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Diaco wrote:
Jampula wrote:I do have both so can't wait to hit 100, and there are many other alternatives. Just wondering how Trinity Beam works as a proc. I played Trinity pala a few patches ago and as the name tells, it is a beam, so it proc a single piece of beam?


It procs the entire beam, just like the oskill on wizards pike.

The only doubt I have is whether there's any document with the Windform breakpoints for IAS

The build works incredibly well for farming BTW, haven't tried bossing yet. Amazingly fast and easy bremmtown, the trophy is a breeze.


What other gear pieces is rwcommenden v
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Diaco wrote:
Jampula wrote:I do have both so can't wait to hit 100, and there are many other alternatives. Just wondering how Trinity Beam works as a proc. I played Trinity pala a few patches ago and as the name tells, it is a beam, so it proc a single piece of beam?


It procs the entire beam, just like the oskill on wizards pike.

The only doubt I have is whether there's any document with the Windform breakpoints for IAS

The build works incredibly well for farming BTW, haven't tried bossing yet. Amazingly fast and easy bremmtown, the trophy is a breeze.



is mana leech issue with WW?


Not in the late game. But honestly, that's the only moment you'd be able to use the build since you need lvl100 to equip the gear, and also many stat points to reach vizjerey's insane dex requirement + still have enough left for a decent energy synergy
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Diaco wrote:
Ruubel wrote:
Diaco wrote:
Jampula wrote:I do have both so can't wait to hit 100, and there are many other alternatives. Just wondering how Trinity Beam works as a proc. I played Trinity pala a few patches ago and as the name tells, it is a beam, so it proc a single piece of beam?


It procs the entire beam, just like the oskill on wizards pike.

The only doubt I have is whether there's any document with the Windform breakpoints for IAS

The build works incredibly well for farming BTW, haven't tried bossing yet. Amazingly fast and easy bremmtown, the trophy is a breeze.



is mana leech issue with WW?


Not in the late game. But honestly, that's the only moment you'd be able to use the build since you need lvl100 to equip the gear, and also many stat points to reach vizjerey's insane dex requirement + still have enough left for a decent energy synergy

And if you want to lvl as one, few sapphires on weapons or TU horned helm (or bone helm) carry you a long way.

Bosses die before your mana so it's not a problem.
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Jampula wrote:Ok, so no to that helm. And Assault Helmets Flash is pretty much in the same category.


Your plan sounds good but Windform is sword-only. I made two Flamberges to freeze stuff and it has been a breeze (get it?), just killed Diablo in seconds. Really have high hopes for ubering, farming is a big no obviously but I have other chars for that. I'm propably the only one who hates the new stance-system but I manage.

Edit: Didn't notice the off-hand sword for some reason. Scratch that.


Btw flash is surprisingly good but there's not many options to build around lightning based procs.

You're using any random sword as off-hand to enable using of whirlwind, mainhand weapon that will strike enemies can be ANY other 1-hander.

PS: Whirlwind breakpoints is very simple opposite to what you told :) You simply get WSM of weapon and minus IAS number on weapon itselfto get new "effective WSM". Breakpoints there come in hitchecks between given number of frames while whirling. For 1-handers (AND 2-h swords! They're counted as 1-handed weapons no matter if you hold them with one or both hands) it's: 15, 10, -10, -34 for 12,10,8,6,4 frames
Example: You have TU1 War hammer with 10 WSM and 30 IAS on it. To get your attack speed you will do 10-30=-20, so you got pre-last breakpoint which means you will hit random target every 6 frames while whirling (read as 6 fpa) To achieve 4 fpa you need to add 14 more IAS on weapon itself. If you using dualwield - then better get max fpa on both weapons so you will hit 2 targets at once with 4 fpa. If they're have different breakpoints - hitcheck/attack speed will alter from one weapon to another each time your attack miss (it's not mean that you will also hit with another weapon - only attack speed will change).

Diaco wrote:
Ruubel wrote:is mana leech issue with WW?


Not in the late game. But honestly, that's the only moment you'd be able to use the build since you need lvl100 to equip the gear, and also many stat points to reach vizjerey's insane dex requirement + still have enough left for a decent energy synergy

Me leveled to 100 from zero... countering mana leech is incredibly easy, even single mana on attack orb will cover whole thing.
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Scalewinged wrote:Me leveled to 100 from zero... countering mana leech is incredibly easy, even single mana on attack orb will cover whole thing.

How I forgot that MO... goodbuy sapphires.


But that speed-breakpointing I'm not so sure of.
Have you actually tested that it's as you say?

No offence or anything. Soon got my baldy to 100's to test stuff.
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I know -34 wIAS is the fastest breakpoint for swords (both 1h and 2h). Not sure if information for other weapon types is available.
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Jampula wrote:
Scalewinged wrote:Me leveled to 100 from zero... countering mana leech is incredibly easy, even single mana on attack orb will cover whole thing.

How I forgot that MO... goodbuy sapphires.


But that speed-breakpointing I'm not so sure of.
Have you actually tested that it's as you say?

No offence or anything. Soon got my baldy to 100's to test stuff.


Ye i read it from d2 wiki and ofc tested aswell Seems like there's huuuuuge difference between 0 and 50 IAS but nothing if you get more.
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Scalewinged wrote:
Jampula wrote:
Scalewinged wrote:Me leveled to 100 from zero... countering mana leech is incredibly easy, even single mana on attack orb will cover whole thing.

How I forgot that MO... goodbuy sapphires.


But that speed-breakpointing I'm not so sure of.
Have you actually tested that it's as you say?

No offence or anything. Soon got my baldy to 100's to test stuff.


Ye i read it from d2 wiki and ofc tested aswell Seems like there's huuuuuge difference between 0 and 50 IAS but nothing if you get more.


This is also pretty easy to test buffing with thundergod and watching the trail of stunned enemies to see how many times it's hitting. Definitely not 9fpa. Also, way more procs than when I tested Vizjerey with a superbeast paladin (5fpa).
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Diaco wrote:
Scalewinged wrote:
Jampula wrote:
Scalewinged wrote:Me leveled to 100 from zero... countering mana leech is incredibly easy, even single mana on attack orb will cover whole thing.

How I forgot that MO... goodbuy sapphires.


But that speed-breakpointing I'm not so sure of.
Have you actually tested that it's as you say?

No offence or anything. Soon got my baldy to 100's to test stuff.


Ye i read it from d2 wiki and ofc tested aswell Seems like there's huuuuuge difference between 0 and 50 IAS but nothing if you get more.


This is also pretty easy to test buffing with thundergod and watching the trail of stunned enemies to see how many times it's hitting. Definitely not 9fpa. Also, way more procs than when I tested Vizjerey with a superbeast paladin (5fpa).


Agreed. That's great proc machine.. even 5% Glacial nova on TU Heavy Gloves proc like mad. Esp in hordes
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Hy, one question about trap assassin. Does spell damage count for the trap damages or not? I know that pierce items doesn't (just some SU's), but what about spell damage /energy/spell focus? Thx