astroasko wrote:What's the skill Split Spear? Found it on a relic and google is now showing anything. Thanks.
nobrainnopain wrote:anybody playing an elementalist?
looking for some hints / ideas for skillig etc.
La_minore wrote:nobrainnopain wrote:anybody playing an elementalist?
looking for some hints / ideas for skillig etc.
Were you referring to a Barbarian elementalist?
Having fun leveling one is SP. Skill:
ELEMENTAL tree:
Conflux: max
Iron Spiral: increase until no cooldown. Or... just use 1-pointer Earthquake. I find Iron Spiral not as smooth as Earthquake for clearing.
Overload: 1
(The lightning signature skill that increase movement speed): max 5
Deep Freeze: max 5
(The fire signature skill that heal 3%HP/second and reduce poison length): I just put 1 point for the heal, the poison length reduction seems extremely useful in Uber later (like Ureh)
Primordial Strike: max
EARTHSHAKER tree:
Earthquake: 1 - IMO better clearing skill than Iron Spiral. Gives you an edge fighting tougher enemies until level 40 (Primordial Strike requires level 40). Better not fight act bosses using Iron Spiral.
Thunderslam : 1
Leap: 1
NOMAD tree:
Eagle stance: 5 - for the maximum bonus to innate elemental damage it can offer (20%). I keep this on at all times
Primordial hunt: 1
Mountain king and Ancient Blood: I haven't tested both options extensively. But perhaps if using a dex-based build (Crystal sword), Mountain king can be maxed for the extra innate cold damage; if using a strength-based weapons (mammen axe, ono, battle axe), the attack rating from Ancient Blood seems tempting.
MASTERY tree:
Melee Devotion: 1 - why not
(other can be up to preference)
REWARD tree:
Nephalem Spirit: max
Thunder god: 1
Immortal: max
Some leveling item:
Weapon:Oni no OnaorOni no Ona
Ono (4)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 1
Required Strength: 21
Item Level: 1
Innate Cold Damage: (26.0% of Strength)
Adds (9 to 11)-13 Lightning Damage
Adds 10-(14 to 15) Lightning Damage
-(5 to 8)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
Lightning Resist +15%
Poison Length Reduced by 10%
+(5 to 10) Mana on Melee Attack
Half Freeze Duration
Socketed (2)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 19
Required Strength: 47
Item Level: 22
Innate Cold Damage: (26.0% of Strength)
Adds (31 to 33)-40 Lightning Damage
Adds 30-(46 to 48) Lightning Damage
-(9 to 12)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
Lightning Resist +25%
Poison Length Reduced by 20%
+(11 to 15) Mana on Melee Attack
Half Freeze Duration
Socketed (4)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 40
Required Strength: 106
Item Level: 44
Innate Cold Damage: (26.0% of Strength)
Adds (101 to 110)-120 Lightning Damage
Adds 90-(146 to 160) Lightning Damage
-(13 to 16)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
Lightning Resist +35%
Poison Length Reduced by 30%
+(16 to 20) Mana on Melee Attack
Half Freeze Duration
Socketed (5)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 216
Item Level: 80
Innate Cold Damage: (26.0% of Strength)
Adds (331 to 340)-500 Lightning Damage
Adds 360-(486 to 500) Lightning Damage
-(17 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
Lightning Resist +45%
Poison Length Reduced by 40%
+(21 to 25) Mana on Melee Attack
Half Freeze Duration
Socketed (6)King of the Dreadlands, or evenKing of the Dreadlands
Mammen Axe (4)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 1
Item Level: 1
Innate Fire Damage: (13.0% of Strength)
7% Chance to cast level 6 Spike Nova on Melee Attack
25% Attack Speed
Adds (12 to 17)-(25 to 29) Fire Damage
+(5 to 10) Life after each Kill
+1% to Experience Gained
Socketed (1)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 20
Required Strength: 21
Item Level: 22
Innate Fire Damage: (13.0% of Strength)
8% Chance to cast level 8 Spike Nova on Melee Attack
45% Attack Speed
Adds (31 to 34)-(60 to 68) Fire Damage
+(11 to 15) Life after each Kill
+2% to Experience Gained
Socketed (2)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 40
Required Strength: 59
Item Level: 44
Innate Fire Damage: (13.0% of Strength)
9% Chance to cast level 10 Spike Nova on Melee Attack
65% Attack Speed
Adds (80 to 85)-(160 to 165) Fire Damage
+(16 to 20) Life after each Kill
+2% to Experience Gained
Socketed (3)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 124
Item Level: 80
Innate Fire Damage: (13.0% of Strength)
10% Chance to cast level 12 Spike Nova on Melee Attack
75% Attack Speed
Adds (285 to 290)-(450 to 460) Fire Damage
+(21 to 25) Life after each Kill
+3% to Experience Gained
Socketed (3)Iceflayer?. I used Oni no Ona, damage is great. While King of the Dreadlands gives the much-needed life after each killIceflayer
Crystal Sword (4)
Required Level: 11
Required Dexterity: 73
Item Level: 18
Innate Cold Damage: (10.0% of Dexterity)
+1 to Paladin Skill Levels
+1 to Druid Skill Levels
15% Attack Speed
Adds 7-10 Cold Damage
-(3 to 5)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
(3 to 5)% to Dexterity
Physical Damage Reduced by (5 to 10)
Socketed (2)
Required Level: 30
Required Dexterity: 110
Item Level: 33
Innate Cold Damage: (10.0% of Dexterity)
+2 to Paladin Skill Levels
+2 to Druid Skill Levels
30% Attack Speed
Adds 20-30 Cold Damage
-(6 to 10)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
(9 to 11)% to Dexterity
Physical Damage Reduced by (15 to 25)
Socketed (4)
Required Level: 48
Required Dexterity: 216
Item Level: 53
Innate Cold Damage: (10.0% of Dexterity)
+3 to Paladin Skill Levels
+3 to Druid Skill Levels
45% Attack Speed
Adds 60-90 Cold Damage
-(11 to 15)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
(15 to 17)% to Dexterity
Physical Damage Reduced by (31 to 40)
Socketed (5)
Required Level: 57
Required Dexterity: 427
Item Level: 90
Innate Cold Damage: (10.0% of Dexterity)
+4 to Paladin Skill Levels
+4 to Druid Skill Levels
60% Attack Speed
Adds 240-360 Cold Damage
-(16 to 20)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
(18 to 20)% to Dexterity
Physical Damage Reduced by (41 to 50)
Socketed (6)
Armor:Jitan's Kamonfor tri-elemental damageJitan's Kamon
Splint Mail (4)
Defense: (184 - 208) to (370 - 418)
Required Level: 6
Required Strength: 30
Item Level: 10
2% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds 2-4 Fire Damage
Adds 2-4 Lightning Damage
Adds 2-4 Cold Damage
+(24 to 40)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 2%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (592 - 656) to (1106 - 1225)
Required Level: 23
Required Strength: 60
Item Level: 27
4% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds (4 to 8)-(8 to 15) Fire Damage
Adds (4 to 8)-(8 to 15) Lightning Damage
Adds (4 to 8)-(8 to 15) Cold Damage
+(58 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 3%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1466 - 1596) to (2663 - 2898)
Required Level: 41
Required Strength: 210
Item Level: 48
6% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds (16 to 30)-(31 to 45) Fire Damage
Adds (16 to 30)-(31 to 45) Lightning Damage
Adds (16 to 30)-(31 to 45) Cold Damage
+(92 to 109)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 4%
Socketed (5)
Defense: (2175 - 2352) to (3925 - 4244)
Required Level: 49
Required Strength: 420
Item Level: 82
8% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds (31 to 60)-(81 to 120) Fire Damage
Adds (31 to 60)-(81 to 120) Lightning Damage
Adds (31 to 60)-(81 to 120) Cold Damage
+(109 to 126)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 5%
Socketed (6)
I find ele barb can melt almost anything using Primordial Strike during the early game (provided he does not die first). So saving some item slots for attack rating and survival can be viable.
La_minore wrote:nobrainnopain wrote:anybody playing an elementalist?
looking for some hints / ideas for skillig etc.
Were you referring to a Barbarian elementalist?
Having fun leveling one is SP. Skill:
ELEMENTAL tree:
Conflux: max
Iron Spiral: increase until no cooldown. Or... just use 1-pointer Earthquake. I find Iron Spiral not as smooth as Earthquake for clearing.
Overload: 1
(The lightning signature skill that increase movement speed): max 5
Deep Freeze: max 5
(The fire signature skill that heal 3%HP/second and reduce poison length): I just put 1 point for the heal, the poison length reduction seems extremely useful in Uber later (like Ureh)
Primordial Strike: max
EARTHSHAKER tree:
Earthquake: 1 - IMO better clearing skill than Iron Spiral. Gives you an edge fighting tougher enemies until level 40 (Primordial Strike requires level 40). Better not fight act bosses using Iron Spiral.
Thunderslam : 1
Leap: 1
NOMAD tree:
Eagle stance: 5 - for the maximum bonus to innate elemental damage it can offer (20%). I keep this on at all times
Primordial hunt: 1
Mountain king and Ancient Blood: I haven't tested both options extensively. But perhaps if using a dex-based build (Crystal sword), Mountain king can be maxed for the extra innate cold damage; if using a strength-based weapons (mammen axe, ono, battle axe), the attack rating from Ancient Blood seems tempting.
MASTERY tree:
Melee Devotion: 1 - why not
(other can be up to preference)
REWARD tree:
Nephalem Spirit: max
Thunder god: 1
Immortal: max
Some leveling item:
Weapon:Oni no OnaorOni no Ona
Ono (4)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 1
Required Strength: 21
Item Level: 1
Innate Cold Damage: (26.0% of Strength)
Adds (9 to 11)-13 Lightning Damage
Adds 10-(14 to 15) Lightning Damage
-(5 to 8)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
Lightning Resist +15%
Poison Length Reduced by 10%
+(5 to 10) Mana on Melee Attack
Half Freeze Duration
Socketed (2)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 19
Required Strength: 47
Item Level: 22
Innate Cold Damage: (26.0% of Strength)
Adds (31 to 33)-40 Lightning Damage
Adds 30-(46 to 48) Lightning Damage
-(9 to 12)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
Lightning Resist +25%
Poison Length Reduced by 20%
+(11 to 15) Mana on Melee Attack
Half Freeze Duration
Socketed (4)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 40
Required Strength: 106
Item Level: 44
Innate Cold Damage: (26.0% of Strength)
Adds (101 to 110)-120 Lightning Damage
Adds 90-(146 to 160) Lightning Damage
-(13 to 16)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
Lightning Resist +35%
Poison Length Reduced by 30%
+(16 to 20) Mana on Melee Attack
Half Freeze Duration
Socketed (5)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 216
Item Level: 80
Innate Cold Damage: (26.0% of Strength)
Adds (331 to 340)-500 Lightning Damage
Adds 360-(486 to 500) Lightning Damage
-(17 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
Lightning Resist +45%
Poison Length Reduced by 40%
+(21 to 25) Mana on Melee Attack
Half Freeze Duration
Socketed (6)King of the Dreadlands, or evenKing of the Dreadlands
Mammen Axe (4)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 1
Item Level: 1
Innate Fire Damage: (13.0% of Strength)
7% Chance to cast level 6 Spike Nova on Melee Attack
25% Attack Speed
Adds (12 to 17)-(25 to 29) Fire Damage
+(5 to 10) Life after each Kill
+1% to Experience Gained
Socketed (1)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 20
Required Strength: 21
Item Level: 22
Innate Fire Damage: (13.0% of Strength)
8% Chance to cast level 8 Spike Nova on Melee Attack
45% Attack Speed
Adds (31 to 34)-(60 to 68) Fire Damage
+(11 to 15) Life after each Kill
+2% to Experience Gained
Socketed (2)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 40
Required Strength: 59
Item Level: 44
Innate Fire Damage: (13.0% of Strength)
9% Chance to cast level 10 Spike Nova on Melee Attack
65% Attack Speed
Adds (80 to 85)-(160 to 165) Fire Damage
+(16 to 20) Life after each Kill
+2% to Experience Gained
Socketed (3)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 124
Item Level: 80
Innate Fire Damage: (13.0% of Strength)
10% Chance to cast level 12 Spike Nova on Melee Attack
75% Attack Speed
Adds (285 to 290)-(450 to 460) Fire Damage
+(21 to 25) Life after each Kill
+3% to Experience Gained
Socketed (3)Iceflayer?. I used Oni no Ona, damage is great. While King of the Dreadlands gives the much-needed life after each killIceflayer
Crystal Sword (4)
Required Level: 11
Required Dexterity: 73
Item Level: 18
Innate Cold Damage: (10.0% of Dexterity)
+1 to Paladin Skill Levels
+1 to Druid Skill Levels
15% Attack Speed
Adds 7-10 Cold Damage
-(3 to 5)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
(3 to 5)% to Dexterity
Physical Damage Reduced by (5 to 10)
Socketed (2)
Required Level: 30
Required Dexterity: 110
Item Level: 33
Innate Cold Damage: (10.0% of Dexterity)
+2 to Paladin Skill Levels
+2 to Druid Skill Levels
30% Attack Speed
Adds 20-30 Cold Damage
-(6 to 10)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
(9 to 11)% to Dexterity
Physical Damage Reduced by (15 to 25)
Socketed (4)
Required Level: 48
Required Dexterity: 216
Item Level: 53
Innate Cold Damage: (10.0% of Dexterity)
+3 to Paladin Skill Levels
+3 to Druid Skill Levels
45% Attack Speed
Adds 60-90 Cold Damage
-(11 to 15)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
(15 to 17)% to Dexterity
Physical Damage Reduced by (31 to 40)
Socketed (5)
Required Level: 57
Required Dexterity: 427
Item Level: 90
Innate Cold Damage: (10.0% of Dexterity)
+4 to Paladin Skill Levels
+4 to Druid Skill Levels
60% Attack Speed
Adds 240-360 Cold Damage
-(16 to 20)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
(18 to 20)% to Dexterity
Physical Damage Reduced by (41 to 50)
Socketed (6)
Armor:Jitan's Kamonfor tri-elemental damageJitan's Kamon
Splint Mail (4)
Defense: (184 - 208) to (370 - 418)
Required Level: 6
Required Strength: 30
Item Level: 10
2% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds 2-4 Fire Damage
Adds 2-4 Lightning Damage
Adds 2-4 Cold Damage
+(24 to 40)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 2%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (592 - 656) to (1106 - 1225)
Required Level: 23
Required Strength: 60
Item Level: 27
4% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds (4 to 8)-(8 to 15) Fire Damage
Adds (4 to 8)-(8 to 15) Lightning Damage
Adds (4 to 8)-(8 to 15) Cold Damage
+(58 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 3%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1466 - 1596) to (2663 - 2898)
Required Level: 41
Required Strength: 210
Item Level: 48
6% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds (16 to 30)-(31 to 45) Fire Damage
Adds (16 to 30)-(31 to 45) Lightning Damage
Adds (16 to 30)-(31 to 45) Cold Damage
+(92 to 109)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 4%
Socketed (5)
Defense: (2175 - 2352) to (3925 - 4244)
Required Level: 49
Required Strength: 420
Item Level: 82
8% Chance to cast level 1 Guard Tower on Kill
Adds (31 to 60)-(81 to 120) Fire Damage
Adds (31 to 60)-(81 to 120) Lightning Damage
Adds (31 to 60)-(81 to 120) Cold Damage
+(109 to 126)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 5%
Socketed (6)
I find ele barb can melt almost anything using Primordial Strike during the early game (provided he does not die first). So saving some item slots for attack rating and survival can be viable.
Diaco wrote:
A couple comments on that small guide:
1) eagle stance is a waste of skill points before the end game. 20% IED translates to 5% extra conversion with t1-4 weapons and 8% for sacred. This is a negligible increase in damage unless you have over 2-3k str/dex. On the other hand elementalist is quite squishy, so you'll benefit WAY more from bear stance. The survivability is night and day with bear stance. Also if you go for full dex+crystal sword nephalem spirit is not very useful as it adds light/fire DMG.
2) Your weapon is the least relevant source of damage. I'm literally farming duncraig easily with a random rare sacred throwing axe (which I strongly recommend over Ono and mammen axe because you only need 80 IAS for the max fpa). Also throwing axe unlike the others can spawn on striking procs instead of on attack, which is great because Primordial strike multihits like crazy. It also lets you use a shield which can solve resistance issues and provide even more STR bonuses. Your gear should be entirely concentrated on STR bonuses, so you wantSteel GolemSteel Golem
Gothic Plate (4)
Defense: (313 - 364) to (629 - 731)
Required Level: 9
Required Strength: 36 to 37
Item Level: 15
25% Hit Recovery
Stun Attack
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(35 to 57)% Enhanced Defense
(7 to 10)% to Strength
(7 to 10)% to Vitality
Requirements +(7 to 10)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (1017 - 1140) to (1931 - 2166)
Required Level: 27
Required Strength: 78 to 80
Item Level: 31
45% Hit Recovery
Stun Attack
6% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(81 to 103)% Enhanced Defense
(15 to 18)% to Strength
(15 to 18)% to Vitality
Requirements +(15 to 18)%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (2542 - 2801) to (4732 - 5214)
Required Level: 45
Required Strength: 291 to 298
Item Level: 52
65% Hit Recovery
Stun Attack
7% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(126 to 149)% Enhanced Defense
(23 to 26)% to Strength
(23 to 26)% to Vitality
Requirements +(23 to 26)%
Socketed (5)
Defense: (3804 - 4140) to (7061 - 7685)
Required Level: 52
Required Strength: 600 to 614
Item Level: 87
75% Hit Recovery
Stun Attack
8% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(149 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
(27 to 30)% to Strength
(27 to 30)% to Vitality
Requirements +(27 to 30)%
Socketed (6)DeadfallDeadfall
Heavy Belt (4)
Defense: (135 - 159) to (178 - 210)
Required Level: 7
Required Strength: 36
Item Level: 11
1% Chance to cast level 2 Shower of Rocks on Kill
1% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(24 to 46)% Enhanced Defense
+(16 to 25) to Strength
Lightning Resist +(11 to 15)%
Socketed (1)
Defense: (485 - 551) to (616 - 700)
Required Level: 24
Required Strength: 62
Item Level: 28
1% Chance to cast level 4 Shower of Rocks on Kill
2% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(69 to 92)% Enhanced Defense
+(36 to 45) to Strength
Lightning Resist +(21 to 25)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (1270 - 1400) to (1595 - 1758)
Required Level: 41
Required Strength: 218
Item Level: 48
1% Chance to cast level 8 Shower of Rocks on Kill
3% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(115 to 137)% Enhanced Defense
+(56 to 65) to Strength
Lightning Resist +(31 to 35)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (1918 - 2095) to (2403 - 2626)
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 436
Item Level: 84
1% Chance to cast level 12 Shower of Rocks on Kill
4% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(138 to 160)% Enhanced Defense
+(66 to 75) to Strength
Lightning Resist +(36 to 40)%
Socketed (2)Death Spurand stuff like that. For gloves your best bet is honorific with str MOs. Also MO life on attack and %AR on your weapon as soon as you can.Death Spur
Heavy Boots (4)
Defense: 27 to 39
Required Level: 3
Required Strength: 27
Item Level: 5
1% Chance to cast level 6 Spike Nova on Kill
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+0.09375 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+(11 to 15) to Strength
+(11 to 15) to Dexterity
Socketed (1)
Defense: 109 to 141
Required Level: 20
Required Strength: 55
Item Level: 24
1% Chance to cast level 10 Spike Nova on Kill
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+0.15625 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+(21 to 25) to Strength
+(21 to 25) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
Defense: 248 to 310
Required Level: 38
Required Strength: 193
Item Level: 44
1% Chance to cast level 14 Spike Nova on Kill
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+0.21875 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+(31 to 35) to Strength
+(31 to 35) to Dexterity
Socketed (3)
Defense: 346 to 427
Required Level: 46
Required Strength: 386
Item Level: 77
1% Chance to cast level 16 Spike Nova on Kill
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+0.25 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+(36 to 40) to Strength
+(36 to 40) to Dexterity
Socketed (4)