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you can think of tantrum like it's you shootingan arrow at your feet which then splits into many splinters which deal damage at low range
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Can't use Tantrum without a bow. :lol:
Can't use a bow without quivers. :P
I don't mean to dwell...but I can't help myself.
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GregMXL wrote:Can't use Tantrum without a bow. :lol:
Can't use a bow without quivers. :P


Ok ok, it makes a little more sense when looked at this way.
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Hello again.

In the leveling section it says to go half vitality half energy once you craft your first Amok short war bow. In the early game and mid game sections it says to go half dexterity half vitality. I see that some of the skills benefit from energy. Is the switch to dexterity to allow equipping higher tier war bows?

I am now level 56 and completed the level 1 challenge and Kurast 3000 BA. I have the items listed in the guide except for Empyrean Bands. I'm only able to equip a tier 2 short war bow. Should I continue with points in energy until level 90 and then respec?

Thanks.
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Hello there,

We switch to dexterity after level 90, because that is the time when your weapon damage will begin to outscale the damage of your spells. Up until this point the paladin is quite slow when using bow attacks such as Tantrum. The reason we go for energy early on (and 10 points in life in death) is because Vessel of Judgement will be doing more aoe DPS (and Symphony of Destruction more single target DPS) than your tantrum early on, and so we want to boost the damage of these spells a bit.

Considering that you will have to respec at 90 anyway, to remove points from life and death etc, you should be going for energy & vit until then. And don't worry about stat requirements too much. Stormlord has increasing returns so in a couple more points they will stop bothering you all together.
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suchbalance wrote:Hello there,

We switch to dexterity after level 90, because that is the time when your weapon damage will begin to outscale the damage of your spells. Up until this point the paladin is quite slow when using bow attacks such as Tantrum. The reason we go for energy early on (and 10 points in life in death) is because Vessel of Judgement will be doing more aoe DPS (and Symphony of Destruction more single target DPS) than your tantrum early on, and so we want to boost the damage of these spells a bit.

Considering that you will have to respec at 90 anyway, to remove points from life and death etc, you should be going for energy & vit until then. And don't worry about stat requirements too much. Stormlord has increasing returns so in a couple more points they will stop bothering you all together.


Thanks for the help and for the guide. I'm enjoying it so far and off to start the next difficulty.

I see what you mean about energy over dexterity early on. I also underestimated how much of a stat boost Stormlord is.

I just got done rerolling some things a lot. I'm off to start Terror now :)

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One more question for now. When the guide says to add orbs for elemental pierce, is it necessary to use all elements or only poison for Symphony of Destruction?
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it depends on what gear you got on . if you got Nero RW belt , you can also mo for -enemy fire resist to boost Path of Flames oskill . also Hanabigami got 3 elemental procs , along with the Rotundjere RW helm with 3 elemental damage - enemy resists will boost those also . if you don't got Nero / Rotundjere and Hanabigami yet , just go for -100 enemy poison resist untill you get them
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Yeah don't worry about orbing elemental pierce too much until you are lvl 120, with a full early game gear set and the Island of the Sunless sea charm. You will be at around 35-40% f/l/c pierce and 25-30% psn pierce from gear alone. Then Euphoria adds another ~50% to that number. So once you are 120 you can raise those 85-90% f/l/c & 75-80% psn numbers to 100%.
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Hello again.

I'm now level 116 and have done the first 3 Black Road challenges. I'm still in the early game gear setup and find I don't have enough defence for the last two challenges. I'm feeling a bit lost as to what I should be doing at this point. The mid game gear has sacred uniques and runewords that come from Destruction and I don't think I could farm there.
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Early game gear is enough not just for BRC, but for the vast majority of the destruction ubers too. If you followed it correctly (with a char orb with 15xith runes) and prebuff your stuff with the +8 staff you should easily have over 200k defence.