Need Help With Melee Sorc

I would use Kra rw armor instead of Nih rw since you don't benefit much from the str% and dex%

no damage reduce?

Hi aknazer,

Firstly i'm sooooo happy getting a reply from you, whereby my melee sorc started her journey using most of the information through your guide!

Big thanks for taking time to make the warp blade and posting the screenie!

I'm lucky to have gotten a Sacred Warp Blade, luck trial succeeded, but didn't work much on AR nor orb before RW, i'll have a look on it and as well reroll the rares jewels for now until i could start crafting jewels.

Never thought about LOSIM/LAEK, i see that Baneblade provides LOSIM and it work wonders, thanks again for the tips.

Believe it or not, the realm version of EMP band is the one thing that got me hooked and decided to try playing on realm, when i first found a screenshot about the stats i was puzzled why does it looks so different compared to mine in SP.
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Hi ChuckNoRis,
Nice spoilers! XD
But i agree with the idea of your guide, Tslam oskill to provide an opening (Which i'm very familiar with my tantrum barb) and inner fire (again what i did with the tantrum barb coz the gift box gave me that sword).

The skill actually helps alot during a longer fight, helping to preserve the much limited healing pots on belt, yet to mention that the healing is almost instant. (Saved my barb's ass for alot of time)

As i dont use Fussilade/Firedance, inner fire has no issue at all to fit in to my build.

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Hey there Fumbles,

LMAO, the last line, i might continue on barb after i somewhat maxing the gears on sorc.

Your guide is the one that lead me on Tantrum Barb, at first i was sceptical about the Oskill Tantrum, the damage number on stat screen is just soooooo small, until i raped a boss... >.>

Breaking the original image for barb in lod which takes things up close and personal.

Developed the habit of starting off with Tslam+Poison before lvl 21 gaining access to Tantrum.

About the Erawan RW, i don't have a Nih Rune to try out, but i like the idea of 25% Str and DR, opening more choices or jewels that i can roll for other parts as i'm currently throwing all -10 req jewels on, meanwhile the Vith Rune Belt is something that i can work on after getting a suitable sacred belt.

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To all three
Summary, i learn the correct way of making the base item for RW, LOSIM/LAEK and getting DR for less LL/LOSIM/LAEK needs

Will be working on Xar Sacred Warp Blade and Vith Rune Belt for starters!

Gekko64 wrote:I would use Kra rw armor instead of Nih rw since you don't benefit much from the str% and dex%

Checked about Kra Body Armor RW, while the +(3.5 per level)% Enhanced Defense (Based on Character Level) certainly looks sexy, but i'm sacrificing alot of other utility from On Sorc Body Armor RW, which doesn't seems appealing.

Nih Body Armor RW in the other hand does gives me the much needed 25% Str for equipment's sake and the 15% DR (or hopefully 16% with luck oil) does helps alot, as my current issue on jewels is that i'm stuck rolling -10% Requirements, rendering loss of overall benefit that i could gain from jewels, like 2%dex and AR ect ect.

I was just comparing Kra to Nih for melee sorc, didn't check On sorc armor but now that I do it does seem like the way to go IF you're focusing on elemental procs ( with vengeful power + nova charge to buff them )

why do you feel like you need all that strength from nih rw? sorc body armors need dex as do shields, and deadfall should provide enough str to let you equip the rest of the gear

you also don't need AR jewels since you should be going full dex

Hi Gekko64,

For some odd reason, i'm only hitting about 90% in Des Act4, which makes me wants more AR in some way.
At the same time trying to use Crafted Sacred Glove and Heavy Boots which needed 490ish str (and maybe a Vith belt coming in soon)

Hence the Nih Armor seems appealing in some way for it's Str% and DR, which i might give it a go, and un-socket if it doesn't work as good as On Sorc Body Armor. xD

ChuckNoRis wrote:
aknazer wrote:It's a timered skill
yes , it's a timered skill that you should use whenever the heal pots are not enough and you need to escape a certain death . i'm sure you'd want to heal instead of using another timered skill in that moment. it's not a skill that you must use every 5 seconds when you got a belt full of heal pots . use it only if the situation requires so . my build does not use fusilade , and don't tell me Firedance has a big timer

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it also seams i need to repeat this every few days : guides are not ment to be followed brainless . if the player believes that "x" item would suit his style/needs better than the "y" suggested , he must use it. the miniguides are geared with what suited my needs . i do not expect everybody to have the same needs because the needs are different from every player , different playstyles , different experience , different knowledge of the game mechanics .

guides are there to give you some ideas , not to be followed 100% by the letter .

I get that, which was why I said that if he uses timered abilities for attacking then he will likely not be able to use it when needed. If one doesn't use timered abilities then it's fine. Also there's the timered ability one can get on their boots, though I forget it's name as I wasn't a huge fan back when I initially tried it.

And no, I'm not saying FD has a long timer. But Fusilade does and the oskill from crafted boots does too.

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heamn wrote:Hi aknazer,

Firstly i'm sooooo happy getting a reply from you, whereby my melee sorc started her journey using most of the information through your guide!

Big thanks for taking time to make the warp blade and posting the screenie!

I'm lucky to have gotten a Sacred Warp Blade, luck trial succeeded, but didn't work much on AR nor orb before RW, i'll have a look on it and as well reroll the rares jewels for now until i could start crafting jewels.

Never thought about LOSIM/LAEK, i see that Baneblade provides LOSIM and it work wonders, thanks again for the tips.

Believe it or not, the realm version of EMP band is the one thing that got me hooked and decided to try playing on realm, when i first found a screenshot about the stats i was puzzled why does it looks so different compared to mine in SP.
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Glad the tips and SS helped.

heamn wrote:Hi Gekko64,

For some odd reason, i'm only hitting about 90% in Des Act4, which makes me wants more AR in some way.
At the same time trying to use Crafted Sacred Glove and Heavy Boots which needed 490ish str (and maybe a Vith belt coming in soon)

Hence the Nih Armor seems appealing in some way for it's Str% and DR, which i might give it a go, and un-socket if it doesn't work as good as On Sorc Body Armor. xD

Don't forget about the On RW for the shield. It alone provides +31-40% STR which is really nice. I'm also not surprised that you don't have 95% hit in Des if you don't have AR jewels. At this stage of character development you just don't have enough points to boost it up from Dex alone, especially if you're using a bunch of points in STR for gear. Also you can consider using a non-sacred version of str armor for a bit. This will let you put more points into Dex in order to get ubers for charms/gear. For example Sacred Leather Gloves or a Sash requires 5-8x the STR of a T6 version but gives maybe 2-3x the armor bonus. Worthwhile once you get various charms that gives +str and +str%, but when it costs you 100-200+ Dex from stat points and you haven't eaten many/any stat point cookies you might want to give it a second thought. And for every -req jewel you use in a non-RW that's +5% dex that you're losing out on from not being able to use a perf amethyst (3% lost compared to a 2% dex jewel).

All just things to think about. Depending on where exactly you're stuck I would say that the largest single problem is simply the weapon. Also you might consider using a merc. I know that my Bloodmage with his crafted gear is able to solo Infernal Device and likely other Ubers, though I've only just hit Act 2 Destruction.

aknazer wrote:
Don't forget about the On RW for the shield. It alone provides +31-40% STR which is really nice. I'm also not surprised that you don't have 95% hit in Des if you don't have AR jewels. At this stage of character development you just don't have enough points to boost it up from Dex alone, especially if you're using a bunch of points in STR for gear. Also you can consider using a non-sacred version of str armor for a bit. This will let you put more points into Dex in order to get ubers for charms/gear. For example Sacred Leather Gloves or a Sash requires 5-8x the STR of a T6 version but gives maybe 2-3x the armor bonus. Worthwhile once you get various charms that gives +str and +str%, but when it costs you 100-200+ Dex from stat points and you haven't eaten many/any stat point cookies you might want to give it a second thought. And for every -req jewel you use in a non-RW that's +5% dex that you're losing out on from not being able to use a perf amethyst (3% lost compared to a 2% dex jewel).

All just things to think about. Depending on where exactly you're stuck I would say that the largest single problem is simply the weapon. Also you might consider using a merc. I know that my Bloodmage with his crafted gear is able to solo Infernal Device and likely other Ubers, though I've only just hit Act 2 Destruction.

Hi aknazer,
Taken your advice seriously and done below, however i might still need help if you don't mind.
1) Xar Sacred Warp Blade - and the damage is quite close with the one you've posted and stormed till Destruction Act5
2) Unsocket and MO'ed the Armor before RW - Remained as On but now about 17.5k Def
3) Taken a T6 Belt and made Vith RW Belt, lessen the burn for Str by ALOT
4) Made On RW Sacred Spike Shield - About 5.2k def (Found that without a proper base STR, the 40% Str actually does nothing XD)
5) MO'ed STR to 2x Rings to lessen the Stat Points needed
6) Went and try getting a few easy charm - still working on KB3K atm
7) Have not gotten any Nih Rune to craft LOSIM jewels, resorted to Ber for LL jewels for now.

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I feel like i could do something with the glove, however the 1 Sorc Skill and Stormblast Proc is too hard to give up.

Charms that i've gotten so far (died alot)

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Below is a Screenshot of my char fully buffed and with Moonstrike Active

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Currently feeling stuck progressing Act5 (Reached Arreat Plateau for now). I find that elite mobs in Act5 still hits me 11% of the time according to the stat screen, which at times i just simply being put down without even having the chance to pop moon symbols.

I've taken a defensive approach to retreat if encounter a large pack, throw in a few summons as offering and then go in from side to start mowing. (Same tactic i used for KB3K).

But i still die relatively easy, which makes me feeling discouraged, am i doing something wrong?

and uh also needed suggestion on Amulet, which of these are better?
1) Mythal - i read that Mythal helps lowering enemy RES when proc, but i don't visually see the skill itself.
2) Banish - Since we strike alot, and the Skill Description in documentation says that Banish reduce's target life, would this be viable?
3) Lava Pit - This is the one proc that i visually see.

Done testing with Des Mephisto multiple times
1) Mythal - when it procs i can visually see Mephisto's HP going down more rapidly
2) Banish - No effect seen/felt
3) Lava Pit - Proc'ed quite often, felt that effectiveness is almost the same as Mythal, but it wont work with fire immune that is.

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