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MUS01 wrote:May be a good idea use Pagan rites instead to max cicrcle of life? Even at lvl 1 is a good skill. That would sabe more skill points for other skills like Simbiosis

If it works then go for it. The nice thing about CoL is the laek is high in end game making harder areas more manageable provided that kill speed is sufficient. It somewhat makes up for the low defense the build has and doesn't require casting anything.

mistercd3 wrote:one question is does
Aegipan
work good with Idol of scoglens skill?

I haven't tried it with this build but I don't think theres an issue with cooldown. I doubt any of the skills can match the kill speed of Thorn Strike for general farming though.

Unsatisfied wrote:Any tips for kabraxis? I feel like im doing almost no damage at all to him, even though i melt other ubers.. not sure whats going on with him

I experienced the same issue and gave up after just a few deaths cause I'm slowly farming xp atm. I have everything for end game besides Khazra. The patch notes mention something about Kabraxis previously causing self-harm so maybe thats part of it, idk. I haven't had as much time to play this ladder but previously Kab was too easy. Don't forget that he does heal on kill (don't use summons) and banish can do weird things to his life bar.


I don't have any great suggestions atm but nimmen probably isn't the best weapon to use. It may be worth trying
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Gehenna
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'ChamOhmLo'
Runeword Level: 83
20% Chance to cast level 32 Frozen Crown on Melee Attack
15% Block Speed
15% Hit Recovery
Adds 94-125 Cold Damage
Adds 150-200 Poison Damage over 1 seconds
+(144 to 171)% Enhanced Damage
+25% to Cold Spell Damage
-25% to Enemy Cold Resistance
+25% to Poison Spell Damage
-25% to Enemy Poison Resistance
Maximum Life +5%
Maximum Mana +(23 to 28)%
Requirements -33%
for the extra cold dmg/pierce and the 25% max life should save a few deaths. If I get some time to kill him I'll post here and update the kab section.
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Fumbles wrote:
mistercd3 wrote:one question is does
Aegipan
work good with Idol of scoglens skill?

I haven't tried it with this build but I don't think theres an issue with cooldown. I doubt any of the skills can match the kill speed of Thorn Strike for general farming though.


Isn't Thorn Field a much larger range Thorn Strike or do they not have the same hit mechanics? (ND, number of hits, etc)

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Unsatisfied wrote:Any tips for kabraxis? I feel like im doing almost no damage at all to him, even though i melt other ubers.. not sure whats going on with him

The patch notes mention something about Kabraxis previously causing self-harm so maybe thats part of it, idk.


When he used Balefire, balefire has a natural life degeneration, but his specific skill was changed to avoid that abuse. Also, he is CB immune now.
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thorn field from aegipan is just a much worse version of thorn strike.
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Thorn Field only have 25% weapon damage so it's no use, it's like a shitty version of Thorn Strike.

Ravage skill boost FHR FBR and velocity so i want to ask does it stack with velocity from idol of scoglen ? Any suggestion on farming teganze with thornwarden ?
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Just Thornstrike everything in Teganze? Circle of Life will keep your hp up all the time, unless you get hit by 20 balls at once :bounce:
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For teganze, you might want to use the teganze pendant ammy (yes it's funny because of the name) to get that mana on kill. I found that without it I somehow have mana problems in teganze, still not sure why when in other places I never have any problems with mana..
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Aspirine101 wrote:For teganze, you might want to use the teganze pendant ammy (yes it's funny because of the name) to get that mana on kill. I found that without it I somehow have mana problems in teganze, still not sure why when in other places I never have any problems with mana..


I think it's because LL and ML doesn't work in Teganze?
Correct me if i'm wrong
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JustinPeters wrote:
Aspirine101 wrote:For teganze, you might want to use the teganze pendant ammy (yes it's funny because of the name) to get that mana on kill. I found that without it I somehow have mana problems in teganze, still not sure why when in other places I never have any problems with mana..


I think it's because LL and ML doesn't work in Teganze?
Correct me if i'm wrong

Hm, might be yes. EIther way the mana on kill from teganze pendant works and solves the problem
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Has anyone experimented with gear that has -defense per hit? I was using Lavasurge before I got Nimmen and killing before was significantly easier. I don't necessarily want to go back to that axe because debuff kinda sucks but was iso another piece with that mod that might fit in well.
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80%+ of mobs in the game should be dying with one thorn strike. Do you have low attack rating or low damage in general? The 100% bloodstar on Lavasurge would proc constantly with Thorn Strike so maybe thats making a difference? What other gear are you using, how much attack rating do you have, skill plan, stat allocation, current charms etc? Where do you typically farm? I highly doubt that -def/hit is making a difference vs enemies.