Melee Sorceress [1.3]

Solfege wrote:
Waffle1209 wrote:When I hit 105 and 110 I was able to easily do each rift or dungeon (aside from cows).

After hitting 115 I seem to have hit a wall and ubers are a little more difficult. I must be lacking defence or something. What is everyone's defence at?

Good news is I am able to farm K3K so I will just do that for some upgrades.

I'm currently working on the 115 Ubers and I'll be recommending some upgrades. Right now, my testing setup is
Khany
,
Erawan

Erawan
Body Armors
'LemKoCham'
Runeword Level: 83
15% Combat Speeds
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(144 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
(27 to 30)% to Strength
(27 to 30)% to Vitality
Physical Resist (13 to 15)%
(15 to 20)% Bonus to Defense
,
Truce
Truce
Belts
'Jah'
Runeword Level: 80
5% Combat Speeds
Stun Attack
Slows Attacker by 5%
+(172 to 200)% Enhanced Defense
Physical Resist 10%
,
Toorc's Gift
Toorc's Gift
Chain Gloves (4)
Defense: (26 - 30) to (47 - 54)
Required Level: 5
Required Strength: 28
Item Level: 10
2% Chance to cast level 1 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
5% Attack Speed
Stun Attack
+(12 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(11 to 15)%
Socketed (1)
Defense: (155 - 172) to (211 - 234)
Required Level: 22
Required Strength: 57
Item Level: 31
3% Chance to cast level 2 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
15% Attack Speed
Adds (11 to 15)-(16 to 25) Cold Damage
Stun Attack
+(47 to 63)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(21 to 25)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (434 - 472) to (573 - 624)
Required Level: 40
Required Strength: 201
Item Level: 51
4% Chance to cast level 3 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
25% Attack Speed
Adds (36 to 45)-(46 to 63) Cold Damage
Stun Attack
+(81 to 97)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(31 to 35)%
Socketed (3)
Defense: (657 - 710) to (859 - 928)
Required Level: 48
Required Strength: 402
Item Level: 77
5% Chance to cast level 3 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
30% Attack Speed
Adds (81 to 100)-(101 to 125) Cold Damage
Stun Attack
+(98 to 114)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(36 to 40)%
Socketed (4)
, and
Bogspitter
Bogspitter
Helms
'BerUm'
Runeword Level: 78
20% Chance to cast level 11 Miasma on Melee Attack
+1 to All Skills
Adds 60-179 Poison Damage over 1 seconds
Slows Attacker by (10 to 15)%
+(115 to 143)% Enhanced Defense
Elemental Resists +10%
(not sure about this helm yet). Keep TU Spiked Shield and TU Chain Boots.

I haven't found a sacred crystal sword yet so I will probably try Khany in just a normal one for now, I have been wanting to give it a try for a bit.

How is that helm working out for you? I am going to try

Lanterne Rouge

Lanterne Rouge
Great Helm (4)
Defense: (109 - 126) to (161 - 185)
Required Level: 8
Required Strength: 36
Item Level: 19
4% Chance to cast level 10 Flamefront on Melee Attack
10% Attack Speed
-3% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(12 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+15 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (1)
Defense: (388 - 430) to (536 - 594)
Required Level: 25
Required Strength: 62
Item Level: 36
6% Chance to cast level 16 Flamefront on Melee Attack
20% Attack Speed
-6% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(47 to 63)% Enhanced Defense
+20 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (3)
Defense: (990 - 1077) to (1343 - 1461)
Required Level: 43
Required Strength: 218
Item Level: 59
8% Chance to cast level 22 Flamefront on Melee Attack
30% Attack Speed
-9% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(81 to 97)% Enhanced Defense
+25 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1481 - 1600) to (1999 - 2161)
Required Level: 51
Required Strength: 436
Item Level: 85
10% Chance to cast level 28 Flamefront on Melee Attack
40% Attack Speed
-12% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(98 to 114)% Enhanced Defense
+30 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (4)

and

Umbaru's Jinx

Umbaru's Jinx
Mask (4)
Defense: (116 - 126) to (195 - 209)
Required Level: 7
Required Strength: 30
Item Level: 10
+(0 to 1) to Necromancer Skill Levels
15% Hit Recovery
+(6 to 10)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(21 to 40)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(31 to 50)% Enhanced Defense
+(51 to 100) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (11 to 20)%
Physical Resist 1%
(6 to 10)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (1)
Defense: (416 - 448) to (546 - 587)
Required Level: 24
Required Strength: 60
Item Level: 31
+(0 to 1) to Necromancer Skill Levels
30% Hit Recovery
+(11 to 15)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(41 to 60)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(61 to 80)% Enhanced Defense
+(151 to 200) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (21 to 30)%
Physical Resist 2%
(11 to 20)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (3)
Defense: (927 - 994) to (1163 - 1249)
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 210
Item Level: 51
+(0 to 2) to Necromancer Skill Levels
45% Hit Recovery
+(16 to 20)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(61 to 80)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(91 to 110)% Enhanced Defense
+(251 to 300) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (31 to 40)%
Physical Resist 3%
(21 to 30)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1422 - 1515) to (1759 - 1876)
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 420
Item Level: 77
+(1 to 2) to Necromancer Skill Levels
60% Hit Recovery
+(21 to 25)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(81 to 100)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(121 to 140)% Enhanced Defense
+(351 to 400) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (41 to 50)%
Physical Resist 4%
(31 to 40)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (4)

. Laterne for the proc maybe? Umbaru's looks decent with some phys res, FCR, TCD, and poison length reduction. Also it would give a reanimate if I drop Warped Blade for Khany.

I will also probably switch my elemental trees to Poison/Light or Cold/Light as well to give the more defensive build a try for a bit. Damage doesn't seem to be my problem for now.

so maybe noob question but im new to mod i made this build and its awesome and am using the full set but when i follow the guides skill points im left with like 20 extra where do i put these? Also im poison/fire.

Waffle1209 wrote:I haven't found a sacred crystal sword yet so I will probably try Khany in just a normal one for now, I have been wanting to give it a try for a bit.

How is that helm working out for you? I am going to try
Lanterne Rouge
Lanterne Rouge
Great Helm (4)
Defense: (109 - 126) to (161 - 185)
Required Level: 8
Required Strength: 36
Item Level: 19
4% Chance to cast level 10 Flamefront on Melee Attack
10% Attack Speed
-3% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(12 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+15 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (1)
Defense: (388 - 430) to (536 - 594)
Required Level: 25
Required Strength: 62
Item Level: 36
6% Chance to cast level 16 Flamefront on Melee Attack
20% Attack Speed
-6% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(47 to 63)% Enhanced Defense
+20 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (3)
Defense: (990 - 1077) to (1343 - 1461)
Required Level: 43
Required Strength: 218
Item Level: 59
8% Chance to cast level 22 Flamefront on Melee Attack
30% Attack Speed
-9% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(81 to 97)% Enhanced Defense
+25 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1481 - 1600) to (1999 - 2161)
Required Level: 51
Required Strength: 436
Item Level: 85
10% Chance to cast level 28 Flamefront on Melee Attack
40% Attack Speed
-12% to Enemy Fire Resistance
+(98 to 114)% Enhanced Defense
+30 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (4)
and
Umbaru's Jinx
Umbaru's Jinx
Mask (4)
Defense: (116 - 126) to (195 - 209)
Required Level: 7
Required Strength: 30
Item Level: 10
+(0 to 1) to Necromancer Skill Levels
15% Hit Recovery
+(6 to 10)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(21 to 40)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(31 to 50)% Enhanced Defense
+(51 to 100) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (11 to 20)%
Physical Resist 1%
(6 to 10)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (1)
Defense: (416 - 448) to (546 - 587)
Required Level: 24
Required Strength: 60
Item Level: 31
+(0 to 1) to Necromancer Skill Levels
30% Hit Recovery
+(11 to 15)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(41 to 60)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(61 to 80)% Enhanced Defense
+(151 to 200) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (21 to 30)%
Physical Resist 2%
(11 to 20)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (3)
Defense: (927 - 994) to (1163 - 1249)
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 210
Item Level: 51
+(0 to 2) to Necromancer Skill Levels
45% Hit Recovery
+(16 to 20)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(61 to 80)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(91 to 110)% Enhanced Defense
+(251 to 300) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (31 to 40)%
Physical Resist 3%
(21 to 30)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1422 - 1515) to (1759 - 1876)
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 420
Item Level: 77
+(1 to 2) to Necromancer Skill Levels
60% Hit Recovery
+(21 to 25)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(81 to 100)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(121 to 140)% Enhanced Defense
+(351 to 400) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (41 to 50)%
Physical Resist 4%
(31 to 40)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (4)
. Laterne for the proc maybe? Umbaru's looks decent with some phys res, FCR, TCD, and poison length reduction. Also it would give a reanimate if I drop Warped Blade for Khany.

I will also probably switch my elemental trees to Poison/Light or Cold/Light as well to give the more defensive build a try for a bit. Damage doesn't seem to be my problem for now.

Only place I've had Sacred Warp Blades drop was the Torajan Jungles. Had 2 drop in one run. That was the only time.

Bogspitter seems ok. Miasma proc is nice since I don't have Force Blast yet, but I hate losing sockets to RWs. RW armor+belt+Vengeful Power seem to give enough Phys Res (just got done curb-stomping Bartuc and Primus), but both TU helms you listed look good (Lanterne for the IAS, proc, and regen; Umbaru for the FHR and reanimate). Gonna take this current setup into TA and Khalimgrad (or whatever it's called now) and see how it performs.

And yeah, feel free to try other specs if Poison/Fire isn't working out for you. That's one of the things I like about Melee Sorcs: you can choose different passive combos depending on how you want to play without having to farm for an entirely new gearset.

WingedMinion wrote:so maybe noob question but im new to mod i made this build and its awesome and am using the full set but when i follow the guides skill points im left with like 20 extra where do i put these? Also im poison/fire.

Save them for now. Some Charms have the "Increase Maximum Skill Levels by x" mod, which will let you put more Base Points into your skills beyond their normal limit. The extra points are for when you start getting these Charms.

And is hive worth using btw?

It's helpful, but not necessary. Hive is just there to give you another source of damage when in melee range, and when you're letting some Uber bosses chase you around while waiting for Fusillade's CD timer to expire.

@Waffle
TA fairly easy with RW gear. Can't quite faceroll it yet b/c Arrowside. Gonna try some other helm options.

Edit:
Umbaru's Jinx+Wormtongue > Bogspitter+Truce.

Is there a life leech/drain per hit skill or item to use when attacking with Bladestorm?

It depends on where you are in your playthrough.

The only skill-based source of sustain comes from Baneblade (Life on Attack) and Living Flame gives you Life regen. Life Leech and Life After Each Kill will have to come from gear/socket fillers.

Edit:
All clvl 115 Ubers done. Gear setup was as follows:

Khany

(in a Sacred Warp Blade)

Erawan

Erawan
Body Armors
'LemKoCham'
Runeword Level: 83
15% Combat Speeds
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
+(144 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
(27 to 30)% to Strength
(27 to 30)% to Vitality
Physical Resist (13 to 15)%
(15 to 20)% Bonus to Defense

(in Sacred Ceremonial Armor)

Cloudladder

Cloudladder
Spiked Shield (4)
Defense: (102 - 116) to (203 - 230)
Chance to Block: Class%
Required Level: 7
Required Dexterity: 55
Item Level: 10
+1 to All Skills
+1 to Druid Skill Levels
+1 to Sorceress Skill Levels
+(41 to 60)% Enhanced Defense
+20 to all Attributes
+10 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (1)
Defense: (372 - 414) to (629 - 699)
Chance to Block: Class%
Required Level: 24
Required Dexterity: 81
Item Level: 36
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
+(1 to 2) to Druid Skill Levels
+(1 to 2) to Sorceress Skill Levels
+(71 to 90)% Enhanced Defense
+30 to all Attributes
+20 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (4)
Defense: (920 - 1007) to (1503 - 1645)
Chance to Block: Class%
Required Level: 42
Required Dexterity: 170
Item Level: 51
+2 to All Skills
+2 to Druid Skill Levels
+2 to Sorceress Skill Levels
+(101 to 120)% Enhanced Defense
+40 to all Attributes
+30 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (5)
Defense: (1443 - 1687) to (2346 - 2743)
Chance to Block: Class%
Required Level: 51
Required Dexterity: 353
Item Level: 85
+2 to All Skills
+2 to Druid Skill Levels
+2 to Sorceress Skill Levels
+(131 to 170)% Enhanced Defense
+50 to all Attributes
+40 Life Regenerated per Second
Socketed (6)

Umbaru's Jinx

Umbaru's Jinx
Mask (4)
Defense: (116 - 126) to (195 - 209)
Required Level: 7
Required Strength: 30
Item Level: 10
+(0 to 1) to Necromancer Skill Levels
15% Hit Recovery
+(6 to 10)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(21 to 40)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(31 to 50)% Enhanced Defense
+(51 to 100) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (11 to 20)%
Physical Resist 1%
(6 to 10)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (1)
Defense: (416 - 448) to (546 - 587)
Required Level: 24
Required Strength: 60
Item Level: 31
+(0 to 1) to Necromancer Skill Levels
30% Hit Recovery
+(11 to 15)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(41 to 60)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(61 to 80)% Enhanced Defense
+(151 to 200) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (21 to 30)%
Physical Resist 2%
(11 to 20)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (3)
Defense: (927 - 994) to (1163 - 1249)
Required Level: 42
Required Strength: 210
Item Level: 51
+(0 to 2) to Necromancer Skill Levels
45% Hit Recovery
+(16 to 20)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(61 to 80)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(91 to 110)% Enhanced Defense
+(251 to 300) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (31 to 40)%
Physical Resist 3%
(21 to 30)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (4)
Defense: (1422 - 1515) to (1759 - 1876)
Required Level: 50
Required Strength: 420
Item Level: 77
+(1 to 2) to Necromancer Skill Levels
60% Hit Recovery
+(21 to 25)% to Summoned Minion Damage
+(81 to 100)% to Summoned Minion Attack Rating
+(121 to 140)% Enhanced Defense
+(351 to 400) Defense
Poison Length Reduced by (41 to 50)%
Physical Resist 4%
(31 to 40)% Bonus to Defense
Socketed (4)

Wormtongue

Wormtongue
Light Belt (4)
Defense: (53 - 58) to (71 - 78)
Required Level: 3
Required Strength: 26
Item Level: 1
(31 to 50)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 5-13 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(2 to 4)% Life stolen per Hit
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+(11 to 15) to Dexterity
Socketed (1)
Defense: (214 - 231) to (259 - 279)
Required Level: 21
Required Strength: 55
Item Level: 31
(71 to 90)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 19-50 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(8 to 10)% Life stolen per Hit
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+(21 to 25) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
Defense: (544 - 581) to (649 - 693)
Required Level: 38
Required Strength: 192
Item Level: 51
(111 to 130)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 75-150 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(14 to 16)% Life stolen per Hit
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+(31 to 35) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)
Defense: (801 - 851) to (946 - 1006)
Required Level: 46
Required Strength: 384
Item Level: 77
(131 to 150)% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 100-250 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
(17 to 19)% Life stolen per Hit
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+(36 to 40) to Dexterity
Socketed (2)

Toorc's Gift

Toorc's Gift
Chain Gloves (4)
Defense: (26 - 30) to (47 - 54)
Required Level: 5
Required Strength: 28
Item Level: 10
2% Chance to cast level 1 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
5% Attack Speed
Stun Attack
+(12 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(11 to 15)%
Socketed (1)
Defense: (155 - 172) to (211 - 234)
Required Level: 22
Required Strength: 57
Item Level: 31
3% Chance to cast level 2 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
15% Attack Speed
Adds (11 to 15)-(16 to 25) Cold Damage
Stun Attack
+(47 to 63)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(21 to 25)%
Socketed (2)
Defense: (434 - 472) to (573 - 624)
Required Level: 40
Required Strength: 201
Item Level: 51
4% Chance to cast level 3 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
25% Attack Speed
Adds (36 to 45)-(46 to 63) Cold Damage
Stun Attack
+(81 to 97)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(31 to 35)%
Socketed (3)
Defense: (657 - 710) to (859 - 928)
Required Level: 48
Required Strength: 402
Item Level: 77
5% Chance to cast level 3 Glacial Nova on Melee Attack
30% Attack Speed
Adds (81 to 100)-(101 to 125) Cold Damage
Stun Attack
+(98 to 114)% Enhanced Defense
Cold Resist +(36 to 40)%
Socketed (4)

Lionpaw

Lionpaw
Chain Boots (4)
Defense: (49 - 54) to (71 - 78)
Required Level: 4
Required Strength: 29
Item Level: 10
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(18 to 29)% Enhanced Defense
+(7 to 10) to all Attributes
+(31 to 50) to Life
+(16 to 25) to Mana
(3 to 5)% Bonus to Defense
10% Gold Find
Socketed (1)
Defense: (203 - 218) to (267 - 288)
Required Level: 22
Required Strength: 58
Item Level: 31
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(41 to 52)% Enhanced Defense
+(15 to 18) to all Attributes
+(71 to 90) to Life
+(36 to 45) to Mana
(9 to 11)% Bonus to Defense
15% Gold Find
Socketed (2)
Defense: (519 - 554) to (667 - 712)
Required Level: 39
Required Strength: 202
Item Level: 51
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(64 to 75)% Enhanced Defense
+(23 to 26) to all Attributes
+(111 to 130) to Life
+(56 to 65) to Mana
(15 to 17)% Bonus to Defense
20% Gold Find
Socketed (3)
Defense: (759 - 807) to (974 - 1036)
Required Level: 48
Required Strength: 403
Item Level: 77
(10 to 40)% Movement Speed
+(75 to 86)% Enhanced Defense
+(31 to 35) to all Attributes
+(131 to 150) to Life
+(66 to 75) to Mana
(18 to 20)% Bonus to Defense
25% Gold Find
Socketed (4)

MOs = ED, TCD, DEX. Flat DR+Mana regen on jewelry. Remaining MO space = MF (Life regen on armor would probably have made things easier, but MF is more helpful in the long run, I think).

What jewels are you crafting for RWs?

For the 115 gear? None. I'm lazy, so I just used whatever jewels I had collected with +1% All Attributes and enough IAS to hit the 5 fpa BP (which is really important going forward).

But ideally, Ber-crafts for LL, with +2% DEX and res (though crafted +1% All Attributes and res are probably fine and easier to get).

seems the build is starting to fall off pretty hard on 125 bosses for me using the set.