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Based wrote:Question...i notice that you say in the gear section some items have stats they don't have. Like you say Royal Circlet has ewd, but i see it nowhere on the item. Am i missing something? Or like how you say Knuckle has 15%ls and 25dmg when those are not the values.


dmg to undead/demons is in the form of ewd. and most monsters in this game are either undead or demons, so i just count it as ewd. some notable exceptions are robots, like necrobots/vizjun mobs.

minimum dmg or maximum dmg affect average dmg the same way. so i count min dmg and max dmg as the same affix. so 10min + 15 max = 25 dmg total. just like the triune upgraded sleep is 45 dmg (20 min 25 max).

to give you a specific example: say your base sheet dmg displays 100-200 (avg 150). having it change to 120-200 dmg (20min dmg) or 100-220 (20max dmg) ends up being the same avg dmg (160). in other words, having a bow with 430 max dmg would amount to the same average than a bow with 110 min to 320 max dmg. so i just pool both affixes together.

as for the 15ls on gk, my bad. i confused 5-10 into 15, but in reality avg is 7.5%ls. thx for bringing it to my attention, fixed :)
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, is it worth it on the weapon?
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Most detailed build so far with the milestone progression and uber quests, i have one question though, what does MO stand for ?, as a new player abbreviations don't help me much, but i'm guessing it has something to do with cubecrafting.
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cma78 wrote:Most detailed build so far with the milestone progression and uber quests, i have one question though, what does MO stand for ?, as a new player abbreviations don't help me much, but i'm guessing it has something to do with cubecrafting.

Mystic orbs.

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cma78 wrote:Most detailed build so far with the milestone progression and uber quests, i have one question though, what does MO stand for ?, as a new player abbreviations don't help me much, but i'm guessing it has something to do with cubecrafting.


Yeah it's a lot of information to process fort a new player, I'm glad you're asking questions :)

A MO (Mystic Orb) is a small bubble/upgrade you can buy from a vendor (some give you dmg, others dex, others deadly strike, etc). That small upgrade can be cubed with one of your gear. This transfers over the stat, but increases your gear's item level requirement by a bit.

For instance, this one gives you +2 maximum dmg in exchange for +4 lvls.

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I suggest to skim through the documentation (especially cube recipes). A lot of things will make more sense or give you cool ideas :)

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So I spent the last 4 days building this toon. I just dinged level 124, & my overall impression with it is that either A) Something must have changed with the build between this current patch & the patch this guide was written for, or B) I'm just a total noob and my gear is complete crap. Yea, I get it...I'm a noob, but just hear me out.

I followed the milestones to a tee, & then just hit a brick wall by the time I got to your "Mid Game" section, wherein you suggest to try doing some ubers after eating 400 sigs. I died well over 100 times trying to kill these guys (I wish I was exaggerating):

"Judgment Day → Duncraig (2zon) → Kabraxis → Quov Tsin (35str+dex) → Baal → Xazax..."



I eventually just gave up, & then swapped over to my poorly equipped starter PSN Druid build in order to grab the first 2 of those charms. I then traded them to my Bowzon, died another ~30 times trying to take down Kabraxis, & then just gave up on the ubers to attempt farming Tengaze. Well, it was so painfully slow that I decided to just farm K3K for about 9 hours straight in the hopes that I get enough shrines to carry the build along with crafts. First thing I did after crafting some gear was try running Dunc, & it was pretty much just a death simulator. Worth noting: I saw your video of you doing Dunc with gear nearly identical to my campaign leveling gear, & you literally had twice the damage that I have now after spending 12+hours crafting upgrades from that leveling gear. No clue what's going on here, but here are some pics of my gear and stats.

Update: Just tried Tengaze again after the crafts. Still sucks. Starting to wonder if the root of my problem is the massive dmg range on my bow: adds 51-310 damage. Gonna dump another few hundred shrines on another bow craft to see if that's the case.

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Rings (both identical)
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adiabloplayer
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I have almost the same gear as you except I don't even have Hratli's craft and my bow is not as good as yours. I have no problems clearing any content below 130 except for Ureh and Witch. I think you're just bad at playing the build. Are you using plalanx properly? Phalanx is such a good skill. Phalanx + Spellbind is the best way to kill bosses. Do not bother with Trinity shot or Barrage for any bosses except Baal and Butcher. Run and spam phalanx at the top of the screen. I beat Baal deathless right upon hitting 120. Kabraxis I also did deathless for the first time. Xazax was easier than Baal. Duncraig and Judgement Day are difficult however. For duncraig, you need enough dmg to kill everything on the screen. Judgement Day like Duncraig is a damage check. Don't go for the upgrade until you have a bunch of other charms. Just get the base. As for Teganze, you should be able to rely on just your reanimates for survivability. Get the windrunner boots from there. It's the earliest BIS slot you can get.

TL;DR: Use phalanx. It's good.

P.S. The reason the dmg in the videos is double is because of a change in patch 1.7. All damage was halved along with monster health. It's the same overall dmg though.

P.P.S. Upon closer inspection of your gear, you have way better gear than me lol. You shouldn't have any problems if we ignore player skill.
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I'm using Phalanx. It's great when it actually hits. I spent 25min spamming Phalanx on Kabraxis before he went down. Like 3/4 of the fight was him literally taking zero damage from that inconsistent skill.

And no, with my gear I don't come close to doing the dmg that's showcased in the videos in this forum. I have to literally spam Wyrmshot & kite to kill trash mobs in 120+ content, which also makes procing that incredibly awkward weapon swap Bloodlust so much of a pain in the ass it's arguably not even worth using. That's pretty crap considering the sheer amount of work that's needed for this build to come online with the crafts.

Overall, this build feels like shit to play. My Druid starter build equipped with dogshit TU's & a few ultra common set pieces trivialized everything this Bowzon struggled with.
adiabloplayer
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MeatSlinger3000 wrote:I'm using Phalanx. It's great when it actually hits. I spent 25min spamming Phalanx on Kabraxis before he went down. Like 3/4 of the fight was him literally taking zero damage from that inconsistent skill.

And no, with my gear I don't come close to doing the dmg that's showcased in the videos in this forum. I have to literally spam Wyrmshot & kite to kill trash mobs in 120+ content, which also makes procing that incredibly awkward weapon swap Bloodlust so much of a pain in the ass it's arguably not even worth using. That's pretty crap considering the sheer amount of work that's needed for this build to come online with the crafts.

Overall, this build feels like shit to play. My Druid starter build equipped with dogshit TU's & a few ultra common set pieces trivialized everything this Bowzon struggled with.

Interesting. With my gear, it only took 10 minutes to kill Kabraxis first try. I dealt pretty consistent damage though. You probably aren't using the skill properly. And you should also be able to kill most mobs quite easily with that kind of gear. Your reanimates will tank for you. Did you get all charms before 120 and did you consume 400 signets?

Like I stated before, the reason the dmg in the videos is double is because of a change in patch 1.7. All damage was halved along with monster health. It's the same overall dmg. His videos are from patch 1.6.

You must be doing something seriously wrong to have this much trouble.

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