Achilles - An Endgame Neutraldin Guide

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Daiug2 wrote:Gotta ask, what should we skip on now for points?

The "worst" skill seems Life and Death, but it feels so weird not placing any point into it. Any suggestions?


I've been accepting the reality of a higher DPS but less tanky Neutraldin with this patch. Would be curious to see TgTalcon's views on this subject.

I'm running:
VoJ - Max
Life and Death - Max
Demiurge - Max
VoR - Between 5 and 6 points
Rapture enough to hit FHR BP
Solstice - 10 points
Sacred armor - 10 points
Blessed life - enough for 50 phys
divine app - 1
Ressurect - 1
Absolution - 1

Has worked very well, but I'm quite sure there's room for improvement.
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Ekital wrote:
Daiug2 wrote:Gotta ask, what should we skip on now for points?

The "worst" skill seems Life and Death, but it feels so weird not placing any point into it. Any suggestions?


Smax VoJ
Smax Life and Death
Smax Demiurge
Smax Blessed Life or until you have 50% PR
7-12 Rapture
1-10 Equinox
1 Point into Ressurect,Absolution,Divine Apparitition
Rest into SA

Overall Neutraldin received approximately a 2x Dmg increase

This is the damage with very basic crafts, no crafted jewels and about 1/10th the investment. It's already approaching Collector/Adjudicator damage from before. (Also a bunch of missing charms still)
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Look forward to the guide coming at some point in the next week or so.


Hey mate, that's a crazy damage! Would you share your name/notarmory? My vessel is just shy 10-11k damage! :-]
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Ekital wrote:Smax VoJ
Smax Life and Death
Smax Demiurge
Smax Blessed Life or until you have 50% PR
7-12 Rapture
1-10 Equinox
1 Point into Ressurect,Absolution,Divine Apparitition
Rest into SA


I think you missed VoR.

This is how I'm running it

Smax VoJ
Smax Life and Death
Smax Demiurge
Smax SA
Blessed Life or until you have 50% PR (took 9 pts to get there with my setup)
1 Rapture (plenty fast enough for me and I just recast with Dem and SA every 20 seconds)
1 Equinox
1 Point into Ressurect,Absolution,Divine Apparitition
Rest into VoR
Edited by tbone503 3 weeks.
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tbone503 wrote:
Ekital wrote:Smax VoJ
Smax Life and Death
Smax Demiurge
Smax Blessed Life or until you have 50% PR
7-12 Rapture
1-10 Equinox
1 Point into Ressurect,Absolution,Divine Apparitition
Rest into SA


I think you missed VoR.

This is how I'm running it

Smax VoJ
Smax Life and Death
Smax Demiurge
Smax SA
Blessed Life or until you have 50% PR (took 9 pts to get there with my setup)
1 Rapture (plenty fast enough for me and I just recast with Dem and SA every 20 seconds)
1 Equinox
1 Point into Ressurect,Absolution,Divine Apparitition
Rest into VoR


1 Point into VoR due to how absolution and Adjudicator works. It's better to put some points into Equinox rather than Vessel of Retribution.
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What will be early/mid/late game for this build in this s25.. Since I've read that this guide is outdated, what will be the viable gears as of now
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Ekital wrote:
Daiug2 wrote:Gotta ask, what should we skip on now for points?

The "worst" skill seems Life and Death, but it feels so weird not placing any point into it. Any suggestions?


Smax VoJ
Smax Life and Death
Smax Demiurge
Smax Blessed Life or until you have 50% PR
7-12 Rapture
1-10 Equinox
1 Point into Ressurect,Absolution,Divine Apparitition
Rest into SA

Overall Neutraldin received approximately a 2x Dmg increase

This is the damage with very basic crafts, no crafted jewels and about 1/10th the investment. It's already approaching Collector/Adjudicator damage from before. (Also a bunch of missing charms still)
Image

Look forward to the guide coming at some point in the next week or so.


I wonder why u Smax Voj and not also VoR, absolution get more damage per hit from VoR right? thx in advance
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Tokkie wrote:
Ekital wrote:
Daiug2 wrote:Gotta ask, what should we skip on now for points?



I wonder why u Smax Voj and not also VoR, absolution get more damage per hit from VoR right? thx in advance


skill points shortage. can't get everything you want, need to prioritize
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acekard wrote:
Tokkie wrote:
Ekital wrote:
Daiug2 wrote:Gotta ask, what should we skip on now for points?



I wonder why u Smax Voj and not also VoR, absolution get more damage per hit from VoR right? thx in advance


skill points shortage. can't get everything you want, need to prioritize


Thats not exactly what I meant.
I’m aware of the skills and that you cannot smax everything, but what I was thinking is about that absolution skill. It gets 100% damage per hit from VoJ, while VoR gives 165% damage. So I don’t really get why some go with maxing VoJ.
ps : I’m not an experienced neutraldin, just want to get somthing clear for myself.
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Because VoJ will be your main killing skill. It kills monsters much farther away than VoR, so don't have to always be "up close and personal" to kill everything.