SSF Bowzon

WARBANDIT30 wrote:Hi im not an amazon player but i want to refill my arrow quiver how do i do this ? (Also sorry for stupid question cant find a thread that answers me)

I don't think you can

Casting bow skills will not deplete your quiver, they only lose charges if you shoot with normal attacks.

My magic life steal quiver is sitting at 145 arrows. So basically every time I enter a game it says ´low ammunition’.

So Wulf, if I did read properly, the best bow in the entire game would be a near perfect min-max 200 ed craft with good mods alongside it ? Icebreaker does an amazing job.

Hi, perhaps a stupid question, but I was lucky enough to grab an auhe from my hellforge. Is stardust competitive with a good craft? I know its better than the TU, but is that good enough for farming duncraig/teganze/fauzt/toraja if i'd prefer to save the shrines for another character?

smitespecced wrote:Hi, perhaps a stupid question, but I was lucky enough to grab an auhe from my hellforge. Is stardust competitive with a good craft? I know its better than the TU, but is that good enough for farming duncraig/teganze/fauzt/toraja if i'd prefer to save the shrines for another character?

No, that's an elemental bow. Tu4 would still be better. You would not be able to leech to survive with it.

Noticed you have the blust shield on swap, i think it's better off using just a 2 skill (ber rw) for prebuff since that blust is a lower damage proc and if you get it over the koth your damage goes down. Could be wrong as this was tested years ago.

If you check sheet after prebuff then it's irrelevant since you can just re prebuff if you got the lower value one anyway.

PS. secondary question, last i played bowa was 9 months ago and it was still pretty bad even after changes (bad in the sense of speed farming p5-p8 content solo and uber dps was very bad in comparison to other builds. So since then what has changed that it's better now (some of the patch notes wont load for whatever reason).

Controlledanger wrote:Noticed you have the blust shield on swap, i think it's better off using just a 2 skill (ber rw) for prebuff since that blust is a lower damage proc and if you get it over the koth your damage goes down. Could be wrong as this was tested years ago.

If you check sheet after prebuff then it's irrelevant since you can just re prebuff if you got the lower value one anyway.

PS. secondary question, last i played bowa was 9 months ago and it was still pretty bad even after changes (bad in the sense of speed farming p5-p8 content solo and uber dps was very bad in comparison to other builds. So since then what has changed that it's better now (some of the patch notes wont load for whatever reason).

Haven't tested p5-p8. I can do fauzt in 5 min and dunc in 4. Uber dps is great. Phalanx is very strong at fcr breakpoints, barrage is as well with raw dmg. Rapid wyrm on askarbydd is also very great for Ubers. Not sure what has changed but the build is good at everything and doesn't falter in anything but lack of defense until you have high hp.

Ubers you struggle on are the given ones where only your defense matters. Kos, laz, void, witch etc. Spirit of guyua is our hardest Uber other than those.

Johnny Impak wrote:My magic life steal quiver is sitting at 145 arrows. So basically every time I enter a game it says ´low ammunition’.

So Wulf, if I did read properly, the best bow in the entire game would be a near perfect min-max 200 ed craft with good mods alongside it ? Icebreaker does an amazing job.

Best dmg bow in the game would be a luckied, double aban (24%dex) craft with 200ed/120min/320max/arrow or knife proc. That would massacre ice breaker's dmg. Could also put 6 Taha or 6 Xis runes in it if you had a mind to it.

Alternatively, you could get something cute like 2 inti shrine bonuses (100ed, 8ds) with 120min+60ed/320max/proc/another prefix like 15%ls or 60mf or 50ias, but you'd have to use a handful of ed MO's.

Controlledanger wrote:Noticed you have the blust shield on swap, i think it's better off using just a 2 skill (ber rw) for prebuff since that blust is a lower damage proc and if you get it over the koth your damage goes down. Could be wrong as this was tested years ago.

If you check sheet after prebuff then it's irrelevant since you can just re prebuff if you got the lower value one anyway.

PS. secondary question, last i played bowa was 9 months ago and it was still pretty bad even after changes (bad in the sense of speed farming p5-p8 content solo and uber dps was very bad in comparison to other builds. So since then what has changed that it's better now (some of the patch notes wont load for whatever reason).

The bl shield on swap isn't for the on-kill proc, its for the +15% dmg to bloodlust (that applied to both your innate and tu4 mace bloodlust for a total of 30ewd).

Cant answer your 2nd question as ive never farmed anything that wasnt p1 content.

Acry wrote:
Controlledanger wrote:Noticed you have the blust shield on swap, i think it's better off using just a 2 skill (ber rw) for prebuff since that blust is a lower damage proc and if you get it over the koth your damage goes down. Could be wrong as this was tested years ago.

If you check sheet after prebuff then it's irrelevant since you can just re prebuff if you got the lower value one anyway.

PS. secondary question, last i played bowa was 9 months ago and it was still pretty bad even after changes (bad in the sense of speed farming p5-p8 content solo and uber dps was very bad in comparison to other builds. So since then what has changed that it's better now (some of the patch notes wont load for whatever reason).

Haven't tested p5-p8. I can do fauzt in 5 min and dunc in 4. Uber dps is great. Phalanx is very strong at fcr breakpoints, barrage is as well with raw dmg. Rapid wyrm on askarbydd is also very great for Ubers. Not sure what has changed but the build is good at everything and doesn't falter in anything but lack of defense until you have high hp.

Ubers you struggle on are the given ones where only your defense matters. Kos, laz, void, witch etc. Spirit of guyua is our hardest Uber other than those.

If your saying uber dps is great something definitely changed, as it wasn't terrible before, it just was no where near the competition of other builds for far cheaper. I'll give it a go, have probably 2k hours in bow pre sigma and ive been waiting for it to be a bit more relevant again.

Wulf wrote:Cant answer your 2nd question as ive never farmed anything that wasnt p1 content.

Right i understand that, but i'm saying it will overwrite the koth's BL of a higher level (which scales the bl dmg as its higher level).

Double posted -_-, see last post sry.

Controlledanger wrote:Right i understand that, but i'm saying it will overwrite the koth's BL of a higher level (which scales the bl dmg as its higher level).

If I were to use Mace+Kodo, TU4 Mace BL proc gives me 183ewd. This number is factoring in 15ewd to innate BL and proc BL from shield for a total of 30ewd. If Kodo was to inadvertenly proc (17% chance to happen), I’d get 130ewd instead. So on average, I get 174ewd at all times.

If I were to use only use Mace and a random +sk shield, I would always be at 153ewd 100% of the time (remember that we also lose the 15ewd from innate BL given from shield).

So all in all, even factoring the occasional bad BL proc’ing, you’ll still have higher ewd on average using Mace+Kodo.

Did I omit something or this is sound logic?

If you want to do calculations yourself, to make your life easier: lvl 24 BL is base 108ewd and lvl 8 BL is 55ewd (not counting dmg to BL). Don't forget that dmg to BL affects both the proc and innate BL.