Dr. Strangebuff - Summoner Nec

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My first >6 roll. If this was cold damage though lol
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Archbishop Lazarus
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Lazarus' Chasuble
Lazarus' Surplice Cap
Lazarus' Votive Lamp
Lazarus' Lamen

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
+25% to Summoned Minion Damage
+25% to Summoned Minion Resistances

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+50% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

Set Bonus with complete set:
+1 Extra Veil King
+2 to Necromancer Skill Levels
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+50% to Summoned Minion Damage
+50% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

the +20 to veil kings is not the one you can get normally. They are immune to all elements except physical and magical and they have 75% dr and you get 2 of them. Also they have 20% chance lethal poison attack and they're just 1 shotting everything for me.

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Good thing I had the whole set and tested it. Pretty interesting. + necro minions doesn't give you more as my fellblood isn't giving me 4 instead of 2. Ignore the low health i'm still in terror with 0 charms.
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How much health does your void archon have compare to the veil kings from the set?
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HechtHeftig wrote:How much health does your void archon have compare to the veil kings from the set?

Veil kings = 29445

Archon = 27975

What's up?

I'm not even 120 yet and I have 0 charms so the health is really low right now.
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The reason why I refrain from using the veil king from the summon skill tree is: although the Veil King has about the same life as Void Archon, it still dies much more often for the simple reason that the void archon can attack while being hidden behind other minions (like a lamia passing through everything). However, Veil King is on the frontline and thus gets hit much more Often.
Unfortunately, you can't see how much life either of the 2 Veil Kings from the set has left.
So I thought that Veil Kings from the set at least have to have a much higher amount of HP to not worry about them at all. It's hard to guess if they are viable. I probably wouldn't use them even in endgame.
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HechtHeftig wrote:The reason why I refrain from using the veil king from the summon skill tree is: although the Veil King has about the same life as Void Archon, it still dies much more often for the simple reason that the void archon can attack while being hidden behind other minions (like a lamia passing through everything). However, Veil King is on the frontline and thus gets hit much more Often.
Unfortunately, you can't see how much life either of the 2 Veil Kings from the set has left.
So I thought that Veil Kings from the set at least have to have a much higher amount of HP to not worry about them at all. It's hard to guess if they are viable. I probably wouldn't use them even in endgame.

Maybe they're worth using as your minion to teleport to so they are always healing? Mana cost is 746 though :(
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Mana cost is negligible as a necromancer with Embalming's Mana Regen. You can spam Disco Inferno almost endlessly, and that costs 1972 per cast, not even specced into energy.
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DeanLew wrote:About
Archbishop Lazarus
Archbishop Lazarus
(Tribute Set)

Lazarus' Chasuble
Lazarus' Surplice Cap
Lazarus' Votive Lamp
Lazarus' Lamen

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
+25% to Summoned Minion Damage
+25% to Summoned Minion Resistances

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+50% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

Set Bonus with complete set:
+1 Extra Veil King
+2 to Necromancer Skill Levels
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+50% to Summoned Minion Damage
+50% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

the +20 to veil kings is not the one you can get normally. They are immune to all elements except physical and magical and they have 75% dr and you get 2 of them. Also they have 20% chance lethal poison attack and they're just 1 shotting everything for me.

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Good thing I had the whole set and tested it. Pretty interesting. + necro minions doesn't give you more as my fellblood isn't giving me 4 instead of 2. Ignore the low health i'm still in terror with 0 charms.



Wait wait + necro minions doesnt give you more minions??!! umm did i read that correctly? well what does it add if not extra minions?
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bradr wrote:
DeanLew wrote:About
Archbishop Lazarus
Archbishop Lazarus
(Tribute Set)

Lazarus' Chasuble
Lazarus' Surplice Cap
Lazarus' Votive Lamp
Lazarus' Lamen

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
+25% to Summoned Minion Damage
+25% to Summoned Minion Resistances

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+50% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

Set Bonus with complete set:
+1 Extra Veil King
+2 to Necromancer Skill Levels
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+50% to Summoned Minion Damage
+50% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

the +20 to veil kings is not the one you can get normally. They are immune to all elements except physical and magical and they have 75% dr and you get 2 of them. Also they have 20% chance lethal poison attack and they're just 1 shotting everything for me.

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Good thing I had the whole set and tested it. Pretty interesting. + necro minions doesn't give you more as my fellblood isn't giving me 4 instead of 2. Ignore the low health i'm still in terror with 0 charms.



Wait wait + necro minions doesnt give you more minions??!! umm did i read that correctly? well what does it add if not extra minions?


Well, that's because +necromancer minions only add more minions to the summons of the necromancer summoning tree. However, since that Veil Kings oskill comes from the full set bonus, it won't be affected by it.


BTW: Belial video added.
bradr
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HechtHeftig wrote:
bradr wrote:
DeanLew wrote:About
Archbishop Lazarus
Archbishop Lazarus
(Tribute Set)

Lazarus' Chasuble
Lazarus' Surplice Cap
Lazarus' Votive Lamp
Lazarus' Lamen

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
+25% to Summoned Minion Damage
+25% to Summoned Minion Resistances

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+50% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

Set Bonus with complete set:
+1 Extra Veil King
+2 to Necromancer Skill Levels
+100% to Summoned Minion Life
+50% to Summoned Minion Damage
+50% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

the +20 to veil kings is not the one you can get normally. They are immune to all elements except physical and magical and they have 75% dr and you get 2 of them. Also they have 20% chance lethal poison attack and they're just 1 shotting everything for me.

Image

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Good thing I had the whole set and tested it. Pretty interesting. + necro minions doesn't give you more as my fellblood isn't giving me 4 instead of 2. Ignore the low health i'm still in terror with 0 charms.



Wait wait + necro minions doesnt give you more minions??!! umm did i read that correctly? well what does it add if not extra minions?


Well, that's because +necromancer minions only add more minions to the summons of the necromancer summoning tree. However, since that Veil Kings oskill comes from the full set bonus, it won't be affected by it.


BTW: Belial video added.

ohh i get you so it just doesnt add to the viel kings oskill lol tyhoght you were saying it was totally broken..nvm:)