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Pisunchic wrote:I have a QUESTION, for some reason earthquake barb has more damage without weapon, about 36k earthquake skill, and 44k shower of rocks, its about 1/2 higher then with weapon. I tested it on dummy and it was true, damage was higher just with bare hand and invictus offhand. Maybe its known bug or game mechanic that i dont understand. Second thing, i levelup my barb to 130, and today i have noticed that upheval has passive bonus to damage!? holy mama. In median there are many stuff that need to learn, discover new builds, why no one plays hybrid builds, i play xbow with summons, its so much fun, it hard to balance but still its possible. Some build variantions such as earthquake barb + summons, holy melee pal with summons, unholy melee pal + summons should be bonkers.


no one plays them because they are not viable. median is extremely biased towards specialization. if you focus on both things you'll most likely suck at both
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Diaco wrote:
Pisunchic wrote:I have a QUESTION, for some reason earthquake barb has more damage without weapon, about 36k earthquake skill, and 44k shower of rocks, its about 1/2 higher then with weapon. I tested it on dummy and it was true, damage was higher just with bare hand and invictus offhand. Maybe its known bug or game mechanic that i dont understand. Second thing, i levelup my barb to 130, and today i have noticed that upheval has passive bonus to damage!? holy mama. In median there are many stuff that need to learn, discover new builds, why no one plays hybrid builds, i play xbow with summons, its so much fun, it hard to balance but still its possible. Some build variantions such as earthquake barb + summons, holy melee pal with summons, unholy melee pal + summons should be bonkers.


no one plays them because they are not viable. median is extremely biased towards specialization. if you focus on both things you'll most likely suck at both

Xbow necro looks great with minions as a meatshields. My next question is about barb skills such as upheaval and aftermath, it said that it gives 10% of total strength as a physical weapon damage, is it aply to a skill (sor) or to all attacks, i cant see any changes at the char stats after i unlock that bonus, maybe it doesnt working
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Pisunchic wrote:I have a QUESTION, for some reason earthquake barb has more damage without weapon, about 36k earthquake skill, and 44k shower of rocks, its about 1/2 higher then with weapon. I tested it on dummy and it was true, damage was higher just with bare hand and invictus offhand. Maybe its known bug or game mechanic that i dont understand. Second thing, i levelup my barb to 130, and today i have noticed that upheval has passive bonus to damage!? holy mama. In median there are many stuff that need to learn, discover new builds, why no one plays hybrid builds, i play xbow with summons, its so much fun, it hard to balance but still its possible. Some build variantions such as earthquake barb + summons, holy melee pal with summons, unholy melee pal + summons should be bonkers.


Without a weapon reverts to LoD base scaling. I can't remember the exact numbers but it definitely can be more damage than using a weapon. I think it would be considered a bug?
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Short question, is there a meaning to the mercenaries health bar color, or is it just random? Not asking about how it changes when he gets damaged, but sometimes at full health it's yellow, sometimes blue, sometimes green, sometimes black........any meaning?
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PeterHatEater wrote:
Pisunchic wrote:I have a QUESTION, for some reason earthquake barb has more damage without weapon, about 36k earthquake skill, and 44k shower of rocks, its about 1/2 higher then with weapon. I tested it on dummy and it was true, damage was higher just with bare hand and invictus offhand. Maybe its known bug or game mechanic that i dont understand. Second thing, i levelup my barb to 130, and today i have noticed that upheval has passive bonus to damage!? holy mama. In median there are many stuff that need to learn, discover new builds, why no one plays hybrid builds, i play xbow with summons, its so much fun, it hard to balance but still its possible. Some build variantions such as earthquake barb + summons, holy melee pal with summons, unholy melee pal + summons should be bonkers.


Without a weapon reverts to LoD base scaling. I can't remember the exact numbers but it definitely can be more damage than using a weapon. I think it would be considered a bug?

Siosilvar once answered this. Dmg bonus for bare hands is like 0.15 per str, while for most 1-hand sword / axe it's 0.11 per str. So theoretically bare hands with enough strength and flat phys dam from other equipment can have more total dmg than using a low dmg weapon.
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Maertsy wrote:
PeterHatEater wrote:
Pisunchic wrote:I have a QUESTION, for some reason earthquake barb has more damage without weapon, about 36k earthquake skill, and 44k shower of rocks, its about 1/2 higher then with weapon. I tested it on dummy and it was true, damage was higher just with bare hand and invictus offhand. Maybe its known bug or game mechanic that i dont understand. Second thing, i levelup my barb to 130, and today i have noticed that upheval has passive bonus to damage!? holy mama. In median there are many stuff that need to learn, discover new builds, why no one plays hybrid builds, i play xbow with summons, its so much fun, it hard to balance but still its possible. Some build variantions such as earthquake barb + summons, holy melee pal with summons, unholy melee pal + summons should be bonkers.


Without a weapon reverts to LoD base scaling. I can't remember the exact numbers but it definitely can be more damage than using a weapon. I think it would be considered a bug?

Siosilvar once answered this. Dmg bonus for bare hands is like 0.15 per str, while for most 1-hand sword / axe it's 0.11 per str. So theoretically bare hands with enough strength and flat phys dam from other equipment can have more total dmg than using a low dmg weapon.


it's 1 full EWD per strength for fists.
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^ does this work with an offhand weapon only? Or Shield?

Also my actual question, does flat +stats get added before or after %stats?
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You don't have an offhand weapon if you're using fists to attack.
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Siosilvar wrote:You don't have an offhand weapon if you're using fists to attack.

So that would mean no weapon but yes shield would not work either?

To put it clearly, hitting with fists means you have nothing equipped in either weapon slot.
Pisunchic
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Semigloss wrote:
Siosilvar wrote:You don't have an offhand weapon if you're using fists to attack.

So that would mean no weapon but yes shield would not work either?

To put it clearly, hitting with fists means you have nothing equipped in either weapon slot.

from what i know shield doesnt cout as a weapon so you can get use of good damage wise shield which can add more damage to bare hand or scale it (snowstorm, invictus...) For example invictus has interesting mechanic strenght bonus damage, its multiply a weapon damage and bare hand!