PALAZON [CHERUBIM/DIVINE JUDGMENT]

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Loko22 wrote:Does this build benefit from life leech?


If you play the physical starter version LL is BIG and same goes for the fire setup that has a bit of physical damage. But remember LL does not work on bosses :mrgreen:
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Hi. Trying starter cherubim and got mixed feelings. Why am i have more damage without weapon than with it?
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ZeratulSC007007 wrote:Hi. Trying starter cherubim and got mixed feelings. Why am i have more damage without weapon than with it?
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Classic mistake :oops:

First rule of Palazon is dont ever look at the in game numbers. What you want to look at is page 2 of D2stats. If you play physical build you want to look at the physical damage number and if your playing one of the elemental variations you want to take a look at the flat elemental damage numbers.

Also you did the classic mistake of swapping over to the build way way to early before you had the right gear and charms (yes base stats are important for this build no matter what variation you are playing)

About the so called "no weapon" = more damage.. this is a know thing for a long long time and sadly again the ingame damage information cant be used for anything at all :mrgreen:
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usling wrote:About the so called "no weapon" = more damage.. this is a know thing for a long long time and sadly again the ingame damage information cant be used for anything at all :mrgreen:


It's actually correct here.

Longsword has 11% EWD per 100 strength.

Fists are hardcoded to have 100% EWD per 100 strength. With enough added flat, punchbuild is legitimately more damage.
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Hi, really nice guide.

and curious about what is the difference between dex stacking and str stacking palazon.

I know its Physic and Elemental dmg but are there big gaps between physic and elemental?

actually i dont really prefer ele build (no leech) but if the ele one is much better than physic, i will consider to choose ele one lol
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bibel89 wrote:Hi, really nice guide.

and curious about what is the difference between dex stacking and str stacking palazon.

I know its Physic and Elemental dmg but are there big gaps between physic and elemental?

actually i dont really prefer ele build (no leech) but if the ele one is much better than physic, i will consider to choose ele one lol


You "kinda" answered your own question :) but to the part about the so called GAP between the different variation of the build the elemental builds are more of a later endgame focus and in general elemental build is more overall damage. Sins Consecration got changed the gap is not as B I G and if you really want to I think if you invest in some expensive gear and stack A LOT of DS the physical version can do some amazing stuff.

I think this season I hit around 24K max damage on page 2 of D2stats before I swapped over to adju fire/str variation.

Overall best version of the palazon build would be
Azurewrath
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Crystal Sword (Sacred)

Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity:
1020
Item Level: 130
Innate Cold Damage:
(45.0% of Dexterity)
100% of Vitality Added as Cold Damage to Weapon
Max Life gained per point of Vitality reduced by 0.9
You Cannot Deal Fire, Lightning or Poison Damage
40% Chance to cast level 30 Azure Orb on Melee Attack
Adds 160-250 Cold Damage
-100% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+2 to Remorseless Winter
Slow Target 25%
Maximum Cold Resist +10%
Physical Resist 10%
100% Bonus to Defense
Cannot Be Frozen
Requirements +100%
Socketed (6)
variation.
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Hey loving the build quick question I'm not too familiar with the game so for a phys variant what pieces of gear should I strive for after I have what you put in your guide? Or is that the best of the best for me?
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How would you spec skill points with Zakarum/ adju Setup?
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Hi usling. I am currently playing Physic version of Cherubim pally. But i remembered that you had played adjudicator version of this.
Is there any big difference between pure Physic and Adjudicator cherubim version? I played elemental version of this for a short time. But, it didnt go well in scos (i dont know how to survive in there without life spark on striking).
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bibel89 wrote:Hi usling. I am currently playing Physic version of Cherubim pally. But i remembered that you had played adjudicator version of this.
Is there any big difference between pure Physic and Adjudicator cherubim version? I played elemental version of this for a short time. But, it didnt go well in scos (i dont know how to survive in there without life spark on striking).


Hello Bibel :mrgreen:

Iv had no problems in Scosglen.. this build variation has some flat phy damage that leeches a tiny bit.. yes its not a lot like the phy version of palazon but it worked just fine for me, even without Hellfire Plate.

Adjudicator is indeed an elemental version of palazon. Its a strength based version that scales of
Adjudicator
Adjudicator
Goedendag (Sacred)

One-Hand Damage: 53 to 54
(Paladin Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 574
Item Level: 120
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.14 per Strength)%
Holy: Holy Fire Deals 4.5% of Strength as More Total Damage (max 250%)
Unholy: Blood Thorns: +40% Damage Multiplier
Nephalem: +25% Total Vessel Damage Bonus from Passives
+1 to Paladin Skill Levels
+50% Damage to Undead
Adds 175-325 Fire Damage
Adds 1-600 Lightning Damage
Adds 200-250 Cold Damage
+800 Poison Damage over 1 seconds
-(15 to 25)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
Socketed (3)
by stacking strength you gain flat fire damage true holy fire. You can use the full
Curse of the Zakarum
Curse of the Zakarum
(Zakarum Set)

Bremm's Retribution
Wyand's Perfidy
Geleb's Greed
Maffer's Frenzy

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
Maximum Life +3%
Maximum Fire Resist +4%

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
70% Attack Speed
40% Movement Speed
70% Hit Recovery
(40 to 70)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +20%

Set Bonus with complete set:
+2 to All Skills
+84 Fire Damage
+50% to Fire Spell Damage
-60% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+3 to Path of Flames
+75 to all Attributes

with this variation. As physical palazon is also a strength based stacking build they both have rather lowish AR and as such tend to be a few variation getting the attack rating you want. I am not a big fan of this variation tho it can be very nice and its possible to get 90 all resist with this variation of the build. Sins we get our flat fire damage true "Holy Fire" +all skills is king for this variation. As such +2 or even +3
Seal of the Nephalem Kings
Seal of the Nephalem Kings
Ring

Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
(10 to 15)% to Strength
(10 to 15)% to Vitality
(10 to 15)% Bonus to Defense
(10 to 20)% Gold Find
. Body armor you can use either
Arkaine's Valor
Arkaine's Valor
Splint Mail (Sacred)

Defense: (9532 - 10839) to (12577 - 14093)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 600
Item Level: 120
50% of Your Bonus to Defense Added as Vitality
+1 to All Skills
50% Hit Recovery
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+(3000 to 5000) Defense
Physical Resist 10%
Socketed (6)
or
Hellfire Plate

Hellfire Plate
Body Armors

'IgnJahGurRhal'
Runeword Level: 115
+1% Innate Elemental Damage per 250 Strength and Dexterity
15% Chance to cast level 9 Life Spark on Melee Attack
20% Attack Speed
+250 Fire Damage
-(11 to 15)% to Enemy Elemental Resistances
+(171 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
Maximum Life +(3 to 5)%
Maximum Elemental Resists +(1 to 2)%
Fire Resist +(10 to 20)%
Lightning Resist +(10 to 20)%
Cold Resist +(10 to 20)%
Poison Resist +(10 to 20)%
Physical Resist (7 to 10)%
runeword. Amulet would be the
The Tesseract
The Tesseract
Amulet

Required Level: 100
Item Level: 105
+2 to All Skills
25% Cast Speed
+(1 to 30)% to Fire Spell Damage
-(1 to 20)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(1 to 30)% to Lightning Spell Damage
-(1 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
+(1 to 30)% to Cold Spell Damage
-(1 to 20)% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+(1 to 30)% to Poison Spell Damage
-(1 to 20)% to Enemy Poison Resistance
.

Saw that someone asked about "Skill Point" distribution for this variation.

I tend not to put points into the INCARNATION tree for the "attack rating" as I don't like that play style having to cast Solar Flare all the time. Base duration is 30 seconds now, so that's is good and properly makes it not as annoying to use anymore.

This is how I play the build. Yes you can go pickup the free "attack rating" in the Incarnation tree if you like

ASPECTS
Elemental Wisdom (MAX)
Veneration of Justice (1)
Spark of Hope (put points here until you get 60% movement speed)

TEMPLAR
Retaliate (1)
Divine Judgment (dump spare skill points here)
Lionheart (max)
Holy Fire (max)

MASTERY
Melee Devotion (1)
Meditation (3)
Specialization (10)

REWARD

Dragon´s Blessing (max)
Blessed Life (max)
Divine Apparition (1)