Kingdom of shadows (Ureh) - need advice

[Marco]

Nothing is dragging you back. It's client <-> server desync caused due to lag.

For example check this video:
https://youtu.be/T-ytG6iepDo?t=53

At minute 1:03 I get stuck in a group and I apparently manage to "go out", and at 1:04 you can see a mob that doesn't even notice me. That's because on client side I managed to get out of the mob, but server-side I actually got blocked, so I was actually in a diff place (at 1:05 it syncs and can see the real location). The key is to have fast walk speed so you can run back and forth as well as do zig-zagging and prevent getting swarmed.

Whenever you feel you're blocked simply use a teleport, it's usually pretty easy to notice because citizens don't move. Its kind of what makes ureh fun in multiplayer.

[OnlyForFun]

no right's to watch video

[Nitz]

Its kind of what makes ureh fun in multiplayer.

https://youtu.be/T-ytG6iepDo?t=53

Video is private

[Marco]

Sorry, fixed now Kappa

[W23]

Nothing is dragging you back. It's client <-> server desync caused due to lag.

For example check this video:
https://youtu.be/T-ytG6iepDo?t=53

At minute 1:03 I get stuck in a group and I apparently manage to "go out", and at 1:04 you can see a mob that doesn't even notice me. That's because on client side I managed to get out of the mob, but server-side I actually got blocked, so I was actually in a diff place (at 1:05 it syncs and can see the real location). The key is to have fast walk speed so you can run back and forth as well as do zig-zagging and prevent getting swarmed.

Whenever you feel you're blocked simply use a teleport, it's usually pretty easy to notice because citizens don't move. Its kind of what makes ureh fun in multiplayer.

That's makes sense now. I did it on hatred earlier and played around with it. Kept running forward and going back did it 15 times in a row once to try to figure it out and thought it was some poison mechanic. That also explains why teleporting breaks it. Those guys can actually surround you and not make you move (didn't know). After 5 hours or so I just realized that now after I'm done with it. I got my bones I'm done with that trippy dungeon for the time being at least.

Some places I can't really do effectively online. I even got on gs #8 (Colorado) and my ping was 147 (usually 300-400 ping) at one point so I figured it's probably not lag. Client/Server-side is hard to diagnose on a game especially when you're new and wondering if it's a spell or something.

[quote="Nitz"]Its kind of what makes ureh fun in multiplayer.

Yea, and easier. Time for duncraig I think which is next on the docs.

[Nitz]

Yea, and easier. Time for duncraig I think which is next on the docs.

I really wouldn't do the same order as the docs say.

Toraja is easier than Vizijun. Wretched Hive surely is much easier than other "impossible" ubers.

With cheap tanky gear, blink, good run speed, potions and luck Vizijun can be done as soon as you have assurs Bane from Duncraig.

[suchbalance]

I really wouldn't do the same order as the docs say.

Toraja is easier than Vizijun. Wretched Hive surely is much easier than other "impossible" ubers.

With cheap tanky gear, blink, good run speed, potions and luck Vizijun can be done as soon as you have assurs Bane from Duncraig.

The uber order in the docs is written in a way to be kind of "character neutral". Because there are so many different builds with different specialisations in the game it will never be completely accurate. Also the difficulty mainly has relevance for the ubers in the same category.

For example if you play an unholy caster then sure - wretched hive is probably easier than yshari or duncraig. However if you play a storm amazon - I can tell you that the wretched hive was by far the most difficult of all the uber levels.

Basically - take the ordering with a grain of salt if you are new and not sure what your char niche is.

[W23]

Yea, and easier. Time for duncraig I think which is next on the docs.

I really wouldn't do the same order as the docs say.

Toraja is easier than Vizijun. Wretched Hive surely is much easier than other "impossible" ubers.

With cheap tanky gear, blink, good run speed, potions and luck Vizijun can be done as soon as you have assurs Bane from Duncraig.

What I got left (left out unformed land which I beat, but don't have the upgraded version and this other left out the other area - come back to this a little later).

Dungeons:
Vizjun
Toraja
Startled Witch
Uldyssian
The Void

Summoning:
Brother Laz
MarcoNecroX
Secret: Inarius’ Revenge

Uberlevels:
Duncraig
Yshari Sanctum
Wretched Hive

Herioc I'm kind of lost on my paladin with them. Not sure how to get around the immunities. I think the only thing that works is purity or you have to be a class that bypass the immunities?

Herioc:
Bull Prince Rodeo
Quov Tsin
Belial
Athulua
Astrogha
Kabraxis

Baal:
I need to figure out a way to take down baal at some point on destruction. I'm assuming he's equal to very hard or impossible somewhere in there.

I really wouldn't do the same order as the docs say.

Toraja is easier than Vizijun. Wretched Hive surely is much easier than other "impossible" ubers.

With cheap tanky gear, blink, good run speed, potions and luck Vizijun can be done as soon as you have assurs Bane from Duncraig.

The uber order in the docs is written in a way to be kind of "character neutral". Because there are so many different builds with different specialisations in the game it will never be completely accurate. Also the difficulty mainly has relevance for the ubers in the same category.

For example if you play an unholy caster then sure - wretched hive is probably easier than yshari or duncraig. However if you play a storm amazon - I can tell you that the wretched hive was by far the most difficult of all the uber levels.

Basically - take the ordering with a grain of salt if you are new and not sure what your char niche is.

Makes sense. I use other sites to which have them in other orders and I figure some of the information is out of date at this time so I just kind of play around within my level area.

[Seekers]

Yea, and easier. Time for duncraig I think which is next on the docs.

I really wouldn't do the same order as the docs say.

Toraja is easier than Vizijun. Wretched Hive surely is much easier than other "impossible" ubers.

With cheap tanky gear, blink, good run speed, potions and luck Vizijun can be done as soon as you have assurs Bane from Duncraig.

What I got left (left out unformed land which I beat, but don't have the upgraded version and this other left out the other area - come back to this a little later).

Dungeons:
Vizjun
Toraja
Startled Witch
Uldyssian
The Void

Summoning:
Brother Laz
MarcoNecroX
Secret: Inarius’ Revenge

Uberlevels:
Duncraig
Yshari Sanctum
Wretched Hive

Herioc I'm kind of lost on my paladin with them. Not sure how to get around the immunities. I think the only thing that works is purity or you have to be a class that bypass the immunities?

Herioc:
Bull Prince Rodeo
Quov Tsin
Belial
Athulua
Astrogha
Kabraxis

Baal:
I need to figure out a way to take down baal at some point on destruction. I'm assuming he's equal to very hard or impossible somewhere in there.

Secret: Inarius Revenge is super easy, if you don't know where to summon him think: Where could inarius be? What does Inarius at CoV tell you when you defeat him? (yes, don't be so quick to tp out when you kill Inarius next time).

Heroics: The bosses have got some base resists, and they gain 0-400% all resist each second (different value for all resists). So what you do is keep attacking until the boss drops it's resistances.
TIP: Choose an element except poison, then get -199 resists of that element and stack sd of that element. Hit the boss with a skill of said element till it drops immunities. With enough dmg you'll probably kill them in one drop, as all these bosses have low HP.
Quov Tsin: Get 90 all res (sometimes less, depends on your replenish life, absorb, etc) and you can tank him forever.
Toraja is insanely easy, just get decent summons (hoplites work wonders here) and let edyrems dispel their immunity, then attack. The mobs here have less HP than fallens in hatred so once their immunities are down they die if you fart in their direction.

[W23]

Yea, and easier. Time for duncraig I think which is next on the docs.

I really wouldn't do the same order as the docs say.

Toraja is easier than Vizijun. Wretched Hive surely is much easier than other "impossible" ubers.

With cheap tanky gear, blink, good run speed, potions and luck Vizijun can be done as soon as you have assurs Bane from Duncraig.

What I got left (left out unformed land which I beat, but don't have the upgraded version and this other left out the other area - come back to this a little later).

Dungeons:
Vizjun
Toraja
Startled Witch
Uldyssian
The Void

Summoning:
Brother Laz
MarcoNecroX
Secret: Inarius’ Revenge

Uberlevels:
Duncraig
Yshari Sanctum
Wretched Hive

Herioc I'm kind of lost on my paladin with them. Not sure how to get around the immunities. I think the only thing that works is purity or you have to be a class that bypass the immunities?

Herioc:
Bull Prince Rodeo
Quov Tsin
Belial
Athulua
Astrogha
Kabraxis

Baal:
I need to figure out a way to take down baal at some point on destruction. I'm assuming he's equal to very hard or impossible somewhere in there.

Secret: Inarius Revenge is super easy, if you don't know where to summon him think: Where could inarius be? What does Inarius at CoV tell you when you defeat him? (yes, don't be so quick to tp out when you kill Inarius next time).

Heroics: The bosses have got some base resists, and they gain 0-400% all resist each second (different value for all resists). So what you do is keep attacking until the boss drops it's resistances.
TIP: Choose an element except poison, then get -199 resists of that element and stack sd of that element. Hit the boss with a skill of said element till it drops immunities. With enough dmg you'll probably kill them in one drop, as all these bosses have low HP.
Quov Tsin: Get 90 all res (sometimes less, depends on your replenish life, absorb, etc) and you can tank him forever.
Toraja is insanely easy, just get decent summons (hoplites work wonders here) and let edyrems dispel their immunity, then attack. The mobs here have less HP than fallens in hatred so once their immunities are down they die if you fart in their direction.

I'll have to play around with this. I don't think I've ever been there though. Mostly been working my way up through the docs.

Yea, and easier. Time for duncraig I think which is next on the docs.

I really wouldn't do the same order as the docs say.

Toraja is easier than Vizijun. Wretched Hive surely is much easier than other "impossible" ubers.

With cheap tanky gear, blink, good run speed, potions and luck Vizijun can be done as soon as you have assurs Bane from Duncraig.

Edit: Duncraig is way easier than kingdom of shadow (ureh). You were right about the docs being off. Duncraig is a cake walk when compared to Ureh. That's based off the maps more than anything though not the actually skill required to kill the boss even though Duncraig (assur) is pretty easy once you get the strategy down. Just got done with my first full attempt (servers went down first time - forgot about them). All it requires is just running in circles and watching his meteor shower (not sure name) and everything else is pretty easy.

Duncraig is definitely easier than fighting the guy at the Triune as well. All you need is like 5-6 hits. Don't remember the exact count I got on him and it's hard to count because you can't stand still and he definitely moves very fast at times to see if you got a hit on him.

Once I get more experience with it as well the area seems pretty easy to farm and tons of sacred uniques (think this is the area that it's higher). Got a skythorne probably the best item I got there, but I'm not sure if it's actually that good (don't know much about druid at this point).

I keep calling him Duncraig (It's Assur - duncraig is the name of the place I think.)