Which items should be renewed/reworked/deleted?

I think Median has too many uniques in general. They're divided into tiered and sacred and I think this concept is dated & should be removed.

Go back to Classic LoD base item system where 2nd and 3rd tiers have different names, not just Short Sword (2) or Short Sword (Sacred). Regular uniques would be equivalent to tiered uniques and generally used early game, some mid-game viable. Exceptional (2nd tier) would be mid-game to end-game. Elite (3rd tier) is endgame, high level required and high rarity.

Conquest wrote:I think Median has too many uniques in general. They're divided into tiered and sacred and I think this concept is dated & should be removed.

Go back to Classic LoD base item system where 2nd and 3rd tiers have different names, not just Short Sword (2) or Short Sword (Sacred). Regular uniques would be equivalent to tiered uniques and generally used early game, some mid-game viable. Exceptional (2nd tier) would be mid-game to end-game. Elite (3rd tier) is endgame, high level required and high rarity.

Can u expand ur opinion?
Like what char levels can be counted as mid or early game? Or what stats and lvl req should have normal unique item to be viable through leveling phase?

Conquest wrote:I think Median has too many uniques in general. They're divided into tiered and sacred and I think this concept is dated & should be removed.

Go back to Classic LoD base item system where 2nd and 3rd tiers have different names, not just Short Sword (2) or Short Sword (Sacred). Regular uniques would be equivalent to tiered uniques and generally used early game, some mid-game viable. Exceptional (2nd tier) would be mid-game to end-game. Elite (3rd tier) is endgame, high level required and high rarity.

What do you mean "dated"? TUs are deterministically farmable and provide a baseline power level. It's the same as crafting gear in Grim Dawn or an MMO, or D3 dropping a set in your lap. SUs are drop-only just like CLoD and mostly already follow this pattern of rarity tiers; if you look back at the Sigma 1.0 patch notes, this was the goal. SUs are strong items and/or build enablers that drop in what Median considers "early game", SSUs are even stronger but niche that drop in mid game, and SSSUs are chase items for endgame. That's still largely the case today, the game has just changed a lot so many items they don't really work the same way they used to.

I think it's fair to have an aesthetic preference for clod's base names changing with the rarity, but I really don't understand the rest of what you're saying.

What's the problem with Big Game Hunter set?

It's fine after the throw barb rework. It can carry you through mid game to early end game.

Conquest wrote:I think Median has too many uniques in general. They're divided into tiered and sacred and I think this concept is dated & should be removed.

Go back to Classic LoD base item system where 2nd and 3rd tiers have different names, not just Short Sword (2) or Short Sword (Sacred). Regular uniques would be equivalent to tiered uniques and generally used early game, some mid-game viable. Exceptional (2nd tier) would be mid-game to end-game. Elite (3rd tier) is endgame, high level required and high rarity.

I don’t think too many items is the problem. Variety is great. Skills that make the current items viable would be so much fun! Imagine finding a Buriza, King of the Ents, Astral Blade, etc. and having build options that would make those drops as exciting as they should be. That’s what would get me pumped anyway.

Jpo76 wrote:I don’t think too many items is the problem. Variety is great. Skills that make the current items viable would be so much fun! Imagine finding a Buriza, King of the Ents, Astral Blade, etc. and having build options that would make those drops as exciting as they should be. That’s what would get me pumped anyway.

Interesting choices... there are a lot of items that I would call out before those. Treewarden frames are bad, but Astral Blade makes a nice WW barb (just add Fawkes) and the Blizzard Cannon is fine but lesss straightforward than Crucible.

I’m sure there are a bunch I didn’t think of. That really points to the problem though. There are so many items that could be great, but no one uses them, because they don’t fit into any truly powerful builds.

Talking about reworks.
Druid seer set has 50% poison spell damage and nova charge.
Implement has life steal and life on melee attack.
Barbarian elemental set has zero -light res.

The Necro melee items

Dreamflayer

Dreamflayer
Hexblade (Sacred)
(Necromancer Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 463
Item Level: 105
Innate Fire Damage: (40.0% of Dexterity)
-3% to Enemy Elemental Resistances per Carnage Base Level
Adds 160-250 Fire Damage
Adds 300-600 Lightning Damage
Adds 300-600 Cold Damage
+1500 Poison Damage over 1 seconds
+(500 to 1500) Defense
+(500 to 1000) to Life
Maximum Mana -33%
+(100 to 150) Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (3)

and

Heart of Fire

Heart of Fire
Hexblade (Sacred)
(Necromancer Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 926
Item Level: 120
Innate Fire Damage: (40.0% of Dexterity)
20% Chance to cast level 60 Pyroblast on Melee Attack
1% Chance to cast level 40 Pentagram on Striking
+(4 to 5) to Necromancer Skill Levels
Adds 160-250 Fire Damage
-(40 to 60)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+1000 Defense
Physical Resist 10%
+(100 to 200) Life on Melee Attack
100% Bonus to Defense
Requirements +100%
Socketed (3)

should be innate fire dmg instead of normal dex dmg bonus.

Spirits of the Nephalem

Spirits of the Nephalem
(Barbarian Shaman Set)

Destiny
Sacred Charge
The Guardian
The Protector

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
+38% Damage to Protector Spirit Bloodlust
+50% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
+1 to Maximum Barbarian Minions
+15% to Summoned Minion Resistances

Set Bonus with complete set:
+1 to Maximum Barbarian Minions
+150% to Summoned Minion Life
+300 to Vitality
+300 to Energy
+200 Life Regenerated per Second
Regenerate Mana +100%

Is very outdated. Is in huge need of a rework and its not only the set bonus, but all its items.
Too few minion stats, too many useless stats.

Destiny

Destiny
Gilded Shield (Sacred)
Defense: (8868 - 9976) to (10992 - 12366)
Chance to Block: 1%
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 700
Item Level: 1
+3 to Barbarian Skill Levels
60% Hit Recovery
+(41 to 50)% to Summoned Minion Life
+(11 to 15)% to Summoned Minion Resistances
+(140 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
+100 Life Regenerated per Second
Maximum Mana +15%
Regenerate Mana +(31 to 50)%
Socketed (4)

Spirits of the Nephalem
(Barbarian Shaman Set)

best part 3 barb skills and 2% runemaster... kinda sad for a minion set.

Sacred Charge

Sacred Charge
Hammerhead Axe (Sacred)
One-Hand Damage: 51 to 55
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 630
Item Level: 1
Strength Damage Bonus: (0.14 per Strength)%
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
60% Cast Speed
+(50 to 100)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(100 to 150)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
(11 to 15)% to Strength
(11 to 15)% to Vitality
Lightning Resist +(41 to 50)%
Socketed (6)

Spirits of the Nephalem
(Barbarian Shaman Set)

very few skills and noooo minion stats...

The Guardian

The Guardian
Ring Mail (Sacred)
Defense: (5848 - 6579) to (6434 - 7238)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 550
Item Level: 1
+2 to Barbarian Skill Levels
+(16 to 20)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(140 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
(21 to 25)% to Strength
Fire Resist +(41 to 50)%
Poison Resist +(41 to 50)%
Socketed (6)

Spirits of the Nephalem
(Barbarian Shaman Set)

max minions is good, but the rest is still outdated.

The Protector

The Protector
Fanged Helm (Sacred)
Defense: (2628 - 2956) to (2779 - 3126)
(Barbarian Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 500
Item Level: 1
+(3 to 4) to Barbarian Skill Levels
+(21 to 25)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(31 to 50)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(140 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
(21 to 25)% to Vitality
Cold Resist +(41 to 50)%
(21 to 25)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (4)

Spirits of the Nephalem
(Barbarian Shaman Set)

a fine item but semi low minion stats.

Just a very sad set. Never ever seen anyone using the full set, that wasnt to show off how bad/sad it is.