Batsin. Looking for recommendations

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Johnny Impak
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As title suggests, looking for guidance about this build, since I didn’t find any information in the guide section.
I have general knowledge of the game, but always had a hard time playing assassins. Made it to lvl 115, which for me is an achievement.

Here is what I have so far:

Weapon:
Hellfeast
Hellfeast
Cestus (4)

One-Hand Damage: (11 - 12) to (15 - 17)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 6
Required Dexterity: 39
Item Level: 8
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.21 per Dexterity)%
+(24 to 40)% Enhanced Damage
Adds 3-6 damage
(4 to 5)% Life stolen per Hit
+(2 to 3) to Batstrike (Assassin Only)
+25% to Summoned Minion Life
+33% to Summoned Minion Damage
Socketed (1)
One-Hand Damage: (26 - 28) to (35 - 38)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 24
Required Dexterity: 63
Item Level: 27
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.21 per Dexterity)%
+(58 to 75)% Enhanced Damage
Adds 6-12 damage
(6 to 8)% Life stolen per Hit
+(5 to 8) to Batstrike (Assassin Only)
+50% to Summoned Minion Life
+66% to Summoned Minion Damage
Socketed (2)
One-Hand Damage: (50 - 53) to (68 - 72)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 42
Required Dexterity: 128
Item Level: 47
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.21 per Dexterity)%
+(92 to 109)% Enhanced Damage
Adds 12-24 damage
(9 to 12)% Life stolen per Hit
+(9 to 11) to Batstrike (Assassin Only)
+75% to Summoned Minion Life
+99% to Summoned Minion Damage
Socketed (2)
One-Hand Damage: (72 - 75) to (92 - 97)
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 52
Required Dexterity: 255
Item Level: 82
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.21 per Dexterity)%
+(109 to 126)% Enhanced Damage
Adds 24-36 damage
(13 to 15)% Life stolen per Hit
+(13 to 15) to Batstrike (Assassin Only)
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+130% to Summoned Minion Damage
Socketed (3)
Sockets: Perfect Rubies for life on attack. Mo’d with ed and deadly strike. No Sacred Scizors katar found yet.

Armor:
Sharkbaiter
Sharkbaiter
Ring Mail (4)

Defense: (111 - 127) to (226 - 259)
Required Level: 4
Required Strength: 37
Item Level: 6
1% Chance to cast level 6 Bloodlust on Death Blow
+10% Bonus Damage to Bloodlust
5% Attack Speed
(2 to 3)% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(31 to 50)% Enhanced Defense
+(11 to 15) to Strength
+(6 to 10) Life on Attack
Socketed (2)
Defense: (410 - 456) to (735 - 817)
Required Level: 21
Required Strength: 55
Item Level: 25
1% Chance to cast level 18 Bloodlust on Death Blow
+20% Bonus Damage to Bloodlust
15% Attack Speed
(4 to 5)% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(71 to 90)% Enhanced Defense
+(21 to 25) to Strength
+(16 to 20) Life on Attack
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1021 - 1117) to (1744 - 1909)
Required Level: 39
Required Strength: 115
Item Level: 45
1% Chance to cast level 30 Bloodlust on Death Blow
+30% Bonus Damage to Bloodlust
25% Attack Speed
(6 to 7)% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(101 to 120)% Enhanced Defense
+(31 to 35) to Strength
+(26 to 30) Life on Attack
Socketed (5)
Defense: (1591 - 1722) to (2718 - 2942)
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 237
Item Level: 79
1% Chance to cast level 36 Bloodlust on Death Blow
+40% Bonus Damage to Bloodlust
30% Attack Speed
(7 to 8)% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(131 to 150)% Enhanced Defense
+(36 to 40) to Strength
+(36 to 40) Life on Attack
Socketed (6)

Boots:
Lionpaw
Lionpaw
Chain Boots (4)

Defense: (49 - 54) to (71 - 78)
Required Level: 4
Required Strength: 44
Item Level: 7
(0 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+(7 to 10) to all Attributes
+(31 to 50) to Life
+(31 to 50) to Mana
Total Character Defense (3 to 5)%
10% Gold Find
Socketed (1)
Defense: (203 - 218) to (267 - 288)
Required Level: 22
Required Strength: 65
Item Level: 25
(0 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+(15 to 18) to all Attributes
+(71 to 90) to Life
+(71 to 90) to Mana
Total Character Defense (9 to 11)%
15% Gold Find
Socketed (2)
Defense: (519 - 554) to (667 - 712)
Required Level: 39
Required Strength: 137
Item Level: 46
(0 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+(23 to 26) to all Attributes
+(111 to 130) to Life
+(111 to 130) to Mana
Total Character Defense (15 to 17)%
20% Gold Find
Socketed (3)
Defense: (759 - 807) to (974 - 1036)
Required Level: 48
Required Strength: 282
Item Level: 79
(0 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+(31 to 35) to all Attributes
+(131 to 150) to Life
+(131 to 150) to Mana
Total Character Defense (18 to 20)%
25% Gold Find
Socketed (4)

Belt:
Wormtongue
Wormtongue
Light Belt (4)

Defense: (53 - 58) to (71 - 78)
Required Level: 3
Required Strength: 27
Item Level: 5
(31 to 50)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 5-13 poison damage over 2 seconds
(2 to 4)% Life stolen per Hit
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+(11 to 15) to Dexterity
Socketed (1)
Defense: (214 - 231) to (259 - 279)
Required Level: 21
Required Strength: 40
Item Level: 24
(71 to 90)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 19-50 poison damage over 2 seconds
(8 to 10)% Life stolen per Hit
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+(21 to 25) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
Defense: (544 - 581) to (649 - 693)
Required Level: 38
Required Strength: 83
Item Level: 45
(111 to 130)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 75-150 poison damage over 2 seconds
(14 to 16)% Life stolen per Hit
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+(31 to 35) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
Defense: (801 - 851) to (946 - 1006)
Required Level: 46
Required Strength: 173
Item Level: 77
(131 to 150)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 100-250 poison damage over 2 seconds
(17 to 19)% Life stolen per Hit
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+(36 to 40) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)

Gloves:
Featherclaw
Featherclaw
Chain Gloves (4)

Defense: (28 - 30) to (49 - 54)
Required Level: 5
Required Strength: 38
Item Level: 8
5% Attack Speed
(21 to 50)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+(6 to 10) to Dexterity
Socketed (1)
Defense: (149 - 161) to (203 - 218)
Required Level: 22
Required Strength: 56
Item Level: 26
15% Attack Speed
(81 to 110)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+(16 to 20) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
Defense: (393 - 420) to (519 - 554)
Required Level: 40
Required Strength: 118
Item Level: 46
25% Attack Speed
(141 to 170)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+(26 to 30) to Dexterity
Socketed (3)
Defense: (581 - 617) to (759 - 807)
Required Level: 48
Required Strength: 244
Item Level: 80
30% Attack Speed
(171 to 200)% Bonus to Attack Rating
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+(31 to 35) to Dexterity
Socketed (4)

Helm:
Topspin
Topspin
Skull Cap (4)

Defense: (76 - 83) to (115 - 125)
Required Level: 3
Required Strength: 25
Item Level: 4
5% Attack Speed
+(31 to 50)% Enhanced Defense
(3 to 5)% to Dexterity
(3 to 5)% to Energy
+(31 to 50) Defense
Maximum Elemental Resists +1%
Total Character Defense 10%
Socketed (1)
Defense: (277 - 301) to (365 - 397)
Required Level: 20
Required Strength: 37
Item Level: 23
15% Attack Speed
+(61 to 80)% Enhanced Defense
(6 to 8)% to Dexterity
(6 to 8)% to Energy
+(71 to 100) Defense
Maximum Elemental Resists +1%
Total Character Defense 20%
Socketed (3)
Defense: (704 - 760) to (876 - 943)
Required Level: 37
Required Strength: 78
Item Level: 43
25% Attack Speed
+(91 to 110)% Enhanced Defense
(9 to 11)% to Dexterity
(9 to 11)% to Energy
+(151 to 200) Defense
Maximum Elemental Resists +2%
Total Character Defense 30%
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1182 - 1258) to (1471 - 1564)
Required Level: 47
Required Strength: 160
Item Level: 78
30% Attack Speed
+(121 to 140)% Enhanced Defense
(12 to 14)% to Dexterity
(12 to 14)% to Energy
+(301 to 400) Defense
Maximum Elemental Resists +2%
Total Character Defense 40%
Socketed (4)

Shield:
Astrogha's Eye
Astrogha's Eye
Parma (4)

Defense: (78 - 90) to (151 - 174)
Chance to Block: 4%
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 5
Required Strength: 22
Required Dexterity: 45
Item Level: 7
Adds 5-10 damage
+(101 to 150)% Damage to Demons
+(101 to 150)% Damage to Undead
+(31 to 50)% Enhanced Defense
+(3 to 5) Life on Attack
(2 to 3)% Reanimate as: Soul Spider
Socketed (1)
Defense: (294 - 344) to (495 - 580)
Chance to Block: 4%
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 22
Required Strength: 32
Required Dexterity: 67
Item Level: 26
Adds 10-15 damage
+(151 to 200)% Damage to Demons
+(151 to 200)% Damage to Undead
+(71 to 100)% Enhanced Defense
+(9 to 11) Life on Attack
(4 to 5)% Reanimate as: Soul Spider
Socketed (3)
Defense: (795 - 864) to (1297 - 1408)
Chance to Block: 4%
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 40
Required Strength: 68
Required Dexterity: 139
Item Level: 46
Adds 15-20 damage
+(201 to 250)% Damage to Demons
+(201 to 250)% Damage to Undead
+(121 to 140)% Enhanced Defense
+(15 to 17) Life on Attack
(6 to 7)% Reanimate as: Soul Spider
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1281 - 1473) to (2090 - 2403)
Chance to Block: 4%
(Assassin Only)
Required Level: 49
Required Strength: 141
Required Dexterity: 288
Item Level: 81
Adds 20-25 damage
+(251 to 300)% Damage to Demons
+(251 to 300)% Damage to Undead
+(161 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+(18 to 20) Life on Attack
(7 to 8)% Reanimate as: Soul Spider
Socketed (4)


Sockets for all are resist gems, Mo’d with FHR and a bit of FBR. ( I know I should be putting dexterity stuff in there, planning on doing it on crafts.)

Jewelry is 2x
Empyrean Band
Empyrean Band
Ring

Required Level: 40
Item Level: 40
1% Chance to cast level 7 Singularity on Kill
(3 to 5)% to All Attributes
Increase Maximum Life and Mana 10%
(5 to 15)% Gold Find
, Mo’d with DR, MF and poison lenght reduction. Ammy is
Angel Heart
Angel Heart
Amulet

Required Level: 40
Item Level: 40
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
(5 to 10)% to Strength
(5 to 10)% to Dexterity
Total Character Defense (15 to 25)%
+(3 to 5) to Light Radius
. Same mo’s.

Maxed Skills: Perfect Being.
Batstrike
Prismatic Cloak
Doom
15 points: Shadow Refuge
11 points: Blink for 2.5 seconds timer.
1 point: Beacon and pre-requisites.
Edited by Johnny Impak 1 year.
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Johnny Impak
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From my experimentation, Maxed Doom and Batstrike deals more damage than maxed WOTP and WOTG combined.

Did all lvl 105 and 110 ubers, except from King Koth, which is litteraly impossible for me at the moment.

Now that this block of text is done, what should I look for on crafts ? Skillwise, anything I can do except lowering Shadow Refuge related to my gear’s DR% ?

Merc is A5 with standard strength gear.

Any suggestion is welcome.
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Just to confirm, you're not intending to use Noctule right? It's a great melee skill and works fantastic with Doom's TTAD. But I understand if not.

The other question is, with Batstrike, are you looking to be the main damage dealer and have your bats as tanks? Or to have them be your primary damage dealers (and tank) while you chill out behind them? Im a pleb, but i think you'll find the later to be a better option once you can get a few bats summoned. And if you do that, i would opt for some more defensive gear pieces. Toodles.
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Johnny Impak wrote:
Any suggestion is welcome.
wait for a patch in which the melee assassins will be fixed . at the moment Batstrike is still very far from what it used to be some years ago , reason why you fail in 110- 115 ubers , you can just imagine what happens next (unless you can twink ). Noctule builds and TFS builds are more efficient if you want to play as claw+shield , but not even they can manage to do everything without feeling any pain . melee 'sin is squishy , regardless if claw or naginata .
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I can agree with chuck, even noctule feels realy bad in terms of aoe damage. I dont find melee sins squishy, after they reach 50% block they are kind of tanky. Ive seen a nagi sin who had no problem to survive in rift 10+
But after all if you go with noctule it just feels wrong. And imo Noctule >>> batstrike.

I dont realy know how to build a batsrike sin. Dont you play it like a summon char with minion dmg / minion life gear ?

As for skills, i would recommend you to skip doom ( 250+ dmg per hit is no big deal) and max tiefling form. Sure you lose def. But after reaching max block and with your minions around you you shouldnt have problems to survive at all. Tiefling provides you lots of dex and +~6 all skills
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Johnny Impak
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I use bats as secondary targets, blinking in to stun mobs, activating SR and Bloodbath, then charge 3 times to release.

Damage output is great considering T4 gear is used. Finding abandoned shrines and Sacred scissors katar in rare format is the main roadblock here. Although Batstrike as a skill is surprisingly powerful against anything not possessing magic resist.

I can do K3BA easily, admitting I play smartly. It is what I consider makes the assassin cool to play. Skill-switch heavy, planned blinks and everything is fine.

Then I tried Library of Fate aka Khalimgrad. I get 2 shotted with SR on. I’ll farm gear, I cannot go any further with my trash :?

Manu: I did not put points in doom for the added damage. I want the - enemy magic resist. 3 charges of Batstrike makes a Thorn Wall like thing appear, dealing 200% weapon damage 25 times/ sec. 100% magic damage conversion
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Can anyone comment that has gone 100% Batstrike summons? This is something I'd be interested in trying.
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I suspect an interesting way to go about this would be
Undead Crown
Undead Crown
Crown (Sacred)

Defense: 4437 to 4914
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 606
Item Level: 120
6% of Minion Damage Increases Added as Deadly Strike
40% of Minion Life Increases Added as Total Character Defense
Your Attacks Ignore the Physical Resistance of the Undead
Deal No Crushing Blows
Orb Effects Applied to this Item are Doubled
50% Attack Speed
+200% Enhanced Defense
Socketed (4)
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tranvanhieu
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I played a Bat sin several patches ago.

I remember the Bats can be totally immune to Poison (innate), Fire, Cold, Light (with 100% minion resist), and with S-max Perfect being, they can survive anything, only Magic damage can really hurt them. Tankiest summon ever.

I tested on this patch, when I hoover the mouse to them (with 100% minion resist on Normal difficulty), the text only show "Poison immune".

So I am not sure if they are still Elemental-immune.
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Johnny Impak
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Pretty sure they are not. Will try with more minion resistances. As for now, they mainly serve as meatshields. They are good at that too.