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Maertsy
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Ice Lance skill in version 2.2.0 changelog:
Increases and reductions to weapon physical damage now count as cold spell damage for this skill

Can you please explain: what is weapon physical damage increase and reduction?
Flat TTAD? Flat physical dam reduction (MO on armulets)? Physical resist?
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Maertsy wrote:Ice Lance skill in version 2.2.0 changelog:
Increases and reductions to weapon physical damage now count as cold spell damage for this skill

Can you please explain: what is weapon physical damage increase and reduction?
Flat TTAD? Flat physical dam reduction (MO on armulets)? Physical resist?


It refers to the affix: "Enhanced Weapon damage"

but only from buffs and the affix itself counts towards it. The EWD stat from Weapons based on the scaling stat - as well %str and %dex from items like
Candlewake
Candlewake
Splint Mail (Sacred)

Defense: (8032 - 9339) to (11077 - 12593)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 600
Item Level: 105
-2% Base Block Chance
Additional Strength Damage Bonus: 0.0390625%
-(11 to 15)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+(1500 to 3500) Defense
(10 to 25)% to Strength
(50 to 100)% Bonus to Defense
Cannot Be Frozen
(1/2 chance to appear)
Socketed (6)
or
Shroud Royal
Shroud Royal
Full Plate Mail (4)

Defense: (336 - 390) to (676 - 786)
Required Level: 11
Required Strength: 35
Item Level: 29
Additional Strength Damage Bonus: 0.01171875%
+(1 to 2) to Vanquish
+(35 to 57)% Enhanced Defense
(3 to 5)% to All Attributes
Physical Damage Reduced by (7 to 10)
(6 to 8)% Gold Find
(6 to 8)% Magic Find
Socketed (2)
Defense: (1082 - 1213) to (2067 - 2318)
Required Level: 28
Required Strength: 70
Item Level: 40
Additional Strength Damage Bonus: 0.015625%
+(5 to 6) to Vanquish
+(81 to 103)% Enhanced Defense
(9 to 11)% to All Attributes
Physical Damage Reduced by (15 to 18)
(10 to 12)% Gold Find
(10 to 12)% Magic Find
Socketed (4)
Defense: (2707 - 2983) to (5055 - 5570)
Required Level: 46
Required Strength: 245
Item Level: 67
Additional Strength Damage Bonus: 0.01953125%
+(9 to 10) to Vanquish
+(126 to 149)% Enhanced Defense
(15 to 17)% to All Attributes
Physical Damage Reduced by (23 to 26)
(14 to 16)% Gold Find
(14 to 16)% Magic Find
Socketed (5)
Defense: (4043 - 4401) to (7534 - 8200)
Required Level: 54
Required Strength: 490
Item Level: 85
Additional Strength Damage Bonus: 0.0234375%
+(11 to 12) to Vanquish
+(149 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
(18 to 20)% to All Attributes
Physical Damage Reduced by (27 to 30)
(18 to 20)% Gold Find
(18 to 20)% Magic Find
Socketed (6)
do not count.
Basically the base damage of the spell is lowered but cold spell damage and EWD are now added as effective cold spell damage for that skill.
Rest of it scales like any other ordinary cold spell.
Nheleo
Lava Lord
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Maertsy wrote:Ice Lance skill in version 2.2.0 changelog:
Increases and reductions to weapon physical damage now count as cold spell damage for this skill

Can you please explain: what is weapon physical damage increase and reduction?
Flat TTAD? Flat physical dam reduction (MO on armulets)? Physical resist?


this skill proc on
Chillstring
Chillstring
Hunter's Bow (Sacred)

Two-Hand Damage: (140 - 168) to (147 - 177)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 425
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.13 per Dexterity)%
Gematria
(Bonus for each Socketed Great/Elemental Rune)
Adds 10-15 Damage
-10% to Enemy Cold Resist
Adds 100-200 Cold Damage
7% Chance to cast level 45 Ice Lance on Striking
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
Maximum Lightning Resist +(1 to 2)%
Maximum Cold Resist +(1 to 2)%
+(1 to 4) Life on Striking
Cannot Be Frozen
5% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (6)
&
Coldhunger
Coldhunger
Wolf Head (Sacred)

Defense: (1842 - 2082) to (1915 - 2165)
(Druid Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 105
4% Chance to cast level 40 Ice Lance on Striking
+(1 to 2) to Druid Skill Levels
Adds 13-38 Damage
Adds 30-35 Cold Damage
(14 to 17)% Life stolen per Hit
-(29 to 35)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(115 to 143)% Enhanced Defense
+(41 to 50) to Dexterity
+(41 to 50) to Vitality
Cold Resist +(30 to 50)%
Socketed (4)
with Bowdruid is so funny & amazing :mrgreen:
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Nheleo wrote:
Maertsy wrote:Ice Lance skill in version 2.2.0 changelog:
Increases and reductions to weapon physical damage now count as cold spell damage for this skill

Can you please explain: what is weapon physical damage increase and reduction?
Flat TTAD? Flat physical dam reduction (MO on armulets)? Physical resist?


this skill proc on
Chillstring
Chillstring
Hunter's Bow (Sacred)

Two-Hand Damage: (140 - 168) to (147 - 177)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 425
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.13 per Dexterity)%
Gematria
(Bonus for each Socketed Great/Elemental Rune)
Adds 10-15 Damage
-10% to Enemy Cold Resist
Adds 100-200 Cold Damage
7% Chance to cast level 45 Ice Lance on Striking
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
Maximum Lightning Resist +(1 to 2)%
Maximum Cold Resist +(1 to 2)%
+(1 to 4) Life on Striking
Cannot Be Frozen
5% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (6)
&
Coldhunger
Coldhunger
Wolf Head (Sacred)

Defense: (1842 - 2082) to (1915 - 2165)
(Druid Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 105
4% Chance to cast level 40 Ice Lance on Striking
+(1 to 2) to Druid Skill Levels
Adds 13-38 Damage
Adds 30-35 Cold Damage
(14 to 17)% Life stolen per Hit
-(29 to 35)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(115 to 143)% Enhanced Defense
+(41 to 50) to Dexterity
+(41 to 50) to Vitality
Cold Resist +(30 to 50)%
Socketed (4)
with Bowdruid is so funny & amazing :mrgreen:


What exactly is so amazing about it? :)
Maertsy
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Thanks, Mortimer.

Yes, Nheleo.
I've just tried Chillstring & Coldhunger & Cryo Beam -quiver today. Cryo Beam's freezing is the best support for Ice Lance, since Ice Lance projectile need to accelerate.

I specced to focus on cold spells procs.
- Get some fire pierce because it'd be added as cold pierce, thanks to Hunter tree.
- Get some % cold spell.
- Put a lot of attr points to energy.
- Invest to minion res to get the 750% EWD from the bear's passive.
- Use the ultimate skill that gives spell focus.

The result was somewhere okay ish, but it's not as strong as I expected.

@Mortimer_85 does the 750% added EWD count for Ice Lance? It seems not.
Nheleo
Lava Lord
97 | 12
Maertsy wrote:Thanks, Mortimer.

Yes, Nheleo.
I've just tried Chillstring & Coldhunger & Cryo Beam -quiver today. Cryo Beam's freezing is the best support for Ice Lance, since Ice Lance projectile need to accelerate.

I specced to focus on cold spells procs.
- Get some fire pierce because it'd be added as cold pierce, thanks to Hunter tree.
- Get some % cold spell.
- Put a lot of attr points to energy.
- Invest to minion res to get the 750% EWD from the bear's passive.
- Use the ultimate skill that gives spell focus.

The result was somewhere okay ish, but it's not as strong as I expected.

@Mortimer_85 does the 750% added EWD count for Ice Lance? It seems not.


yes, it does, i test with Ice Lance oskill, skill damage increase when i put some points in Primal Bond.
Cryo Beam proc on quiver is so cool, but i prefer
Bag of Tricks
Bag of Tricks
Arrow Quiver

Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
1% Chance to cast level 7 Goblin Glee on Kill
3% Chance to cast level 1 Knife Throw on Striking
3% Chance to cast level 1 Arrow on Striking
3% Chance to cast level 1 Javelin on Striking
for proc on proc :mrgreen:

Muilpeer wrote:
What exactly is so amazing about it? :)


with 10% proc on striking, i use oskill Split Arrow, it proc beautiful :mrgreen:
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Nheleo wrote:
Maertsy wrote:Thanks, Mortimer.

Yes, Nheleo.
I've just tried Chillstring & Coldhunger & Cryo Beam -quiver today. Cryo Beam's freezing is the best support for Ice Lance, since Ice Lance projectile need to accelerate.

I specced to focus on cold spells procs.
- Get some fire pierce because it'd be added as cold pierce, thanks to Hunter tree.
- Get some % cold spell.
- Put a lot of attr points to energy.
- Invest to minion res to get the 750% EWD from the bear's passive.
- Use the ultimate skill that gives spell focus.

The result was somewhere okay ish, but it's not as strong as I expected.

@Mortimer_85 does the 750% added EWD count for Ice Lance? It seems not.


yes, it does, i test with Ice Lance oskill, skill damage increase when i put some points in Primal Bond.
Cryo Beam proc on quiver is so cool, but i prefer
Bag of Tricks
Bag of Tricks
Arrow Quiver

Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
1% Chance to cast level 7 Goblin Glee on Kill
3% Chance to cast level 1 Knife Throw on Striking
3% Chance to cast level 1 Arrow on Striking
3% Chance to cast level 1 Javelin on Striking
for proc on proc :mrgreen:

Muilpeer wrote:
What exactly is so amazing about it? :)


with 10% proc on striking, i use oskill Split Arrow, it proc beautiful :mrgreen:


Nice, already had the helmet, also have bag of tricks, and just found Chillstring.

The only thing I don't know is where to get split arrow from. Any tips? Just got my druid to lvl 115.
Nheleo
Lava Lord
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Muilpeer wrote:
The only thing I don't know is where to get split arrow from. Any tips? Just got my druid to lvl 115.


Relic (Split Arrow)
Relic
Required Level: 75
Split Arrow: +8 Projectiles
+(13 to 24) to Split Arrow
(6 to 10)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Fleshstinger
Fleshstinger
Short War Bow (Sacred)

Two-Hand Damage: (203 - 265) to (324 - 415)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 590
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.13 per Dexterity)%
4% Chance to cast level 20 Heartseeker on Kill
+(1 to 4) to Barbarian Skill Levels
+(1 to 4) to Sorceress Skill Levels
+(1 to 4) to Paladin Skill Levels
Adds (40 to 75)-(140 to 200) Damage
(50 to 200)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+100% Damage to Demons
+(140 to 180)% Enhanced Damage
+(15 to 30) to Split Arrow
4% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (6)
. if not, you can try with Arrow Swarm
Relic (Arrow Swarm)
Relic
Required Level: 75
Arrow Swarm: +2 Projectiles
Adds 5-10 Damage
+(4 to 9) to Arrow Swarm
& Quiver, farm or single target are still good.
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Nheleo wrote:
Muilpeer wrote:
The only thing I don't know is where to get split arrow from. Any tips? Just got my druid to lvl 115.


Relic (Split Arrow)
Relic
Required Level: 75
Split Arrow: +8 Projectiles
+(13 to 24) to Split Arrow
(6 to 10)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Fleshstinger
Fleshstinger
Short War Bow (Sacred)

Two-Hand Damage: (203 - 265) to (324 - 415)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 590
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.13 per Dexterity)%
4% Chance to cast level 20 Heartseeker on Kill
+(1 to 4) to Barbarian Skill Levels
+(1 to 4) to Sorceress Skill Levels
+(1 to 4) to Paladin Skill Levels
Adds (40 to 75)-(140 to 200) Damage
(50 to 200)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+100% Damage to Demons
+(140 to 180)% Enhanced Damage
+(15 to 30) to Split Arrow
4% Reanimate as: Random Monster
Socketed (6)
. if not, you can try with Arrow Swarm
Relic (Arrow Swarm)
Relic
Required Level: 75
Arrow Swarm: +2 Projectiles
Adds 5-10 Damage
+(4 to 9) to Arrow Swarm
& Quiver, farm or single target are still good.


Ahhh, so I need a relic. Dang, I don't think I'll manage in that case. Werewolf is also nice for now. Maybe I'll find it eventually.

What's the best place to find relics? Fauzt?
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