark Pact helmet so you always have Bloodlust for hades gate).

Also, the only ways you can afford to max is Way of the Gryphon, since you wanna:
Smax Perfect Being, Broadside, Laserblade, Prismatic Cloak, Way of the Gryphon.
Enough points in Shadow Refuge to have 50% PR.
Atleast one point in Doom, I just use it for harder, tankier bosses.

If you have Blackjades Legacy, then it can be worth to max Shadow Refuge and place the leftover points in Way of the Gryphon (this needs testing). You lose some Lightning Pierce, but get more fire pierce + physical damage (and some movement speed which can be nice).
akbugger
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Auch...
I didn't see the backstab sinergy. This seems to be rather heavy on points tbh. But ok - what should I use for farming? Plant Broadside, then Hades until screen melts?
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akbugger wrote:Auch...
I didn't see the backstab sinergy. This seems to be rather heavy on points tbh. But ok - what should I use for farming? Plant Broadside, then Hades until screen melts?


Iirc 5 points in Backstab is enough.
Yes, broadside until you get a corpse, then keep Shadow refugee/bloodbath up while spamming hades gate.
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Also, 5 points in Hades gate is enough, more doesnt give anything if you keep bloodbath up.
akbugger
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Tnx guys, much helpful info. Does seem a bit clunky having to switch skills constantly. Is there a point in maxing Laserblade for defence, or more than one point in barrier strike? From how I see it, the playstyle isn't very focused on taking hits at all (kinda like a more complicated version of werewolf druid).
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akbugger wrote:Tnx guys, much helpful info. Does seem a bit clunky having to switch skills constantly. Is there a point in maxing Laserblade for defence, or more than one point in barrier strike? From how I see it, the playstyle isn't very focused on taking hits at all (kinda like a more complicated version of werewolf druid).


You max laserblade for the damage, and some extra defence is nice, I sit at around 140k defence, which doesnt help a lot, but it's something. But the damage from it is really good.
And yes, nagi/claw is usually called Pianosin, there is some skill switching involved to be 100% effective, but if you get a Dark Pact helm, you don't have to care about Bloodbath anymore and can just refresh shadow refugee every 20-30s and spam hades gate for farming.
akbugger
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I dont have the helm I'm afraid. I did get 2 fairly nice items yesterday - an ethereal Penumbra (crappy for Maelsin which is my highest level char currenty) and a Dreamweaver katar. Tried respecing from Mael to Ways clawsin with Doom Gong, epic fail I must say.

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