Fire melee nec

Hi im playing fire melee nec using daggers....
Any ideas about end game gear?
Taming sari, hellfire plate is not really good...
I have Tyraels might so i want to build my nec with it....
Defensive stats are awesome.....
Any idea is helpful....

Heart of Fire

Heart of Fire
Hexblade (Sacred)
(Necromancer Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 926
Item Level: 120
Innate Fire Damage: (40.0% of Dexterity)
14% Chance to cast level 50 Pyroblast on Melee Attack
1% Chance to cast level 40 Pentagram on Striking
+(4 to 5) to Necromancer Skill Levels
Adds 160-250 Fire Damage
-(20 to 30)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+1000 Defense
Physical Resist 10%
+(100 to 200) Life on Melee Attack
100% Bonus to Defense
Requirements +100%
Socketed (3)

Svalinn

Svalinn
Shields
'RhalLoOhn'
Runeword Level: 115
-1% to Enemy Elemental Resistances per 150 Dexterity
8% Chance to cast level 7 Life Spark when Blocking
1% Base Block Chance
15% Block Speed
20% Hit Recovery
+(151 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
+(30 to 40) to all Attributes
(15 to 20)% to Dexterity
+200 to Life
Fire Resist +(20 to 25)%
Lightning Resist +(20 to 25)%
Cold Resist +(20 to 25)%
Poison Resist +(20 to 25)%
Fire Absorb (3 to 5)%
Physical Resist 5%

maybe

Curse of the Zakarum

Curse of the Zakarum
(Zakarum Set)

Bremm's Retribution
Wyand's Perfidy
Geleb's Greed
Maffer's Frenzy

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
Maximum Life +3%
Maximum Fire Resist +4%

Set Bonus with 3 or more set items:
70% Attack Speed
40% Movement Speed
70% Hit Recovery
(40 to 70)% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +20%

Set Bonus with complete set:
+2 to All Skills
+84 Fire Damage
+50% to Fire Spell Damage
-60% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+3 to Path of Flames
+75 to all Attributes

if you don't want to use hellfire
rare jewelery with pierce/dex or

Bad Mood

Bad Mood
Ring
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
-20% Cast Speed
Adds 50-100 Fire Damage
Adds 50-100 Lightning Damage
Adds 50-100 Cold Damage
-(5 to 20)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
-(5 to 20)% to Enemy Lightning Resistance
-(5 to 20)% to Enemy Cold Resistance

I heard innate fire necro is weak, but didn't try myself.

Yea 40% IED is low, especially with no IED boosts in the tree. Plus necro has very little access to life Regen or LoMA.

Heres is how I would look at the two dagger scenarios (ignoring scythes). Let's say you had 5k dex endgame:

For IED: 40% IED on weapon probably ends up more like 60% IED (+50% innate endgame), so you're looking at 3k weapon damage, x3 with 200pierce (if even possible). So your dagger IED alone is dealing 9k fire damage.

For PHYS: figure an average wpn damage of 300 (

The Defiler

The Defiler
Spirit Edge (Sacred)
One-Hand Damage: (170 - 211) to (362 - 441)
(Necromancer Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 537
Item Level: 120
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.13 per Dexterity)%
Area Effect Attack
Parasite: +6 Targets
Deathlord Morph
+(1 to 3) to Necromancer Skill Levels
Adds (90 to 115)-(220 to 270) Damage
(10 to 15)% Life stolen per Hit
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
(10 to 15)% Deadly Strike
Socketed (3)

), dex bonus gives 650% EWD and Famine gives 750% EWD. Which turns 300 into 4200, then assume 2x for deadly strike so 8400 total weapon phys damage from dagger.

So just the dagger alone, damage-wise things are about the same. But flat +phys damage from gear gets multiplied by that 650% AND the 750%, so that's 15x. Whereas flat +ele damage only gets 3x multiplier from fire pierce. That is a massive difference, and I don't think the higher +ele modifiers make up for it when you have things like

Ripstar

Ripstar
Ring
Required Level: 60
Item Level: 60
+0.5625 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+20 Life on Melee Attack

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Wind Runner

Wind Runner
Boots
'SilElqSilGul'
Runeword Level: 100
+(0 to 1) to All Skills
50% Attack Speed
10% Movement Speed
Adds 25-68 Damage
250% Bonus to Attack Rating
(12 to 15)% Life stolen per Hit
+(171 to 200)% Enhanced Defense

, etc. Then consider the fact that life leech works with phys and not ele, I think phys becomes the clear winner.

Happy to be proven wrong though, and might even consider trying it myself still. I always enjoy playing builds in new ways.

Semigloss wrote:Yea 40% IED is low, especially with no IED boosts in the tree. Plus necro has very little access to life Regen or LoMA.

Heres is how I would look at the two dagger scenarios (ignoring scythes). Let's say you had 5k dex endgame:

For IED: 40% IED on weapon probably ends up more like 60% IED (+50% innate endgame), so you're looking at 3k weapon damage, x3 with 200pierce (if even possible). So your dagger IED alone is dealing 9k fire damage.

For PHYS: figure an average wpn damage of 300 (
The Defiler
The Defiler
Spirit Edge (Sacred)
One-Hand Damage: (170 - 211) to (362 - 441)
(Necromancer Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Dexterity: 537
Item Level: 120
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.13 per Dexterity)%
Area Effect Attack
Parasite: +6 Targets
Deathlord Morph
+(1 to 3) to Necromancer Skill Levels
Adds (90 to 115)-(220 to 270) Damage
(10 to 15)% Life stolen per Hit
+(150 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
(10 to 15)% Deadly Strike
Socketed (3)
), dex bonus gives 650% EWD and Famine gives 750% EWD. Which turns 300 into 4200, then assume 2x for deadly strike so 8400 total weapon phys damage from dagger.

So just the dagger alone, damage-wise things are about the same. But flat +phys damage from gear gets multiplied by that 650% AND the 750%, so that's 15x. Whereas flat +ele damage only gets 3x multiplier from fire pierce. That is a massive difference, and I don't think the higher +ele modifiers make up for it when you have things like
Ripstar
Ripstar
Ring
Required Level: 60
Item Level: 60
+0.5625 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+20 Life on Melee Attack
,
Wind Runner

Wind Runner
Boots
'SilElqSilGul'
Runeword Level: 100
+(0 to 1) to All Skills
50% Attack Speed
10% Movement Speed
Adds 25-68 Damage
250% Bonus to Attack Rating
(12 to 15)% Life stolen per Hit
+(171 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
, etc. Then consider the fact that life leech works with phys and not ele, I think phys becomes the clear winner.

Happy to be proven wrong though, and might even consider trying it myself still. I always enjoy playing builds in new ways.

forgot the -% from phys res everything has on that 8400, sustain you can "fix" with farnhams for the most part, i wouldnt bother with it atm, best to wait for more support, at least you can use carnage relic with the build tho...

True.

Taming Sari

Taming Sari
Necromancer Daggers
'QorMhal'
Runeword Level: 110
Carnage Now Converts 100% Physical Damage to Fire
+(2 to 4) to Necromancer Skill Levels
50% Hit Recovery
Adds (90 to 110)-(160 to 180) Damage
-(30 to 35)% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(170 to 200)% Enhanced Damage
3% Deadly Strike
4% to All Attributes
Physical Resist 5%
+(200 to 250) Life on Melee Attack

would probably be BIS for damage potential then. Huge phys damage that gets all the EWD, then converted all the fire with 3x from pierce. No phys res to deal with.

I also forgot death pact gives EWD too for melee tree investment.