Short Questions Thread

[patrick_pkl]

In terms of just DPS comparison, would running two

Ripstar

Ripstar
Ring
Required Level: 60
Item Level: 60
+0.5625 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+20 Life on Melee Attack

or

Giant's Knuckle

Giant's Knuckle
Ring
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
20% Attack Speed
Adds 10-15 Damage
(5 to 10)% Life stolen per Hit
5% Deadly Strike
+25 Life Regenerated per Second
Physical Resist 5%

be better on a pounce Spearzon? I'm just using it to farm Fauz and don't really need the physical resistance that much with the high defense on a Spearzon. Just want to clear it as fast as possible.

I easily hit my attackspeed breakpoints using Takedown, so I don't really need the IAS from giant's knuckles. So I'm not sure if the 10% deadly strike on Giant's knuckles is sufficient to make up for the massive raw damage boost from Ripstars at high levels.
I'm running a

Serenthia's Scorn

Serenthia's Scorn
Maiden Pike (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (124 - 167) to (224 - 302)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 350
Required Dexterity: 590
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Amazing Grace
Gematria
(Bonus for each Socketed Great/Elemental Rune)
+1 to All Skills
+2.5% Physical Resist
+30 Life After Each Kill
-10% to Enemy Poison Resistance
1% Chance to cast level 50 Rotting Flesh on Striking
+1000 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(100 to 170)% Enhanced Damage
+(1000 to 2000) Defense
+(50 to 100) to all Attributes
+(400 to 750) to Life
Socketed (6)

as my weapon if that factors into the equation somehow.

Are there any non-UMO that make the extra MO space on Ripstars an added advantage?

If you are using serenthia's, the fastest clearing build is full poison. Use max curare,

Astrogha's Moon

Astrogha's Moon
(Wyrd Set)

Darkling
Viper Skin
Angel of Death

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
Maximum Poison Resist +2%
Poison Resist +75%

Set Bonus with complete set:
-25% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+23 to Amatoxin
Slow Target 5%

,

Scales of the Drake

Scales of the Drake
Ring Mail (Sacred)
Defense: (5239 - 5921) to (5764 - 6514)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 550
Item Level: 120
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
30% Cast Speed
+(25 to 38)% to Poison Spell Damage
-35% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(14 to 18) to Lorenado
+(115 to 143)% Enhanced Defense
+300 to Life
Maximum Poison Resist +5%
Physical Resist (5 to 10)%
Socketed (6)

or

Scales of the Serpent

Scales of the Serpent
Gothic Plate (Sacred)
Defense: (7481 - 8308) to (9074 - 10078)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 675
Item Level: 105
15% Chance to cast level 40 Arachnomancy on Melee Attack
4% Chance to cast level 12 Time Strike on Striking
(31 to 40)% Hit Recovery
+90% Damage to Undead
Adds 200-300 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
-35% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(25 to 30)%
+(144 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
+100 to Strength
+50 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (6)

and aim for 135 poison pierce.

Thanks, I've hit -140 poison pierce from the rest of my equips. So I'm just wondering about how to optimize my dps further on my rings. Thought a mix of some physical dmg to help with poison absorbs would be helpful (vs maybe getting +1 skills for curare with ring of the five). What would u recommend in terms of rings?

[patrick_pkl]

In terms of just DPS comparison, would running two

Ripstar

Ripstar
Ring
Required Level: 60
Item Level: 60
+0.5625 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+20 Life on Melee Attack

or

Giant's Knuckle

Giant's Knuckle
Ring
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
20% Attack Speed
Adds 10-15 Damage
(5 to 10)% Life stolen per Hit
5% Deadly Strike
+25 Life Regenerated per Second
Physical Resist 5%

be better on a pounce Spearzon? I'm just using it to farm Fauz and don't really need the physical resistance that much with the high defense on a Spearzon. Just want to clear it as fast as possible.

I easily hit my attackspeed breakpoints using Takedown, so I don't really need the IAS from giant's knuckles. So I'm not sure if the 10% deadly strike on Giant's knuckles is sufficient to make up for the massive raw damage boost from Ripstars at high levels.
I'm running a

Serenthia's Scorn

Serenthia's Scorn
Maiden Pike (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (124 - 167) to (224 - 302)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 350
Required Dexterity: 590
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Amazing Grace
Gematria
(Bonus for each Socketed Great/Elemental Rune)
+1 to All Skills
+2.5% Physical Resist
+30 Life After Each Kill
-10% to Enemy Poison Resistance
1% Chance to cast level 50 Rotting Flesh on Striking
+1000 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(100 to 170)% Enhanced Damage
+(1000 to 2000) Defense
+(50 to 100) to all Attributes
+(400 to 750) to Life
Socketed (6)

as my weapon if that factors into the equation somehow.

Are there any non-UMO that make the extra MO space on Ripstars an added advantage?

Can just run

Xorine's Ring

Xorine's Ring
Ring
Required Level: 80
Item Level: 80
+1 Projectile to Punisher
10% Chance to cast level 19 Punishers on Kill
(51 to 100)% Bonus to Attack Rating
-(3 to 5)% to Enemy Poison Resistance

or a rare with mf too, since most of the damage comes from poison.

How would the 25-75 poison damage over 1 sec interact with curare's 2 sec duration?
Would the punishers do significant poison damage?

Thought to utilize the massive EWD bonus from lionheart by using rings with raw damage on them. I compared the extra damage from +1 skills which gave 400 more poison damage over 2s, and thought +1 skills didn't quite compare to ripstars or giants knuckles.

[Giu]

In terms of just DPS comparison, would running two

Ripstar

Ripstar
Ring
Required Level: 60
Item Level: 60
+0.5625 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+20 Life on Melee Attack

or

Giant's Knuckle

Giant's Knuckle
Ring
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
20% Attack Speed
Adds 10-15 Damage
(5 to 10)% Life stolen per Hit
5% Deadly Strike
+25 Life Regenerated per Second
Physical Resist 5%

be better on a pounce Spearzon? I'm just using it to farm Fauz and don't really need the physical resistance that much with the high defense on a Spearzon. Just want to clear it as fast as possible.

I easily hit my attackspeed breakpoints using Takedown, so I don't really need the IAS from giant's knuckles. So I'm not sure if the 10% deadly strike on Giant's knuckles is sufficient to make up for the massive raw damage boost from Ripstars at high levels.
I'm running a

Serenthia's Scorn

Serenthia's Scorn
Maiden Pike (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (124 - 167) to (224 - 302)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 350
Required Dexterity: 590
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Amazing Grace
Gematria
(Bonus for each Socketed Great/Elemental Rune)
+1 to All Skills
+2.5% Physical Resist
+30 Life After Each Kill
-10% to Enemy Poison Resistance
1% Chance to cast level 50 Rotting Flesh on Striking
+1000 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(100 to 170)% Enhanced Damage
+(1000 to 2000) Defense
+(50 to 100) to all Attributes
+(400 to 750) to Life
Socketed (6)

as my weapon if that factors into the equation somehow.

Are there any non-UMO that make the extra MO space on Ripstars an added advantage?

Can just run

Xorine's Ring

Xorine's Ring
Ring
Required Level: 80
Item Level: 80
+1 Projectile to Punisher
10% Chance to cast level 19 Punishers on Kill
(51 to 100)% Bonus to Attack Rating
-(3 to 5)% to Enemy Poison Resistance

or a rare with mf too, since most of the damage comes from poison.

How would the 25-75 poison damage over 1 sec interact with curare's 2 sec duration?
Would the punishers do significant poison damage?

Thought to utilize the massive EWD bonus from lionheart by using rings with raw damage on them. I compared the extra damage from +1 skills which gave 400 more poison damage over 2s, and thought +1 skills didn't quite compare to ripstars or giants knuckles.

Damage added, duration averaged.
Punishers do big poison damage, since you have cap pierce even better.
Yea, ripstar/gk gives more raw damage, xorine is nice since it gives you another good damage proc, and rare gives you more mf if damage is already sufficient, if you're having harpylisks staying alive go with ripstar.

[patrick_pkl]

Damage added, duration averaged.
Punishers do big poison damage, since you have cap pierce even better.
Yea, ripstar/gk gives more raw damage, xorine is nice since it gives you another good damage proc, and rare gives you more mf if damage is already sufficient, if you're having harpylisks staying alive go with ripstar.

Thanks, I'll try out Xorine and compare it to ripstar.
Would you use 2 Xorines to increase the proc rate?

When you say duration is averaged, does that improve the DPS? Or maintains the dps but shortens the overall duration?

e.g. 1000 dmg over 2s combined with 2 dmg over 1s = 1002dmg over 1.5s? Meaning it actually improves dps to 668/s from 500/s?

Or 1000 dmg over 2s combined with 2 dmg over 1s = 502 over 1.5s?

What happens when u have 2 Xorines, does that change the overall poison duration to (2 + 1 + 1)/ 3 = 1.33? Or does it stay at 1.5s?

Sorry for these mechanics questions!

[Giu]

Damage added, duration averaged.
Punishers do big poison damage, since you have cap pierce even better.
Yea, ripstar/gk gives more raw damage, xorine is nice since it gives you another good damage proc, and rare gives you more mf if damage is already sufficient, if you're having harpylisks staying alive go with ripstar.

Thanks, I'll try out Xorine and compare it to ripstar.
Would you use 2 Xorines to increase the proc rate?

When you say duration is averaged, does that improve the DPS? Or maintains the dps but shortens the overall duration?

e.g. 1000 dmg over 2s combined with 2 dmg over 1s = 1002dmg over 1.5s? Meaning it actually improves dps to 668/s from 500/s?

Or 1000 dmg over 2s combined with 2 dmg over 1s = 502 over 1.5s?

What happens when u have 2 Xorines, does that change the overall poison duration to (2 + 1 + 1)/ 3 = 1.33? Or does it stay at 1.5s?

Sorry for these mechanics questions!

Depends on how you're doing tbh, more procs always fun.
this: 1000 dmg over 2s combined with 2 dmg over 1s = 1002dmg over 1.5s
And yea 1.33, rounded down iirc.
So, increases total damage and dps in this example.

[Istaryu]

In terms of just DPS comparison, would running two

Ripstar

Ripstar
Ring
Required Level: 60
Item Level: 60
+0.5625 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+20 Life on Melee Attack

or

Giant's Knuckle

Giant's Knuckle
Ring
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
20% Attack Speed
Adds 10-15 Damage
(5 to 10)% Life stolen per Hit
5% Deadly Strike
+25 Life Regenerated per Second
Physical Resist 5%

be better on a pounce Spearzon? I'm just using it to farm Fauz and don't really need the physical resistance that much with the high defense on a Spearzon. Just want to clear it as fast as possible.

I easily hit my attackspeed breakpoints using Takedown, so I don't really need the IAS from giant's knuckles. So I'm not sure if the 10% deadly strike on Giant's knuckles is sufficient to make up for the massive raw damage boost from Ripstars at high levels.
I'm running a

Serenthia's Scorn

Serenthia's Scorn
Maiden Pike (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (124 - 167) to (224 - 302)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 350
Required Dexterity: 590
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Amazing Grace
Gematria
(Bonus for each Socketed Great/Elemental Rune)
+1 to All Skills
+2.5% Physical Resist
+30 Life After Each Kill
-10% to Enemy Poison Resistance
1% Chance to cast level 50 Rotting Flesh on Striking
+1000 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(100 to 170)% Enhanced Damage
+(1000 to 2000) Defense
+(50 to 100) to all Attributes
+(400 to 750) to Life
Socketed (6)

as my weapon if that factors into the equation somehow.

Are there any non-UMO that make the extra MO space on Ripstars an added advantage?

Can just run

Xorine's Ring

Xorine's Ring
Ring
Required Level: 80
Item Level: 80
+1 Projectile to Punisher
10% Chance to cast level 19 Punishers on Kill
(51 to 100)% Bonus to Attack Rating
-(3 to 5)% to Enemy Poison Resistance

or a rare with mf too, since most of the damage comes from poison.

How would the 25-75 poison damage over 1 sec interact with curare's 2 sec duration?
Would the punishers do significant poison damage?

Thought to utilize the massive EWD bonus from lionheart by using rings with raw damage on them. I compared the extra damage from +1 skills which gave 400 more poison damage over 2s, and thought +1 skills didn't quite compare to ripstars or giants knuckles.

Damage added, duration averaged.
Punishers do big poison damage, since you have cap pierce even better.
Yea, ripstar/gk gives more raw damage, xorine is nice since it gives you another good damage proc, and rare gives you more mf if damage is already sufficient, if you're having harpylisks staying alive go with ripstar.

It is NOT damage added, it is DPS added. And duration averaged.

e.g. 1000 dmg over 2s combined with 2 dmg over 1s = 1002dmg over 1.5s? Meaning it actually improves dps to 668/s from 500/s?

1000 dmg over 2s is 500 dps, 2 dmg over 1s is 2 dps, so you end up with 502 dps for 1.5s, or 502*1.5 = 753 over 1.5s as the game would say.

[Giu]

In terms of just DPS comparison, would running two

Ripstar

Ripstar
Ring
Required Level: 60
Item Level: 60
+0.5625 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+20 Life on Melee Attack

or

Giant's Knuckle

Giant's Knuckle
Ring
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
20% Attack Speed
Adds 10-15 Damage
(5 to 10)% Life stolen per Hit
5% Deadly Strike
+25 Life Regenerated per Second
Physical Resist 5%

be better on a pounce Spearzon? I'm just using it to farm Fauz and don't really need the physical resistance that much with the high defense on a Spearzon. Just want to clear it as fast as possible.

I easily hit my attackspeed breakpoints using Takedown, so I don't really need the IAS from giant's knuckles. So I'm not sure if the 10% deadly strike on Giant's knuckles is sufficient to make up for the massive raw damage boost from Ripstars at high levels.
I'm running a

Serenthia's Scorn

Serenthia's Scorn
Maiden Pike (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (124 - 167) to (224 - 302)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 350
Required Dexterity: 590
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Amazing Grace
Gematria
(Bonus for each Socketed Great/Elemental Rune)
+1 to All Skills
+2.5% Physical Resist
+30 Life After Each Kill
-10% to Enemy Poison Resistance
1% Chance to cast level 50 Rotting Flesh on Striking
+1000 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(100 to 170)% Enhanced Damage
+(1000 to 2000) Defense
+(50 to 100) to all Attributes
+(400 to 750) to Life
Socketed (6)

as my weapon if that factors into the equation somehow.

Are there any non-UMO that make the extra MO space on Ripstars an added advantage?

Can just run

Xorine's Ring

Xorine's Ring
Ring
Required Level: 80
Item Level: 80
+1 Projectile to Punisher
10% Chance to cast level 19 Punishers on Kill
(51 to 100)% Bonus to Attack Rating
-(3 to 5)% to Enemy Poison Resistance

or a rare with mf too, since most of the damage comes from poison.

How would the 25-75 poison damage over 1 sec interact with curare's 2 sec duration?
Would the punishers do significant poison damage?

Thought to utilize the massive EWD bonus from lionheart by using rings with raw damage on them. I compared the extra damage from +1 skills which gave 400 more poison damage over 2s, and thought +1 skills didn't quite compare to ripstars or giants knuckles.

Damage added, duration averaged.
Punishers do big poison damage, since you have cap pierce even better.
Yea, ripstar/gk gives more raw damage, xorine is nice since it gives you another good damage proc, and rare gives you more mf if damage is already sufficient, if you're having harpylisks staying alive go with ripstar.

It is NOT damage added, it is DPS added. And duration averaged.

e.g. 1000 dmg over 2s combined with 2 dmg over 1s = 1002dmg over 1.5s? Meaning it actually improves dps to 668/s from 500/s?

1000 dmg over 2s is 500 dps, 2 dmg over 1s is 2 dps, so you end up with 502 dps for 1.5s, or 502*1.5 = 753 over 1.5s as the game would say.

TIL

[Scalewinged]

PS: Also punishers are pure trash now.. at least Xorine ones can't kill even a1 hell monsters and they barely scratch anything in ubers (even at max poison pierce)

[patrick_pkl]

Thanks for the mechanics info. Guess I might give Xorine a skip since it ends up reducing my poison duration.

With that being said, ripstar vs knuckles? Coin flip?

[Diaco]

In terms of just DPS comparison, would running two

Ripstar

Ripstar
Ring
Required Level: 60
Item Level: 60
+0.5625 to Maximum Damage (Based on Character Level)
+20 Life on Melee Attack

or

Giant's Knuckle

Giant's Knuckle
Ring
Required Level: 100
Item Level: 120
20% Attack Speed
Adds 10-15 Damage
(5 to 10)% Life stolen per Hit
5% Deadly Strike
+25 Life Regenerated per Second
Physical Resist 5%

be better on a pounce Spearzon? I'm just using it to farm Fauz and don't really need the physical resistance that much with the high defense on a Spearzon. Just want to clear it as fast as possible.

I easily hit my attackspeed breakpoints using Takedown, so I don't really need the IAS from giant's knuckles. So I'm not sure if the 10% deadly strike on Giant's knuckles is sufficient to make up for the massive raw damage boost from Ripstars at high levels.
I'm running a

Serenthia's Scorn

Serenthia's Scorn
Maiden Pike (Sacred)
Two-Hand Damage: (124 - 167) to (224 - 302)
(Amazon Only)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 350
Required Dexterity: 590
Item Level: 105
Dexterity Damage Bonus: (0.15 per Dexterity)%
Amazing Grace
Gematria
(Bonus for each Socketed Great/Elemental Rune)
+1 to All Skills
+2.5% Physical Resist
+30 Life After Each Kill
-10% to Enemy Poison Resistance
1% Chance to cast level 50 Rotting Flesh on Striking
+1000 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
+(100 to 170)% Enhanced Damage
+(1000 to 2000) Defense
+(50 to 100) to all Attributes
+(400 to 750) to Life
Socketed (6)

as my weapon if that factors into the equation somehow.

Are there any non-UMO that make the extra MO space on Ripstars an added advantage?

If you are using serenthia's, the fastest clearing build is full poison. Use max curare,

Astrogha's Moon

Astrogha's Moon
(Wyrd Set)

Darkling
Viper Skin
Angel of Death

Set Bonus with 2 or more set items:
Maximum Poison Resist +2%
Poison Resist +75%

Set Bonus with complete set:
-25% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+23 to Amatoxin
Slow Target 5%

,

Scales of the Drake

Scales of the Drake
Ring Mail (Sacred)
Defense: (5239 - 5921) to (5764 - 6514)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 550
Item Level: 120
+(1 to 2) to All Skills
30% Cast Speed
+(25 to 38)% to Poison Spell Damage
-35% to Enemy Poison Resistance
+(14 to 18) to Lorenado
+(115 to 143)% Enhanced Defense
+300 to Life
Maximum Poison Resist +5%
Physical Resist (5 to 10)%
Socketed (6)

or

Scales of the Serpent

Scales of the Serpent
Gothic Plate (Sacred)
Defense: (7481 - 8308) to (9074 - 10078)
Required Level: 100
Required Strength: 675
Item Level: 105
15% Chance to cast level 40 Arachnomancy on Melee Attack
4% Chance to cast level 12 Time Strike on Striking
(31 to 40)% Hit Recovery
+90% Damage to Undead
Adds 200-300 Poison Damage over 2 seconds
-35% to Enemy Poison Resistance
5% Chance of Crushing Blow
Weapon Physical Damage +(25 to 30)%
+(144 to 171)% Enhanced Defense
+100 to Strength
+50 Life on Melee Attack
Socketed (6)

and aim for 135 poison pierce.

Thanks, I've hit -140 poison pierce from the rest of my equips. So I'm just wondering about how to optimize my dps further on my rings. Thought a mix of some physical dmg to help with poison absorbs would be helpful (vs maybe getting +1 skills for curare with ring of the five). What would u recommend in terms of rings?

Besides the pierce, you want astrogha's set for Amatoxin, which adds tons of poison dmg to weapon